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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Mgcmush]
    #23229974 - 05/15/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

You can use the agar you have with any other tek... it's all agar.    It's not like bar agar only works with this tek and powdered agar only works with the other one. 

But, you're not going to be successfully using this tek with petris.  The small volume of the container WILL cause it to boil over and the entire inside of every plate will be covered in agar bubbles, leaking out the edges and shit.  I've yet to hear about any successful way to do that.

Pure cane sugar works fine.  Most recommend sugar in the raw if you're using any kind of solid sugar.


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Mgcmush]
    #23229980 - 05/15/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

for crystaline sugar, you want raw unrefined sugar aka turbino aka sugar in the raw

raw sugar is just that, the pure sugar seperated from plant matter
white sugar is refined to remove the molasses
brown sugar is white sugar with the molasses added back in with some other stuff

for what the mushrooms want, its best to give it to them in raw form.


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Inocuole]
    #23229991 - 05/15/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

We have tiny white sugar. would that work/ if not i can buy corn syrup tonight not a problem but will any brand of corn syrup work?
So even if i wrap it with high volume of foil and really tightly it will still boil over and leak from the sides?
So it is a must that after making PDA i put it in a glass jar the one in which jams comes with a metal lid and PC this shit out of it then pour it in glass plates while it is still hot. Would a simple glass jam bottle work?


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Mgcmush]
    #23230493 - 05/15/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I gather you're not from the States but if you are, you can use 1/2 pint widemout jars with plastic lids to do agar.
Glass jam jars work in a pinch but they're a real bitch to take samples from due to their depth.

There's a jam jar that's awesome for pf tek but I used it for brf paste. It's a French brand that's sold all over the world and it's called "Bonna Maman". Punch 4 holes with a nail and cover them with micropore tape to do agar, you don't need to leave the lid cracked to sterilize it, the 4 holes are gonna be enough.


But if you can't get glad mini rounds, you can search for little snap-on pp5 containers where you live. If you find some, before you use them fill them with water and give them a good shake upside-down to see if the seal is up to par and doesn't leak a single drop of water.
I could find these in my town and they work great.


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Josex]
    #23230803 - 05/15/16 05:20 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Why can't we use glass petri's? Its really annoying i got 10 for 10 bucks now what am i suppose to do with them  :stoned2:


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Mgcmush]
    #23230852 - 05/15/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Why can't we use glass petri's? Its really annoying i got 10 for 10 bucks now what am i suppose to do with them  :stoned2:




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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23230997 - 05/15/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Why can't we use glass petri's? Its really annoying i got 10 for 10 bucks now what am i suppose to do with them  :stoned2:




Pour agar.




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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Inocuole]
    #23231104 - 05/15/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

okay you guys are right :crazy: i found a small whisky bottle for sterilizing agar. Also i've just read the "karo tek" would that be sufficient(it's way easier) or should I do this one? :tongue:


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Mgcmush]
    #23231302 - 05/15/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe just try this recipe first. Then start experimenting. IIRC the Karo tek is for some kind of LC. But you should start with agar first.


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Inocuole] * 1
    #23231454 - 05/15/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Why can't we use glass petri's? Its really annoying i got 10 for 10 bucks now what am i suppose to do with them  :stoned2:




Pour agar.




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Still asking "why" after it's been explained.  Just do it if you don't want to take my word for it..




I successfully did no-pour agar with glas petri's by wrapping them entirely in tinfoil.

It's a huge waste of  foil if you ask me but it can be done.

As said, it's way easier to just sterilize them in a pressure cooker and then bring them to the sterile work area to cool down, then pour them with pressure cooked agar.

I bought a 1 litre sterile-media-flask for all my pour work.


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #23232708 - 05/16/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

See i knew that if you wrap them in so much foil they would work(infact add a piece of wrap beneath foil as well). Its not the best option but yeah it works. i'll be trying both methods pour and no pour method. Thanks everyone guys and thank u for being patient with me :thanx:


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Mgcmush]
    #23233779 - 05/16/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I would honestly never consider wrapping something 10x in foil as a reasonable solution to a problem but.. whatever floats your boat.  I'll just be doing stuff correctly.


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Inocuole]
    #23233832 - 05/16/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Well if it wasn't for you i'd been messing around with glass petri and no pour and would've probably ended being disappointed without having proper knowledge, I always look on the bright side i.e i know the problems with glass petris and how to work around them and in the process i also came to know the simple "karo tek" not just that also i became confident in doing pour because that is the way to go. Hopefully i'll be doing all this tomorrow because i just can't seem to find karo or any corn syrup i'll hopefully be traveling city to find it.


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Mgcmush]
    #23233878 - 05/16/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

If you don't live in the States or Canada I think you're not going to find karo aka corn syrup anywhere, unless you buy it off the internet or in a specialized confectionary shop. Same goes with the fake honey that's good for this tek (don't use natural honey ever).

But you can use sugar in the raw, which is pure unadulterated cane sugar. You can find that easily in a health food store. 1% SITR is all you need (ideally, less than a gram for every 100 ml of water).


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Josex]
    #23234050 - 05/16/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

yup you're right about that, by raw sugar do you mean the white one? plane old crystal white sugar? like the one below

http://finance.kalpoint.com/images/stories/duty_sugar_india.jpg


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Mgcmush]
    #23234079 - 05/16/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

What's this karo tek you keep mentioning? That name brings up LCs only for me. Agar typically needs another, more complex sugar too. Like potato starch or something.


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Josex]
    #23234096 - 05/16/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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yup you're right about that, by raw sugar do you mean the white one? plane old crystal white sugar? like the one below

http://finance.kalpoint.com/images/stories/duty_sugar_india.jpg




Nope. What I mean is exactly what I said :lol:
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But you can use sugar in the raw, which is pure unadulterated cane sugar. You can find that easily in a health food store.




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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Josex]
    #23234363 - 05/16/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Well good news is i just found reliable sources from where i can order some karo so yipeee :smile:


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    #23235515 - 05/16/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23236605 - 05/17/16 06:07 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

i use agave in my PDA with great success


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