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ZeeKay
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Popping my Cultivation Cherry
#23126199 - 04/17/16 02:24 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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So this is me documenting my first grow 
I bought my first spore print over a year ago, after staying up all night procrastinating instead of working on assignments for university. I couldn't get a syringe as I live overseas from any trustworthy looking sources and I figured it would be fun to do from scratch. Though I did come across the problem where I lived in a house which wasn't substance-friendly, so I respected my housemates and put my hobby on hold.
However I moved into a new house last month, and all my housemates are suuuper chill. My first thought turned to growing, and I buckled down and did my research. I've bought everything I need except a pressure cooker at this stage, but my first research pointed me towards making BRF cakes anyway which can be steamed in pots. I made some B+ syringes and nocced them up. A few weeks later, they're all ready to go.

Only one jar really didn't make it (not sure if it was too moist but it was all light brown and slimy)
Anyway I wanted to do a bulk grow, as I hear making cakes is almost not worth the effort for the yield from a couple of people. But I didn't have much spawn so I ended up using pasty's Mini Mono tek, with damion's elementary coir bulk method

The scary part is waiting now and hoping no contams get my grow before it can thrive (i like double- and triple-sprayed oust and used lysol on everything, working inside a turned off bar fridge)
Update: Colonising seems to be going well (I couldn't help myself taking a peek. Terrible, I know - let's hope it doesnt fuck up the grow)

I think I may have gone a little too light on the top layer as you can see bits growing veeeerry patchy
Also while I'm waiting for that tub to colonise I went out and got myself some rye grain and a pressure cooker to use in a second grow. Currently soaking the grain in some gypsum-infused water.

I innocced my jars and did Everything right...

Or so I thought.

shit. Not exactly sure where I went wrong but I'm guessing it was the syringe? Who knows. I might try to salvage a bit of the mycelium IF I CAN and try out an agar plate. Got petri dishes now.
Anyway, back to my other grow...
She looks nearly doooone!
Took the tape off the holes and stuffed it with polyfil and went away for the weekend.
I did buy a pet warming bed just because it's starting to get very cool at night (as low as 15 degrees C) and I didn't want them to hurt too badly. Just put it on half-warming and turn it off during the day
And now... What have we here?
Oh my. Some very sexy pins 
SOOOON
THE NIGHT BEFORE THE HARVEST
The results from my first flush ever. Not bad, not bad. Will be definitely enjoying myself after these dry. Already looking forward to trying out more teks and strains!
Edited by ZeeKay (05/08/16 08:02 PM)
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: Popping my Cultivation Cherry [Re: ZeeKay]
#23126407 - 04/17/16 05:14 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice! I do hope you used another filter and not just your verm barrier. If not the verm barrier will be full of mold spores and you will spawn them along with your cakes.
One other thing I suggest is that you make a bunch of small trays instead of a mini monotub, that way you will only have to trash a fraction of your grow in case some go bad. My main concern is that you did the syringe yourself on your first grow, if even one of your jars was fucked it will end up contaminating your whole tub. I like using 1.5l containers that I got from buying strawberries.

