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Inocuole
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: GreenRabbit]
#23209991 - 05/10/16 11:20 AM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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I never eat solid mushrooms anymore, I always make tea, and I never eat the solid bits. I routinely get pretty strong CEVs and OEVs on like 1 gram worth of tea so... If there's more magic packed in there, I don't even fuckin want it.
If tea is basically straight psilocin then why does freezing tea ice cubes work so well? Psilocin is not supposed to be the one that stores well long term, in any conditions really, especially not after 2 rounds of heat and being frozen in a polar solvent(granted there should be no cell walls to fuck up here). I boil my tea, and it hits like a train, so, something's not right here. You can't have acids extracting/converting to psilocin, AND heat destroying psilocin at the same time, because then the shit I do all the time would never work.
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GreenRabbit
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Inocuole]
#23210009 - 05/10/16 11:24 AM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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Psilocin has a melting point of 173 C so I doubt that the heat has any detrimental effects whatsoever.
Acids extract psilocin... and that's pretty much it...
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Inocuole
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: GreenRabbit]
#23210028 - 05/10/16 11:29 AM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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I can agree with all of that. But I was responding to this.
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the_r3dz said: The hot water extraction is extracting psilocybin, the psilocin is destroyed in the drying or boiling process.
Again, no science, just what I've read.
However, I'm pretty positive that acids extract both psilocybin and psilocin, and if they also convert one into the other, then it's surely a gradual process and probably doesn't ever complete in the time before it's consumed. I guess boiling water might too, but if anything I just consider it a catalyst for the acid extraction.
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YaMoonSun
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: the_r3dz]
#23210037 - 05/10/16 11:31 AM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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SloppyJoseph said: Dude I would rather eat 5 grams of dried than 15 grams of fresh by chomping... I really have this thing with the fresh fruit that makes me want to fucking gag...
I think I will make the jello though. I might lemon tek it before I dump it in the boiling water, like I do with tea. And then mix with lime jello.
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YaMoonSun said:



Nice, I like the verm patch job, too. 
Yeah I've done the lemon tek before jello as well, I add don't bother boiling it at that point though, I just do the full lemon tek (20 mins) and then dump that into the mix after the jello powder, once it's cooled down a bit,
the lemon tek converts the psilocybin into psilocin which is a lot more unstable.
Awesome beast YaMoon!
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SloppyJoseph
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: GreenRabbit]
#23210046 - 05/10/16 11:33 AM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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175 grams.... So probably not eating all that lol. Someday.
Chocolates work but I'm trying to find a method that will give least amount of stomache discomfort (not for me)
So how long does jello stay? Would the gelatin being in the fridge help preserve psilowhatever for a couple weeks in the fridge? I'll prob dry enough for a quarter and make jello from the rest though regardless.
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GreenRabbit
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Inocuole]
#23210048 - 05/10/16 11:33 AM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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Inocuole said: I can agree with all of that. But I was responding to this.
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the_r3dz said: The hot water extraction is extracting psilocybin, the psilocin is destroyed in the drying or boiling process.
Again, no science, just what I've read.
However, I'm pretty positive that acids extract both psilocybin and psilocin, and if they also convert one into the other, then it's sure a gradual process and probably doesn't ever complete in the time before it's consumed. I guess boiling water might too, but if anything I just consider it a catalyst for the acid extraction.
Agreed, that's why I don't like extraction teks; something is bound to be left behind. I completely disagree with the idea that heat breaks down actives.
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mupetmower
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: GreenRabbit]
#23210050 - 05/10/16 11:34 AM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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that why i just eat it all, no matter dry or wet, lemon or nothing.
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Inocuole
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: mupetmower]
#23210067 - 05/10/16 11:39 AM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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If I only have to give up 5-10% of the actives to avoid all that chitin that's fine with me.. Y'all desperate.
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mupetmower
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Inocuole]
#23210081 - 05/10/16 11:43 AM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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it never really bothers my stomach or anything guess im just lucky
even if its 8g dry.. or 70-90g wet.. stomach is fine. almost always.
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Edited by mupetmower (05/10/16 11:43 AM)
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dankington
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Inocuole]
#23210085 - 05/10/16 11:43 AM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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Inocuole said: If I only have to give up 5-10% of the actives to avoid all that chitin that's fine with me.. Y'all desperate.
That's some true shit. You can just add more mushrooms.
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SloppyJoseph
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23210204 - 05/10/16 12:14 PM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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SloppyJoseph said:

175 grams.... So probably not eating all that lol. Someday.
Chocolates work but I'm trying to find a method that will give least amount of stomache discomfort (not for me)
So how long does jello stay? Would the gelatin being in the fridge help preserve psilowhatever for a couple weeks in the fridge? I'll prob dry enough for a quarter and make jello from the rest though regardless.
Made 95 grams of jello with those 2 big guys. probably gonna do 3/4 of that as a big dose, then save the 1/4 for one of my chill nights.
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tombosley8
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23210238 - 05/10/16 12:22 PM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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what's the best tea TEK?
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SloppyJoseph
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: tombosley8]
#23210245 - 05/10/16 12:25 PM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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ErikXL45
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: mushpunx]
#23210528 - 05/10/16 01:50 PM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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Pretty small first fruits except for the bad boy in the pic. 416g wet. 24.1g wet of the one in the pic. KSSS.
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PinPornProducer
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: ErikXL45]
#23210567 - 05/10/16 02:08 PM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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have fun
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Mr.PhilCybin
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Pan growers -
I received this print as a pan cambo, but these pins look an awful like cube pins to me, and I'm thinking they sent me a cambodian cube print. -__-
what do you think?
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GreenRabbit
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#23210650 - 05/10/16 02:41 PM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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Mr.PhilCybin said: Pan growers -
I received this print as a pan cambo, but these pins look an awful like cube pins to me, and I'm thinking they sent me a cambodian cube print. -__-
what do you think?

Probably what happened.. Definitely look like cubes.
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SloppyJoseph
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#23210658 - 05/10/16 02:44 PM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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Mr.PhilCybin said: Pan growers -
I received this print as a pan cambo, but these pins look an awful like cube pins to me, and I'm thinking they sent me a cambodian cube print. -__-
what do you think?

>_>
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justdopey365
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23210690 - 05/10/16 02:59 PM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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Hello all! After 9 days I finally saw some actions in rye berry jars. Really excited for it to finish colonizing.
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Teemo 6T3
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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#23210724 - 05/10/16 03:14 PM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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Mr.PhilCybin said: Pan growers -
I received this print as a pan cambo, but these pins look an awful like cube pins to me, and I'm thinking they sent me a cambodian cube print. -__-
what do you think?

Yup cubes... i'm so sad now, i was so pumped up to see your grow man 
Man it's been a while since Mr. fox posted anything, hopefully nothing bad happened to him, heard they had a flood and shit from him and that was like a month ago :S
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