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MysticHarvest
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How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC)
#23200808 - 05/08/16 12:22 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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DADC TEK desiccant Air Drying Chamber Original TEK by MysticHarvest NEEDED SUPPLIES! •Plastic Tub (any size) •Small Fan •desiccant (DampRid) •Pollyfill •Chicken Wire •Ducktape Now on to the fun part! Getting started Cut out a rectangle on one side of plastic, Then fill with Pollyfill and tape sides down to Prevent Pollyfill from not over sticking out. Step 2! *Optional!* Place trashbag at bottom of Plastic tub and tape down to collect DampRid. Step 3! Bend chicken wire to fit1"-2" above desiccant (DampRid) Step 4! Place fan at opposite side from hole made In step 1!
COMPLETE!

Now you have made a DADC! Generally takes 2-4 days to fully cracker dry.
Place your mushrooms in, turn on the fan and place In a dark area for 2-4 days and check ever 12 hours After 2 days, you'll have cracker dry mushrooms in No time! Thanks for viewing my DADC TEK! -MH
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: MysticHarvest]
#23200817 - 05/08/16 12:28 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Or I could get a cheap dehydrator for about the same price, and less effort. But nice take on an old idea!
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MysticHarvest
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: dankington]
#23200833 - 05/08/16 12:37 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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dankington said: Or I could get a cheap dehydrator for about the same price, and less effort. But nice take on an old idea!
some people can't find or don't want to have to order a NON heat based food dehydrator. or many of us who have much more experience find that air dried mushrooms are much better and usually end with a nicer, more potent, and fresh and friendlier mushroom. But thanks for the input -MH
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: MysticHarvest]
#23200866 - 05/08/16 12:53 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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MysticHarvest said: or many of us who have much more experience find that air dried mushrooms are much better and usually end with a nicer, more potent, and fresh and friendlier mushroom.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Munchauzen]
#23200897 - 05/08/16 01:10 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said:
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MysticHarvest said: or many of us who have much more experience find that air dried mushrooms are much better and usually end with a nicer, more potent, and fresh and friendlier mushroom.

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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Psilosoulful]
#23200909 - 05/08/16 01:15 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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The heat of a dehydrator will actually halt any potency loss. If you were to test the two methods (not by eating either) you would find that the shrooms that were dried with a desiccant have lost more potency than the ones in the dehydrator.
This tek would have been good, if it was the 1990's.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: dankington]
#23200955 - 05/08/16 01:40 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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dankington said: Or I could get a cheap dehydrator for about the same price, and less effort. But nice take on an old idea!
12 hrs, eating some bomb boomers
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23201077 - 05/08/16 02:56 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze said: The heat of a dehydrator will actually halt any potency loss. If you were to test the two methods (not by eating either) you would find that the shrooms that were dried with a desiccant have lost more potency than the ones in the dehydrator.
This tek would have been good, if it was the 1990's.
"The heat of a dehydrator will actually halt any potency loss"
Hows this work?
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: camplo]
#23201083 - 05/08/16 02:59 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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enzymes. Once the heat reaches a certain point the enzymes that break down the mushroom and actives with it, stop working. Forgot the exact temp but it's not even full heat on a dehydrator AFAIK.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23201088 - 05/08/16 03:03 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: camplo]
#23201249 - 05/08/16 05:57 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Heat denatures proteins and inactivates enzymes. You want to use at least 150-160F but most dehydrators go to 170F and that's what you want.
The longer they take to go from wet to cracker dry the shittier the product. Descant is unnecessary and air drying is for nooblets
This drying method is garbage. Take it over to mycopia or Reddit or erowid where shit methods belong
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: bodhisatta]
#23201252 - 05/08/16 05:59 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: air drying is for nooblets
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: bodhisatta]
#23201293 - 05/08/16 06:35 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Heat denatures proteins and inactivates enzymes. You want to use at least 150-160F but most dehydrators go to 170F and that's what you want.
The longer they take to go from wet to cracker dry the shittier the product. Descant is unnecessary and air drying is for nooblets
This drying method is garbage. Take it over to mycopia or Reddit or erowid where shit methods belong
Chicken wire...