I still make monotubs but this is better for testing multiple cultures without expanding all that spawn. If you make enough trays to fill a monotub like I did here, it will make a great fruiting chamber.
I commend you for going to bulk on your first try, it's much better IMHO and you will be better off in the end. I hope your grow goes well, keep us updated.
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Re: Popping my Cultivation Cherry [Re: ZeeKay]
#23126412 - 04/17/16 05:16 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I recomend 70% iso for sanitization. I would ditch the lysol spray/wipes
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ZeeKay
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oh, i threw away my verm barrier when I crumbled my cakes into the bulk substrate. I figured as much, and I did put a layer on top of my substrate mix with just the coir/verm mix
I also dropped some hydrogen peroxide 3% on the verm the day before I put it into my mono. Still learning but I figure you can't be too careful, right?
Also threw away my slimy jar :P I wasn't gonna put that in there
As for the syringes, I did work in a sterile environment with brand new syringes and sterilised water so I think (hope) they should've been fine
Cheers for the feedback guys
Edited by ZeeKay (04/17/16 05:28 AM)
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Re: Popping my Cultivation Cherry [Re: ZeeKay]
#23126427 - 04/17/16 05:36 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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peroxide is for cobweb mold. Otherwise it doesnt do much else except slow myceliums growth
-------------------- Song Of Healing
Updated Pf Tek Guide
Ziran's Teks
AMU Q&A Thread
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: Popping my Cultivation Cherry [Re: Ziran]
#23126513 - 04/17/16 06:58 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Even if the verm barrier was discarded it would be next to impossible to prevent cross contamination while you were doing it.
I personally don't like verm barriers, don't get me wrong they work but so does micropore tape and tyvek, both of which are cheap, readily available and dependable. To my mind it is very easy to disturb the verm barrier while inspecting jars and contams may very easily fall through. I haven't done cakes much, just done a batch once when I first started so I probably shouldn't preach too much about them.
Hopefully it will turn out fine for you, you are bound to have a smallish bag of dried fruits if it does.
Save up some cash for a nice PC now, you will be mighty proud with it once you see it in action. Not to mention grains are much faster than cakes can ever be.
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spacechildo
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peroxide is harmful to myc but kills cob web, no point in harming your myc unless you actually have cob web. like chemo for non-cancer patients.
btw why is the tub inside a fridge? the tub wants fresh air, not to be locked inside a fridge.
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ZeeKay
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spacechildo said: peroxide is harmful to myc but kills cob web, no point in harming your myc unless you actually have cob web. like chemo for non-cancer patients.
btw why is the tub inside a fridge? the tub wants fresh air, not to be locked inside a fridge.
oops. Well, live and learn right? Maybe I was just overly cautious :P
Also I thought you were supposed to keep your tub in darkness during colonisation of the bulk substrate? Maybe I'm wrong about that
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Supalemonhaze said: Even if the verm barrier was discarded it would be next to impossible to prevent cross contamination while you were doing it.
I personally don't like verm barriers, don't get me wrong they work but so does micropore tape and tyvek, both of which are cheap, readily available and dependable. To my mind it is very easy to disturb the verm barrier while inspecting jars and contams may very easily fall through. I haven't done cakes much, just done a batch once when I first started so I probably shouldn't preach too much about them.
Hopefully it will turn out fine for you, you are bound to have a smallish bag of dried fruits if it does.
Save up some cash for a nice PC now, you will be mighty proud with it once you see it in action. Not to mention grains are much faster than cakes can ever be.
That's fair, I was just trying to follow instructions of a basic PF Tek. I actually have got some micropore tape now and ordered some rye berries for my next grow. Only got the PC to go! I'm excited to try with agar at some point as well, maybe after a proper successful grow. Like I said I've been looking forward to this for a while and done plenty of research 
I'm hoping this turns out but if not, well, learning process right? :P really hoping for at least a small batch of fruits though!
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spacechildo
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Re: Popping my Cultivation Cherry [Re: ZeeKay]
#23127737 - 04/17/16 03:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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oh its colonizing, no you dont need darkness that's old info, ambient lights are just fine then hit it with lots of bright light for fruiting!
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Inocuole
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Re: Popping my Cultivation Cherry [Re: ZeeKay]
#23127776 - 04/17/16 03:21 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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ZeeKay said:
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spacechildo said: peroxide is harmful to myc but kills cob web, no point in harming your myc unless you actually have cob web. like chemo for non-cancer patients.
btw why is the tub inside a fridge? the tub wants fresh air, not to be locked inside a fridge.
oops. Well, live and learn right? Maybe I was just overly cautious :P
Well when you're being cautious, rule 1 is to make sure the thing you're doing isn't causing more harm than good, otherwise you're being reckless and destructive, regardless of your intentions. I see it pretty much every day. Sounds like you've been reading a lot of old info if you think colonization should happen in the dark, and if that's the case, it's unlikely that's the only misconception. I would go ahead and forget what you've read so far and start over here with teks that were made in the last 5-6 years. Don't wait to make changes, failure is not a taste that inspires a second try so well.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19140341#19140341 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18430998 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11585613#11585613
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ZeeKay
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Re: Popping my Cultivation Cherry [Re: spacechildo]
#23127785 - 04/17/16 03:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Inocuole said:
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ZeeKay said:
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spacechildo said: peroxide is harmful to myc but kills cob web, no point in harming your myc unless you actually have cob web. like chemo for non-cancer patients.
btw why is the tub inside a fridge? the tub wants fresh air, not to be locked inside a fridge.
oops. Well, live and learn right? Maybe I was just overly cautious :P
Well when you're being cautious, rule 1 is to make sure the thing you're doing isn't causing more harm than good, otherwise you're being reckless and destructive, regardless of your intentions. I see it pretty much every day. Sounds like you've been reading a lot of old info if you think colonization should happen in the dark, and if that's the case, it's unlikely that's the only misconception. I would go ahead and forget what you've read so far and start over here with teks that were made in the last 5-6 years. Don't wait to make changes, failure is not a taste that inspires a second try so well.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19140341#19140341 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18430998 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11585613#11585613
thanks for that n_n to be completely honest i had it in the fridge MOSTLY because it's a sterile environment but it's good to know that ambient light helps
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spacechildo said: oh its colonizing, no you dont need darkness that's old info, ambient lights are just fine then hit it with lots of bright light for fruiting!
Sweet. She's now sitting at my feet under my desk
Edited by ZeeKay (04/17/16 03:31 PM)
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Inocuole
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Re: Popping my Cultivation Cherry [Re: ZeeKay]
#23128668 - 04/17/16 08:29 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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The fridge is a sterile environment?? This is news to me.
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Doxx
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Re: Popping my Cultivation Cherry [Re: ZeeKay]
#23128703 - 04/17/16 08:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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ZeeKay said:
Sweet. She's now sitting at my feet under my desk
Storing your tubs on the floor will increase your contamination rate.
Keep them up on a shelf or on your desk.
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Re: Popping my Cultivation Cherry [Re: Inocuole]
#23128707 - 04/17/16 08:38 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: The fridge is a sterile environment?? This is news to me.
Most fridges I've seen are barely even sanitary. Good start OP, you put a lot more research into your grow than most newcomers. I think you'll get some reward for your work.
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ZeeKay
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Inocuole said: The fridge is a sterile environment?? This is news to me.
haha well mine was at least. Smelled like a damn hospital by the time I was done with it
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Doxx said:
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ZeeKay said:
Sweet. She's now sitting at my feet under my desk
Storing your tubs on the floor will increase your contamination rate.
Keep them up on a shelf or on your desk. 
Oh, true! Thanks for the heads up. Now sitting on a couple of storage tubs im keeping my mushroom supplies in, nice and off the ground. Also pictured: A pressure cooker i picked up today from second hand store (only a small one but it'll do for now!)

