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hopeless
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Microdosing with Amazonian cubensis for anxiety issues, but not much success so far...
#23250364 - 05/20/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have been suffering from social anxiety, GAD, depression and panic attacks for many years. I have tried about 50 different pharmaceuticals without any success. So far, I have tried microdosing with Amazonian cubensis for 3 times:
The first time i tried 0.2 and it was very intense and I felt very strange and very uncomfortable (I probably accidentally tripped a little ). It also gave me more anxiety and finally i felt depressed (probably more than usual)... I just wished it would all end soon and I would be in my normal state again. I was also very dizzy, my head was spinning and almost threw up twice.
The second time (this week) I tried 0.1 mg and even though it was a lot less intense, I still felt quite unpleasant, strange and not only physically. I felt dizzy with my eyes kind of blurred. After few hours i felt irritated, angered (without the reason), maybe also kind of overstimulated but in a negative way (paradoxically I wasnt able to focus on task). I definitely wasnt very productive that time, for example I had problems doing work in Excel and i needed to do checks over and over again. It definitely wasnt pleasure, or some kind of natural state, wellbeing in my case. I also needed to take benzos to calm down a bit.
For the third time, I took 0.1 again and it was similar to the previous experience, except for i was less irritable but still enough mentally uncomfortable... when i microdose i have a feeling like I am detached from reality, like I am living in a bubble or something (it’s kind of strange and unnatural feeling). I also feel like it is a lot harder to focus, probably because of rapid movement of my eyes. I also had some scary feelings and slight panic attacs... my mood also swings.
I would like to ask you, could there be a possibility that with a time my body will adjust to mushrooms ? Or could there be a chance that after some time on this regime (microdosing every 4th day) i recive some kind of antidepressat effects, anxiety reduction (even though i would still feel unpleasant on a microdosing day) ? Is there a theory that with a time the effects will accumulate (similary to iboga microdosing) ?
Thanks!
Edited by hopeless (05/20/16 02:59 PM)
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filthyknees
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Re: Microdosing with Amazonian cubensis for anxiety issues, but not much success so far... [Re: hopeless]
#23250577 - 05/20/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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What is your experience with higher doses like?
.2g would not be described by me as being close to 'very intense' so I am asking in hopes of giving a better response
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Re: Microdosing with Amazonian cubensis for anxiety issues, but not much success so far... [Re: hopeless]
#23251090 - 05/20/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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What medications are you on, if you don't mind my asking?
Microdosing can take weeks and people do it wrong (e.g., tripping all the time and dosing). Your tolerance will build quick so these momentary mini trips will stop but you'll notice a cognitive shift.
You might even be better off trying GABA. Local health food store.
And hang in there kid, it ain't an easy life, but it's manageable and gets easier as you get older and more life experiences. Power through it. You got this. Hanging in there and fighting the good fight is a good way to go about it.
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Re: Microdosing with Amazonian cubensis for anxiety issues, but not much success so far... [Re: Adden]
#23251131 - 05/20/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Have you tried higher doses and how did those go? If not, I don't recommend microdosing until you have experiences with higher doses.
Your reactions sound like a normal response to micodosing for someone not experienced with psychedelics. The reasons you react this way is because your sensing danger, youre sensing that a bit more of this psilocybin thing and you could really lose control. And so you're resisting that.
WHat you need to do is start with higher doses you can see what happens when the mushroom takes over and you cant resist. Otherwise its like hanging out on the edge of a swimming pool, going down on the first step, but being afraid to go any further. Without a higher dose, you wont be able to see the wondrous nature of swimming. Once you see how fun swimming can be, you will have incentive to face the fear. Low doses just make you feel on edge because you dont know whats on the other side.
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Edited by Peyote Road (05/20/16 06:20 PM)
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Re: Microdosing with Amazonian cubensis for anxiety issues, but not much success so far... [Re: Peyote Road]
#23251725 - 05/20/16 08:48 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Do you have any history of traumatic experiences?
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Re: Microdosing with Amazonian cubensis for anxiety issues, but not much success so far... [Re: Hygrocybe]
#23251770 - 05/20/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you can feel the microdose you're taking too much. Also, if you've been dealing with anxiety for years and have benzo's on hand, I assume you have a prescription. Perhaps it's time to let go of pharmaceuticals and learn how to breathe.