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: MysticHarvest]
#23201296 - 05/08/16 06:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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MysticHarvest said: or many of us who have much more experience find that air dried mushrooms are much better and usually end with a nicer, more potent, and fresh and friendlier mushroom. But thanks for the input -MH
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MysticHarvest said:
Place your mushrooms in, turn on the fan and place In a dark area for 2-4 days (isn't it awesome you guys? I just signed up here and am actually rocking it already with my teks and shit, aren't I? )and check ever 12 hours After 2 days, you'll have cracker dry mushrooms in No time! Thanks for viewing my DADC TEK! -MH
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: bodhisatta]
#23201426 - 05/08/16 08:12 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Heat denatures proteins and inactivates enzymes. You want to use at least 150-160F but most dehydrators go to 170F and that's what you want.
The longer they take to go from wet to cracker dry the shittier the product. Descant is unnecessary and air drying is for nooblets
This drying method is garbage. Take it over to mycopia or Reddit or erowid where shit methods belong
lol this is so untrue i have been using a fan and descant for years where did u come up with this
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420] 1
#23201442 - 05/08/16 08:18 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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tripdawg420 said:
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bodhisatta said: Heat denatures proteins and inactivates enzymes. You want to use at least 150-160F but most dehydrators go to 170F and that's what you want.
The longer they take to go from wet to cracker dry the shittier the product. Descant is unnecessary and air drying is for nooblets
This drying method is garbage. Take it over to mycopia or Reddit or erowid where shit methods belong
lol this is so untrue i have been using a fan and descant for years where did u come up with this
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23201455 - 05/08/16 08:22 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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tripdawg420 said:
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bodhisatta said: Heat denatures proteins and inactivates enzymes. You want to use at least 150-160F but most dehydrators go to 170F and that's what you want.
The longer they take to go from wet to cracker dry the shittier the product. Descant is unnecessary and air drying is for nooblets
This drying method is garbage. Take it over to mycopia or Reddit or erowid where shit methods belong
lol this is so untrue i have been using a fan and descant for years where did u come up with this
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23201468 - 05/08/16 08:26 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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tripdawg420 said:
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bodhisatta said: Heat denatures proteins and inactivates enzymes. You want to use at least 150-160F but most dehydrators go to 170F and that's what you want.
The longer they take to go from wet to cracker dry the shittier the product. Descant is unnecessary and air drying is for nooblets
This drying method is garbage. Take it over to mycopia or Reddit or erowid where shit methods belong
lol this is so untrue i have been using a fan and descant for years where did u come up with this
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23201470 - 05/08/16 08:27 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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tripdawg420 said:
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bodhisatta said: Heat denatures proteins and inactivates enzymes. You want to use at least 150-160F but most dehydrators go to 170F and that's what you want.
The longer they take to go from wet to cracker dry the shittier the product. Descant is unnecessary and air drying is for nooblets
This drying method is garbage. Take it over to mycopia or Reddit or erowid where shit methods belong
lol this is so untrue i have been using a fan and descant for years where did u come up with this
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23201475 - 05/08/16 08:29 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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tripdawg420
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23201485 - 05/08/16 08:32 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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new growers
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23201498 - 05/08/16 08:35 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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tripdawg420 said: new growers 
Yes, that's why I'm awfully surprised you said that. Don't worry, I'm sure more experienced growers will chime in...
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Josex]
#23201505 - 05/08/16 08:38 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Josex said:
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tripdawg420 said: new growers 
Yes, that's why I'm awfully surprised you said that. Don't worry, I'm sure more experienced growers will chime in...
what does that mean i have been doing this way long
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Josex]
#23201511 - 05/08/16 08:40 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420] 1
#23201516 - 05/08/16 08:42 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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tripdawg420 said: new growers 
You're like a senior who still uses AOL.
We are your 10 year old grandkids that have to tell you about Google chrome.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23201524 - 05/08/16 08:44 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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SloppyJoseph said:
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tripdawg420 said: new growers 
You're like a senior who still uses AOL.
