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Bacterial spawn
    #23205509 - 05/09/16 11:07 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

So my experiences have shown me not to bother trying to use bacterial spawn since the mycelium becomes so weakened that mold sets in on the affected grains.

I'm looking for options on what to do with it though. I don't have a suitable outdoor spot so that's not really an option. Should I just case the top of the bags and fruit that way?


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Re: Bacterial spawn [Re: maddchef]
    #23205529 - 05/09/16 11:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Do you have a decent sized house plant?

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Re: Bacterial spawn [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #23205536 - 05/09/16 11:12 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Nah. It's 4qt worth of spawn anyway so it'd have to be a pretty large plant


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Re: Bacterial spawn [Re: maddchef]
    #23205541 - 05/09/16 11:14 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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maddchef said:
So my experiences have shown me not to bother trying to use bacterial spawn since the mycelium becomes so weakened that mold sets in on the affected grains.

I'm looking for options on what to do with it though. I don't have a suitable outdoor spot so that's not really an option. Should I just case the top of the bags and fruit that way?



case the tops and fruit in a mono


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Re: Bacterial spawn [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23205553 - 05/09/16 11:16 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I suppose. Just seems like a waste since the grain is 6in deep. Losing a lot of surface area.


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Re: Bacterial spawn [Re: maddchef]
    #23205566 - 05/09/16 11:19 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I suppose. Just seems like a waste since the grain is 6in deep. Losing a lot of surface area.



Why are you concerned with surface area? It doesn't really mean anything. There is no association between surface area and yield.

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Re: Bacterial spawn [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23205583 - 05/09/16 11:22 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Bacterial spawn [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23205600 - 05/09/16 11:26 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

My last tests were successful in rescuing 2 bacterial jars.


Remove with gloves, rinse thoroughly and remove uncolonized embedded grains.  Then place back in a jar with the same volume of dry verm.


This provides an aerobic non-nutritive environment.  Then it's just Myc vs Bac.  Since bacillus is typically on the surface only, the myc ball has food and mass advantage.


Let em duke it out for a couple weeks. One will come out as the winner.  Case/fruit after

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Re: Bacterial spawn [Re: maddchef]
    #23205602 - 05/09/16 11:27 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Oh noes the surface areaz.  I should've just thrown that bacterial spawn out. :sad:




Nah, it's like 100x better than getting nothing.


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Re: Bacterial spawn [Re: Inocuole]
    #23205634 - 05/09/16 11:34 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Nice! I've never fruited invitro, but I'll definitely give it a try with one of my leftover jars.
You just leave the top exposed and mist and fan, is it that simple?
Or will I have to fruit it in a SGFC/mono hybrid?

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Re: Bacterial spawn [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23205649 - 05/09/16 11:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I think I put that in a mini mono.


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Re: Bacterial spawn [Re: Inocuole]
    #23205655 - 05/09/16 11:41 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Oh noes the surface areaz.  I should've just thrown that bacterial spawn out. :sad:




Nah, it's like 100x better than getting nothing.



thanks I almost sent you a :pm: asking for you to post here. but you are on top of things, so :thumbup:

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Re: Bacterial spawn [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23205664 - 05/09/16 11:43 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I'm thinking about doing a huge round of bottle grows right now actually... I have overcolonized PE spawn that's started showing metabolites... don't wanna spawn it so I think that's where the wind is taking me.  I'd recommend it any time you have to second guess your spawn.


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Re: Bacterial spawn [Re: Inocuole]
    #23206928 - 05/09/16 05:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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So my experiences have shown me not to bother trying to use bacterial spawn since the mycelium becomes so weakened that mold sets in on the affected grains.

I'm looking for options on what to do with it though. I don't have a suitable outdoor spot so that's not really an option. Should I just case the top of the bags and fruit that way?



case the tops and fruit in a mono





Seeing this reminded me of another idea OP.

In the past when I had jars that looked like the above, I'd use a spoon to scoop out all the healthy looking myce/grain into a gallon Ziploc bag. I'd break the spawn up by massaging the bag and do a coir/verm/gypsum tub.

I'd do a really fat spawn to sub ratio, something like 1:1 or 1:2. That way it'd colonize quick & ideally fruit before the contamination set in and took over the tub. Had a pretty good succes rate, could almost always get at least one flush often times even 2 flushes before it all went to hell

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