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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: SoGoodToBeOutCage9]
    #23205656 - 05/09/16 11:41 AM (8 years, 10 days ago)

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Wonder if this has happen to many people. Place I dump all my left over stuff from cub. This come up outdoor in Illinois.  Pretty cool didn't think they grow outdoor there?




Happens to like 90% of people who dump substrate outside.  If it's 60-80F outside there I don't see why they wouldn't grow..


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: SoGoodToBeOutCage9]
    #23205657 - 05/09/16 11:41 AM (8 years, 10 days ago)

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Wonder if this has happen to many people. Place I dump all my left over stuff from cub. This come up outdoor in Illinois.  Pretty cool didn't think they grow outdoor there?



not naturally, but if its warm outside and you spawn some old subs, ya you will have that :thumbup:

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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23205713 - 05/09/16 11:59 AM (8 years, 10 days ago)

meh the cake i buried(not contam or anything, just had one flush) hasnt grown anything yet. it was my preemie-cake, so that could be why. it has been buried for probably about 2 weeks now. oh well, i will be burying all of my spent cakes and sub around the same place, from now on.


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: MountainManDan]
    #23205908 - 05/09/16 12:29 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)

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Today's harvest, maybe 6-7 zips dry





Cat tails and boomers haha.  Nice harvest



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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: SloppyJoseph]
    #23205970 - 05/09/16 12:40 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)

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20%-ish though?? That growth is only on one side of the jar, and it's the best out of the 8 jars I have. I was putting that at 5-7% max. I don't *NEED* them by beginning of June, it just would have been nice. I'll probably shake a few days earlier than anticipated. I still don't see myself casing the grains before the 25th. And if I spawn to bulk, well, beginning of June is just not realistic.

It's all good, as long as my grow doesn't go south like the last few, I'll be happy. And once I get momentum going with agar etc, I'll be set :smile:




I feel ya man, it was hard to gauge I guess cause of the nature of the close up. That's the bitch with MS though, I had the same problem with my grow. It took 65 days from inoculation to harvest. But maybe if you want... you have 8 jars I don't know what your plans are with them, but if 1 finishes early, you can make a 6 qt dub tub (in my sig) with 1 qt, or if 2 finish early you can make a 20 qt mini. :shrug: Looks good though, just keep doing what you're doing.




I may do just that (use the 1st jar on its own) to make sure I have good spawn, and to practice my bulk pasteurization technique. Too paranoid to do the bucket tek right now. For the others, I was thinking 3 jars as pure cased grain, and 4 jars to bulk sub with coir/verm/gypsum. Again one simple cased grain because I am paranoid of contams from my last few grows. I want to mix it up and see what I get.

I did MS to agar Friday using EasyPlates. Hoping by this Friday to see some growth. Then I'll do some xfers and isolate. Then I will make some LI using the blender jar method.

Those are my big Summer plans anyways 
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    #23206054 - 05/09/16 01:11 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)

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Hey dude! Not a bad first thread post. Thats some really beautiful growth going on there, I love how when you use MS to inoculate it creates beautiful radial growth from a single point or 2.

I hate how long it takes though. 12 days to get there is rough. Shake that thing. Shake that thing like your life depended on it; it's time to speed things up and turn those 2 noc points into 200.




Well, I am waiting for 30% growth to do the shaking. From what I've read recently, seems a lot of people suggest 30%-50% growth before shaking. If people want to chime in on that here, I am open to suggestions.

And yes, the wait times for MS is real torture. I had my schedule set to have fruits available by beginning of June, but that is not looking likely; which is a shame because I have an event to go to that these would have been perfect for. I guess I'll stick to some MDMA for that night; no Hippie-Flipping for me :wink:




Yeah I mean, I just chimed in. I understand what you've read but sometimes it's not always so black and white, especially if you have a deadline for fruits when inoculating grains from MS.