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Inocuole said: The fridge is a sterile environment?? This is news to me.
Most fridges I've seen are barely even sanitary. Good start OP, you put a lot more research into your grow than most newcomers. I think you'll get some reward for your work.
Thanks a bunch I really hope so. I didn't want to be one of those annoying newbies that asks a billion questions that are easily googleable haha
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Re: Popping my Cultivation Cherry [Re: ZeeKay]
#23128855 - 04/17/16 09:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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You should do a bit more research on sterility and sanitary, anywhere that's getting unfiltered air isn't sanitary no matter how much alcohol/lysol/whatever else you throw at it
Edited by TheDeathryderIsBac (04/17/16 09:38 PM)
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Re: Popping my Cultivation Cherry [Re: Inocuole]
#23129059 - 04/17/16 10:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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ZeeKay
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Re: Popping my Cultivation Cherry [Re: tombosley8]
#23133220 - 04/19/16 02:46 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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bump for a mini update
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ZeeKay
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Re: Popping my Cultivation Cherry [Re: ZeeKay]
#23189243 - 05/04/16 04:27 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bump again for pinning
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ZeeKay
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Re: Popping my Cultivation Cherry [Re: ZeeKay]
#23203644 - 05/08/16 08:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Finished! My first ever grow turned out not too bad. Made plenty of mistakes but it's all a learning process!
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