We are your 10 year old grandkids that have to tell you about Google chrome.
lol heres a recent grow i did it aint much but your get it https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21655388
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23201535 - 05/08/16 08:49 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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And you grow beautiful mushrooms. But you are refusing to accept new improved information. Get with the times man, all those beautiful mushrooms would have been even better if you used a dehydrator, instead.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420] 1
#23201538 - 05/08/16 08:49 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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tripdawg420 said:
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Josex said:
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tripdawg420 said: new growers 
Yes, that's why I'm awfully surprised you said that. Don't worry, I'm sure more experienced growers will chime in...
what does that mean i have been doing this way long 
This is a daily discussion, kinda getting annoyed of it. Mycelium has enzymes to help degrade the substrate it's colonizing. This is a fact. Since mushrooms are made of mycelium, their enzymes degrade the mushrooms themselves if left too long. You can see it turn to mush if left in a wet environment for a long time. Those enzymes are in fact degrading the actives as well as the fruit body. Heat denatures said enzymes. That alongside the fact a dehydrator takes out almost all the water molecules in 12 hours makes it the best at retaining potency.
Now, the fact of the matter is, it's retardedly hard to lose all the potency in a mushroom. Once cracker dry it takes months of open air exposure to oxidize. The amount of actives lost when using a fan drying method PROPERLY (able to dry in 24-48 hours) will most likely be unnoticeable. I too did fan and oven drying for the longest time, but I got sick of always moving mushrooms around from racks to oven to chambers. Dehydrator really made that part super easy.
tl;dr dehydrator will retain the most potency, but the amount it retains will most likely be unnoticeable through eating alone.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23201540 - 05/08/16 08:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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ou cant fit what i do in a dehydrater i grow pounds
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23201553 - 05/08/16 08:53 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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tripdawg420 said: ou cant fit what i do in a dehydrater i grow pounds 
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Mad Season said: Make your own then!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9912647#9912647
Or
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21332722 Or

Also yeah you can. I can stuff a pound into 1 dehydrator, and in 12 hours it's dry. With 3 dehydrators that's 6 pounds in 24 hours.
The DIY dehydrators can probably do 10 pounds.
Edited by Mad Season (05/08/16 08:55 AM)
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23201557 - 05/08/16 08:55 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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UPDATEThis Is for people who want to air dry or are new and need a simple way to dry. Without spending extra money, if you want to use a dehydrator. Use it. But go to A dehydrator forum. don't ruin this for all the new growers who are looking Something similar. Thank you -MH
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23201561 - 05/08/16 08:56 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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tripdawg420 said:
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SloppyJoseph said:
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tripdawg420 said: new growers 
You're like a senior who still uses AOL.
We are your 10 year old grandkids that have to tell you about Google chrome.
lol heres a recent grow i did it aint much but your get it https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21655388
Trip, much respect. You deserve it. But quicker dry times are optimal for retaining potency. I also find that with any fruit that has some density, I need to use heat or it doesn't fully dry with a fan / desiccant chamber. If I grow a 50g+ mushroom, It will degrade to shit by the time it's dry unless I use some heat.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Mad Season]
#23201564 - 05/08/16 08:57 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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thats like a box fan and a blow dryer
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: MysticHarvest]
#23201569 - 05/08/16 08:59 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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MysticHarvest said: UPDATEThis Is for people who want to air dry or are new and need a simple way to dry. Without spending extra money, if you want to use a dehydrator. Use it. But go to A dehydrator forum. don't ruin this for all the new growers who are looking Something similar. Thank you -MH
Regardless of what you say, a fan will only dry to the same environmental rh, which in florida spells disaster for anyone trying to store for longer than a month. Either use heat or a properly dried desiccant to finish the rest. I did 24 hr fan dry > oven on low heat for 1 hr.
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tripdawg420 said: thats like a box fan and a blow dryer

exactly. So many ways to skin a cat, but heat and moving air really seems to get it done the quickest.
Edited by Mad Season (05/08/16 09:01 AM)
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Mad Season]
#23201578 - 05/08/16 09:02 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23201661 - 05/08/16 09:30 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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tripdawg420 said: ou cant fit what i do in a dehydrater i grow pounds 
I've grown over 3lbs this month and my Excalibur kept up to every bit of it. I also use to fan dry and decicant for about a year. Once I went the dehydrator route I never looked back. Ime there is no better way to dry them bastards...