Like I said, your growth looks healthy. The main reason people wait for 30% besides just being an ideal time to shake, is to make sure the growth looks healthy. Your 20ish% look fine, and if you are trying to speed things up, shake those thing now. Just a suggestion, after that shake I'd say another week til 90%, then one last shake and you'll be fruiting in 10 days. Idk if you need them by june 1st or 6th, but this will give you a chance of at least having pins by june.




There is more than just waiting to see the proposed health of the mycelium. Figured I would chime in in case of other readers. Especially because of MS, waiting for colonization allows time for single spores, or homokaryotic (cannot reproduce) to find another homokaryotic mycelia. Once two homokaryotic mycelia join they become dikaryotic, which is what eventually continues on to produce fruits. The hyphae or threads that you see forming is a result of this phenomenon. When you shake early, or shake throughout colonization of grain spawn the mycelium have to work to recover. I've read people saying that they expend energy during this, which can be better used forming more bonds - not sure how much if its true.
I only shake the one time, which at 20-30% you are working with enough dikaryotic mycelium that you will have plenty of new growth points. In my opinion so long as you can still shake and disperse the spawn its okay to push longer for the shake.

In the past, I would shake often throughout the growth process - even after the first initial shake. Nowadays I only shake once, 20-40 maybe even 50% depending on needs. For example, if a jar is slow I will let it sit longer before shaking.
It's been a long time since I did frequent shaking, but back then I estimated roughly a month for the process until fruiting conditions.
My current grow, I had 2 weeks to FC for some, and the rest are looking to be about 3 weeks maybe a bit less.
In my experience, I think it's better to shake as minimally as possible. Yes, shaking does distribute and cause more growth origins, but by waiting for more growth first each addition to the mass is an increase in growth speed, over all. If you wait longer to shake, you have the added benefit of both fast/strong mycelium AND many points. Shake throughout and while you're gradually dispersing it, the speed is slow due to recovery. If you had to make a decision, you could see some jars may require more shaking than others. One Jar could manage to be all over and another could just have one single growth in one spot - it's jar by jar for me. Its possible to grow from spores, and it's possible from mycelium. Either way works. I think part of the hobby is deciding which methods you like the most, because there are so many ways to do things and people have had both success and failures with all of them.


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: FalseMaria]
    #23206090 - 05/09/16 01:23 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)

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I may do just that (use the 1st jar on its own) to make sure I have good spawn, and to practice my bulk pasteurization technique. Too paranoid to do the bucket tek right now. For the others, I was thinking 3 jars as pure cased grain, and 4 jars to bulk sub with coir/verm/gypsum. Again one simple cased grain because I am paranoid of contams from my last few grows. I want to mix it up and see what I get.

I did MS to agar Friday using EasyPlates. Hoping by this Friday to see some growth. Then I'll do some xfers and isolate. Then I will make some LI using the blender jar method.

Those are my big Summer plans anyways 
:zomgzomgzomg:




Also IME, I have used both bucket tek and a variation of it. I once got a little cobweb doing bucket tek, it was straight coir no verm or anything. Luckily it didn't do major damage, I was able to contain it and it went away.

I since use the bucket tek with someone else's amendment, will have to search for the thread.(Oven Bag+Bucket Tek But basically they did bucket tek + oven bag. They then took the sub mix and closed off the bag and pasteurized it in the oven at 200 degrees. This ensures the internal temperature is kept at  atleast 170 throughout.

The fact is substrate mixing like using the bucket tek is one of the most non-sterile parts of the process - in comparison to sterile technique during inoculating and such. At this stage you have contaminant free spawn 105% colonized and that will be the greatest advantage against contaminants, is that they quickly overtake the substrate. It's pretty easy and I know I have done it without gloves, just washing hands. IF you use the oven bag method you handle the substrate even less because you just massage it and break up everything while its inside the bag. Coir is not nutritious, or barely so, and there is little that grows on it readily. Can't give you 100% facts but I know I have seen mentions that over sterilizing coir can make it less contaminant resistant. If anyone knows why this is please let me know! But I have seen it. Also only use bucket tek or variations of it when using coir/verm/gypsum. Additives like coffee and extra stuff I know require something else, not sure what because I have only done bucket tek. Like I said other than that one instance of cobweb it really does seem clean. Especially if you've used hpoo/straw before, because in comparison the difference is HUGE. Even if you're not handling the hpoo directly, like in bags, i dont know it just seems better, at least for me.