Microdosing can work wonders. I dosed .1 - .3 depending on the strength for a month. It has worked wonders. As others have suggested, a larger dose can be incredibly beneficial, especially for someone who is working out a lot of issues.
Treat the mushrooms with respect and you will be greatly rewarded. I wish you well. Safe travels.
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Re: Microdosing with Amazonian cubensis for anxiety issues, but not much success so far... [Re: hopeless]
#23252027 - 05/20/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shrooms is cool but it won't help your anxiety I say that because i've already tried.
Try not to rely so much on drugs, they are just tools, most of the change depends on you, you will only change if get out your confort zone and fight whats causing your social fears.
Edited by Aureus (05/20/16 10:53 PM)
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Re: Microdosing with Amazonian cubensis for anxiety issues, but not much success so far... [Re: Adden]
#23252551 - 05/21/16 02:54 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Dys said: What medications are you on, if you don't mind my asking?
I do not take anything except for BZDs but i didn’t take benzos prior to microdosing. Recently I got prescribed Tianeptine (for the second time), but I have not started taking it yet.
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Re: Microdosing with Amazonian cubensis for anxiety issues, but not much success so far... [Re: Peyote Road]
#23252565 - 05/21/16 03:00 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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No, I have never tried trip on shrooms, and actually this is my first time with shrooms while I microdosing. I have only tried iboga flood dose once about a year ago. Unfortunately I didnt get much success , I was more conscious and felt joy for a few weeks or so but these positive feeling later gradually fade out.... Maybe I didn’t take enough iboga that time, I don’t know. It was just me and a sitter, no clinical setting.
I got these cubensis from a reliable vendor, he also sent this guide, as a recommendation: 0.7 – 1.5g – Mild introduction to shrooms 1 - 2g – Inexperienced travelers 2 - 3g – Average dose 3 - 5g + - Hardcore mode –try it at your own risk!
If i decide to go for trip, which specific dose would you recommend me to do ?
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Re: Microdosing with Amazonian cubensis for anxiety issues, but not much success so far... [Re: hopeless]
#23252570 - 05/21/16 03:01 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for your advice, I appreciate it!
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Re: Microdosing with Amazonian cubensis for anxiety issues, but not much success so far... [Re: Aureus]
#23252594 - 05/21/16 03:18 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I agree with you, but as for shrooms, you think microdosing or trip ?
My plan was, try to get mushrooms, start microdosing and wait for results. If there will be some positive changes I was also planning to start with intensive CBT training program again (I already tried CBT for last 5´-7 years with some breaks). I also want to reduce my benzos intake and maybe later I will try iboga flood dose again.
I just hoped mushrooms microdosing will help redusing my anxiety to the point where i will be able to start with CBT on a daily routine. I don’t want to start with antidepressant again, but maybe I should add Tianeptine (12.5 x 3) which isn’t SSRI and continue in microdosing every 4th day ? I am planning to try 0.05 on Monday, someone could say that it is a placebo dose, but I am probably very sensitive to shrooms.
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Re: Microdosing with Amazonian cubensis for anxiety issues, but not much success so far... [Re: hopeless]
#23252625 - 05/21/16 03:35 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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As for trip, are there any recommendations, or rather guide especially for people who deal with mental issues like anxiety, depression ? Some people even advise me to do not trip in no case, they say that I could end up in even worse condition than I am now.
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Re: Microdosing with Amazonian cubensis for anxiety issues, but not much success so far... [Re: hopeless]
#23253575 - 05/21/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Both
Edited by Heinrik (05/21/16 11:40 AM)
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Re: Microdosing with Amazonian cubensis for anxiety issues, but not much success so far... [Re: hopeless]
#23253623 - 05/21/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Microdosing has always made me anxious, full trips are always better if you have a good set and setting, tripping alone in nature has always been great for me.
With your anxiety problem I would be careful dealing with psychedelics though, try not to take more than the recreational dose 2 grams and you'll be fine.
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Re: Microdosing with Amazonian cubensis for anxiety issues, but not much success so far... [Re: Aureus]
#23255426 - 05/21/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Xanax & beer helps.
Everything else fails.
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