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PinPornProducer said:
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tripdawg420 said: ou cant fit what i do in a dehydrater i grow pounds 
I've grown over 3lbs this month and my Excalibur kept up to every bit of it. I also use to fan dry and decicant for about a year. Once I went the dehydrator route I never looked back. Ime there is no better way to dry them bastards...
i did the exact oppisite i use to dry in a dyhydrater then i kinda our grw it i would like to see some one fit a wet pound that will dry drown to a pound in a dehydrater i tryed i had to smash the shit out of them but
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23201707 - 05/08/16 09:42 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ppl knock the Excalibur but it's capacity and speed is insane. You can stack enough wet boomers on the bottom rack to get a dry pound + in under 18hrs all day everyday without crushing any of them. They may stick together but pull apart pretty easily. But the way you are doing it still produces some pretty potent product. So if you're happy with the results then chug along bro...
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I got no idea what I have because i got it for free online.
What I do know is that it has at least 7 trays, and each tray can fit 2-3 ounces. Stuffed in hard, and stuck together like PPP said lol
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PinPornProducer said: Ppl knock the Excalibur but it's capacity and speed is insane. You can stack enough wet boomers on the bottom rack to get a dry pound + in under 18hrs all day everyday without crushing any of them. They may stick together but pull apart pretty easily. But the way you are doing it still produces some pretty potent product. So if you're happy with the results then chug along bro...
ya i just looked that up wow ya thats a beast
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23201746 - 05/08/16 09:52 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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tripdawg420 said:
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bodhisatta said: Heat denatures proteins and inactivates enzymes. You want to use at least 150-160F but most dehydrators go to 170F and that's what you want.
The longer they take to go from wet to cracker dry the shittier the product. Descant is unnecessary and air drying is for nooblets
This drying method is garbage. Take it over to mycopia or Reddit or erowid where shit methods belong
lol this is so untrue i have been using a fan and descant for years where did u come up with this
I already knew that there was a difference of opinion on the topic, I think the issue of denaturing the enzymes that was derived from dehydrator dried mushrooms not turning honey blue? No one ever sources their info, but I have noticed a particular favor for straight air dried fruits among some. I've always air dried not because I hate dehydrators but because laying a screen on top of a fan and letting them sit worked and I never tried anything else. If it is true true that heat dried mushrooms retain more potency I'll just stick my box fan in front of the oven and put them in there. The faster dry...true. Heat is also usually a catalyst so....I dunno.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: MysticHarvest]
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Okay so here's how it works.
Cubensis contain psilocybin and psilocin. Psilocybin is a much more stable chemical than psilocin; that is, oxygen and water are your foe. Psilocin breaks down very easily. The longer it is exposed to air and water, the more actives you lose. Then as the psilocybin breaks down into psilocin, you lose even more, albeit minimal compared to the loss of psilocin right out of the fruits. The sooner you remove the water from them, the sooner you lock in both alkaloids, and prevent your psilocin and psilocybin from degrading.
Long term storage should be dehydrator to a jar with a desiccant packet placed in the freezer, and when ready to dose remove them, let them reach room temperature, then close it back up and put it back in the freezer. You can store these for years this way.
Here's why you shouldn't fear dehydrators with heat.
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Shdwstr said: Everyone wants scientific proof 
Here it is!
Notice the temps listed 220C - 228C, That's 428F - 442F and it's the melting temp only. If you take a solid and raise it's temp to its melting point, it becomes liquid. Return that same liquid to it's solid temp and... you get the same original solid (it is not destroyed) So... Psilocybin IS NOT DESTROYED at temps as high as 442F
Notice the temp for Psilocin, and that it is only measured in Methanol. That is because in water... the oxygen molocules of the water would oxidize it and desrtoy it. (Not the heat) So... when you dry your shrooms, The active ingredients of Psilocybin and Psilocin are exposed to oxygen destroying the Psilocin but not the Psilocybin, no matter what the temp is.
Keep in mind that this only refers to the chemical form... not live mycelium.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Adden]
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
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I need to invest in one of those, I like the enormous space it provides, no more squished mushrooms
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Psilosoulful]
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im looking at one right now to get fuck ya
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
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I found the 4-tray model off ebay for like 90$, not bad at all, and still has a lot of space. There's no way I'm spending 250$ on the full size model, I'm not made of money
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Psilosoulful]
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lol i saw the same one ya that motherfucker is bad ass
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Psilosoulful]
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Yea they are a little pricey lol but I'd buy another one if I outgrow the one I already have. I love it...