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: One Love]
    #23206147 - 05/09/16 01:46 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)

two of the biggest PE I harvested






and a side by side costa rican I harvested last night and a PE


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    #23206149 - 05/09/16 01:46 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)

:judyfacepalm:


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: One Love]
    #23206157 - 05/09/16 01:48 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)




I want to think this guy is Mexi Cube but I really dont know. Could be PESA too.

Any who its nice to be harvesting stacks of clean tubs again instead of tossing them out back. Here'shoping it lasts all summer!

Got another decent tub to harvest in a couple hours too Ill put a photo up before I do


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Jah2997]
    #23206179 - 05/09/16 01:56 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)

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two of the biggest PE I harvested






and a side by side costa rican I harvested last night and a PE




Well you showed me yours, it's only right that i whip mine out as well....



If azur hand't made me ban him, he could post his, which beats mine by 50g.....

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    #23206188 - 05/09/16 01:59 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)

Damn! I can't wait to get mushroom cultivation under my belt and start growing monsters like that. I still have yet to grow in a monotub! is tht what that was grown in?


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: One Love]
    #23206190 - 05/09/16 02:00 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)

What are you on about, OneLove?

They are monokaryotic, not homokaryotic. If they were homokaryotic they would be the genetically the same.

Bucket tek works for coir. If you have cobweb, and you followed the tek properly, it may have to do with the coir you got. The good thing about inoc's tek is that it seems to make the coir more easily digested by mycelium IMLE with it.

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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: dankington]
    #23206195 - 05/09/16 02:01 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)

You beat my PE monster by 40g. :cookiemonster:

Oh shit, Agar beat mine by like, 80 tho. :crazy:

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    #23206208 - 05/09/16 02:04 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)




Freak!!@


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    #23206215 - 05/09/16 02:08 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)

Oh Sloppppyyy where art thou?


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    #23206232 - 05/09/16 02:13 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)

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What are you on about, OneLove?

They are monokaryotic, not homokaryotic. If they were homokaryotic they would be the genetically the same.

Bucket tek works for coir. If you have cobweb, and you followed the tek properly, it may have to do with the coir you got. The good thing about inoc's tek is that it seems to make the coir more easily digested by mycelium IMLE with it.




Sorry there I go with vocabulary again W_W. I was referring to the other posts, someone had suggested to another that they keep shaking their jars. :S But they left out why people don't shake all the time.

Also, I'm not sure what caused the cobweb, it was years ago and like I said it was very minimal. Was also just mentioning it because they said they were paranoid for bucket tek. Thanks for the correction.


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    #23206236 - 05/09/16 02:16 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)

those are some ginormous mutant looking mushies. Question then, do shrooms of such large size still retain the potency of the grow? Would it at the very least, make subsequent fruits smaller (less potent too) in comparison?

But big shrooms are fun to play with. Especially PE. :teehee:


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: One Love]
    #23206239 - 05/09/16 02:16 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)

I don't think large mushrooms necessarily drain any more of anything out of the substrate than an equal weight in smaller mushrooms..


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    #23206267 - 05/09/16 02:24 PM (8 years, 10 days ago)

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I don't think large mushrooms necessarily drain any more of anything out of the substrate than an equal weight in smaller mushrooms..




Hmm, I suppose that makes sense, so long as it was equal weight. The equal weight in smaller shrooms may even seem easier because they can be easily eaten. But having large fruits does not effect things like moisture or nutrition?
When having early pins that are starting to look big wouldn't it be best to pick them? (I think I've seen that somewhere.)


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