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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: inski]
    #23228742 - 05/15/16 04:07 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I took this photo this evening. What they grow in is old grey looking pine chips. There is good soil/mud underneath and no clay. There are still quite a lot around.


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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: Bagels]
    #23228960 - 05/15/16 06:43 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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I took this photo this evening. What they grow in is old grey looking pine chips. There is good soil/mud underneath and no clay. There are still quite a lot around.






Fuck, those things really are ridiculously tiny!


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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: Dunedinite]
    #23229456 - 05/15/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Great thread - History in the making, boys.


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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: HamiltonJoe]
    #23230012 - 05/15/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I had a sort through what I collected yesterday and I saw that there were some with a  creamy white cap and gills. Please could you tell me what you think about these.

I do see that there are a few there that I would say are not the Psilocybe sp.




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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: Bagels]
    #23230606 - 05/15/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Those first three pictures look like Mycena sp. to me.


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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: Dunedinite]
    #23231700 - 05/15/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Hold up, is Bagels finding an un-described psilocybe species or P. makarorae?

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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: Hashed]
    #23231932 - 05/15/16 11:25 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Also In the photo at the bottom I see that there is at least one other that could be a Mycena. The next collection I will do in the morning so I can see them better.

@Dunedinite there are P. subaeruginosa about 20 metres away. Or rather there were :wink:

We have had some rain :smile:

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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: Bagels]
    #23231934 - 05/15/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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Hold up, is Bagels finding an un-described psilocybe species or P. makarorae?



It's not P. makarorae.


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I had a sort through what I collected yesterday and I saw that there were some with a  creamy white cap and gills. Please could you tell me what you think about these.

I do see that there are a few there that I would say are not the Psilocybe sp.







The ones with white gills are a Mycena species close to if not M. amicta.
There's one larger one there with a darker pileus and a dark brown to  almost black stipe, it is a different Mycena species.


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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: inski]
    #23231949 - 05/15/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you inski.

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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: inski]
    #23231954 - 05/15/16 11:40 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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Hashed said:
Hold up, is Bagels finding an un-described psilocybe species or P. makarorae?



It's not P. makarorae.


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I had a sort through what I collected yesterday and I saw that there were some with a  creamy white cap and gills. Please could you tell me what you think about these.

I do see that there are a few there that I would say are not the Psilocybe sp.







The ones with white gills are a Mycena species close to if not M. amicta.
There's one larger one there with a darker pileus and a dark brown to  almost black stipe, it is a different Mycena species.




Yuss, I am getting better at ID'ing mushrooms already, and I've only been at it for a few weeks haha...


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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: Dunedinite]
    #23231958 - 05/15/16 11:43 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Do you know what un-described species it is inski?

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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: Bagels]
    #23231962 - 05/15/16 11:45 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

What does un-described mean?

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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: Bagels]
    #23231974 - 05/15/16 11:55 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

It means a mycologist has not entered a latin (scientific) name for it yet.
It has no name yet...

It is a species with no official name yet, un-described to science.

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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: Hashed]
    #23232074 - 05/16/16 12:49 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Ok, so this might be a stupid question, but why is this species still undescribed? Given the fact inskii is able to cultivate them, is it simply because nobody's got around to it yet? Are microscopy and DNA sequencing the only things necessary before a proper description?


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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: Matai]
    #23232123 - 05/16/16 01:05 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Still undescribed because no one has decided to describe it.

It needs a macroscopic and microscopic description and DNA analysis.

You can help with the macroscopic description - when you find an unusually large one, measure it we we can tell what the largest size cap / stem can be.  Also record flavor and texture and odor.

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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: Bagels]
    #23232190 - 05/16/16 01:26 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

So does that mean it has a code name?

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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: Bagels]
    #23232210 - 05/16/16 01:33 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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So does that mean it has a code name?




P. definitelynotamakarorae


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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: Dunedinite]
    #23232293 - 05/16/16 02:15 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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So does that mean it has a code name?




P. definitelynotamakarorae




Very funny :lol::lol::lol:

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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: Bagels]
    #23232409 - 05/16/16 03:54 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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So does that mean it has a code name?





I don't think it does.  Perhaps you or Inski can create one.

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Re: ID Request for a small mushroom that looks like a Psilocybe sp. NZ [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #23232553 - 05/16/16 05:43 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

P. inskageli


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