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Here's a 9 tray model for $129 just without a timer
http://m.ebay.com/itm/121979941454
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Wow that looks like a deal!! I'll have to save up
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: bodhisatta]
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tripdawg420 said: ou cant fit what i do in a dehydrater i grow pounds 
I don't want to think about how much desiccant you are using to deal with that.
desiccant packets are great for keeping shrooms dry. I keep one or two in any bag with dry fruits. I also throw them in the dehydrator occasionally to make sure they are still effective.
Are you just buying new desiccant for every harvest? That's a huge waste of time and money.
Summary of every desiccant chamber thread in the past year:
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This tek would have been good, if it was the 1990's.
"The heat of a dehydrator will actually halt any potency loss"
Hows this work?
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The longer they take to go from wet to cracker dry the shittier the product. Descant is unnecessary and air drying is for nooblets
This drying method is garbage. Take it over to mycopia or Reddit or erowid where shit methods belong
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: GreenRabbit]
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i use refill bags damprid with a screen and a trash bag
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
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and you have to buy damprid constantly no? Or do you dry it in the over or something?
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: GreenRabbit]
#23202152 - 05/08/16 11:59 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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no i just take out when it clumps up and dwindle it down then replace it after awhile i dont put them in the bag real wet
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23202168 - 05/08/16 12:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I used to just have 2 cheap models from walmart and when I would harvest, run em around the clock. I could get between a half pound and 10 oz dry outta one of them. Fruits would wait in the fridge in paper bags until their turn. When the dehydrators would burn out I would just return em to walmart and get new ones.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23202169 - 05/08/16 12:04 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Actives will seep out into your paper bag.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Adden]
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Dys said: Actives will seep out into your paper bag.
I always made sure to eat the bag after lol. Really tho my fridge would dry fruits right out. Others had the same experience. Fahtster used to do the same thing. I have heard that people in humid climates have damp fridges so I wouldn't recommend that for them, but I never had a problem with paper bagged fruits chillin in the fridge for 12 hours.
I used to store fresh stones like that as well. They would eventually dry right out but I never noticed any potency loss that way.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
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tripdawg420 said: no i just take out when it clumps up and dwindle it down then replace it after awhile i dont put them in the bag real wet
That sounds like a huge mess, waste of money, waste of time, and waste of effort... I'm way too lazy for all that shit.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Dys said: Actives will seep out into your paper bag.
I always made sure to eat the bag after lol. Really tho my fridge would dry fruits right out. Others had the same experience. Fahtster used to do the same thing. I have heard that people in humid climates have damp fridges so I wouldn't recommend that for them, but I never had a problem with paper bagged fruits chillin in the fridge for 12 hours.
I used to store fresh stones like that as well. They would eventually dry right out but I never noticed any potency loss that way.
This was about 15 minutes of wild pickings seeping water into the bag, taking away the actives (blue). Got a lot more color to it an hour later and I learned to start carrying specimen containers.
I don't doubt anything you say in the least but am just putting it out there.

^ Kind of a not so great example since they sporulated too but you get the idea.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Adden]
#23202210 - 05/08/16 12:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I believe its possible for sure. But when you have 12000 wet grams on your hands you stop caring about the little shit. Maybe its a bad attitude but its how it used to get sometimes. I do not miss dealing with that noise tho, I be liking this break from growing regular.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: LocN9ne]
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That sounds like a huge mess, waste of money, waste of time, and waste of effort... I'm way too lazy for all that shit.
money isnt a problem its not a mess at all
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
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This is how I used to roll lol, fan dry for a day and load em in this for another day or 2
    
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23202256 - 05/08/16 12:29 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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My ghetto version was a sweaterbox with an undershirt stretched over the top. Underneath was some damprid, and on top the mushes and the lid. It worked okay. But looking back, it was a lot of money for so much effort and so little drying efficiency/space.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: dankington]
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: blackdust]
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Haha, well, that's true =P
Nice to see you taking a break. You seemed pretty worn out.
These fan drying desiccant threads show up like every 2 or 3 weeks eh? Which is too bad since actives are wasted. It's like why grow them to begin with if you're pissing in the wind?
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Adden]
#23202444 - 05/08/16 01:56 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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they show up cuz it a good way to dry u wont even notice the potancy no matter what
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23202494 - 05/08/16 02:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lol okay
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Adden]
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23202540 - 05/08/16 02:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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seems to me they pop up every time some newb has read heat destroys actives.
fwiw I dont see how fan drying, then moving to a dessiccant chamber is easier than just putting them right into a chamber where the dessiccant is substituted with a fan w/ heat and just wait until finished.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: spacechildo]
#23202550 - 05/08/16 02:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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its not about how easy or the best way its about 1 way to dry multi monos of mushies at once it works
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23202561 - 05/08/16 02:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah it works its just such a hassle and especially if you grow a lot.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: spacechildo]
#23202566 - 05/08/16 02:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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naw its not how do u dry a dehydrator how do u put all them in there
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23202570 - 05/08/16 02:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Two dehydrators with twelve racks each seems to work well.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Adden]
#23202572 - 05/08/16 02:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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2 how much can u dry in them
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23202575 - 05/08/16 02:48 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Couple wet pounds.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Adden]
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^this. If I ever get back into large scale growing I might go with 3 or 4. Clean the fruits while wet, dehydrate and then straight into vac bags.
It's also about time. I might only get 1 to 1.5 pounds into 2 dehydrators but they are usually done in ~12 hours (unless it's PE or huge fruits) and ready for more. In a week I can dry around 14 pounds with ease.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Adden]
#23202581 - 05/08/16 02:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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what u have pics that would be bad ass to see can i see some of your tubs
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23202582 - 05/08/16 02:51 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm a picker not a grower.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Adden]
#23202587 - 05/08/16 02:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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what deydrater use when u used them i couldnt fit all that on one
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: tripdawg420]
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This is what I use.
You can expand them to have many racks, and if you cut out the centers on the middle trays you can fit way more.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: GreenRabbit]
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You can expand them to have many racks, and if you cut out the centers on the middle trays you can fit way more.
Yup, no settings is the way to go. Just plug in and you aren't even tempted to turn down the heat. Goes to 160ish I think. Get's small fruits dry in 6 hours, average sized in 8 or 9, and big in 12. Got mine on craigslist for 15$ unopened in box.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Pastywhyte]
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^this. If I ever get back into large scale growing I might go with 3 or 4. Clean the fruits while wet, dehydrate and then straight into vac bags.
It's also about time. I might only get 1 to 1.5 pounds into 2 dehydrators but they are usually done in ~12 hours (unless it's PE or huge fruits) and ready for more. In a week I can dry around 14 pounds with ease.
I wouldn't want to be invited to your house while you were doing that . Even when I fill my measly 5 trays the rooms ends up smelling like smelly feet.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Supalemonhaze]
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I'm lucky I have no sense of smell. But the wife fortunately doesn't mind, hell she is great for helping me harvest, clean fruits, etc.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Pastywhyte]
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If you think cubes are bad, ovoids stink. Like pretty fuckin badly. They're downright disgusting in tea, too. I have to use capsules. But man, the smell lingered for two days after nearly filling both. Cubensis at least go away after a few hours if you open a window. Doesn't help much that they're getting pulled out of mud and all, but even mature specimens in great conditions are nasty. I've never smelled a mushroom so stank in my life.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Adden]
#23204462 - 05/09/16 12:15 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's definitely not the shroom for me then, even cubes make me gag. Last time I wanted to dose I had to distill my own high proof alcohol for an extraction.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Supalemonhaze]
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Supalemonhaze said: That's definitely not the shroom for me then, even cubes make me gag. Last time I wanted to dose I had to distill my own high proof alcohol for an extraction.

The shit you have to do man, I'm sorry sometimes it's just a little comical.
distill your own vodka....
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23205227 - 05/09/16 09:25 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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ha, my fiancee is the same way.. she gags really bad from them.. i just pop em in my mouth, fresh or dry, and chew em up real good and swallow.. baha, doesnt really bother me. i have reently been using our coffee grinder to get the them to a fine powder, and then pour the powder into freshly squeezed lemon and lime juice, having it sit for 5-10min then taking it as a shot. seems to start the trip a lot faster.. this still makes her gag, though haha.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: mupetmower] 1
#23205392 - 05/09/16 10:38 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Make her gag for real.
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: Inocuole]
#23205397 - 05/09/16 10:40 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: How To Make A Drying Chamber! (DADC) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23206091 - 05/09/16 01:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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SloppyJoseph said:
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Supalemonhaze said: That's definitely not the shroom for me then, even cubes make me gag. Last time I wanted to dose I had to distill my own high proof alcohol for an extraction.

The shit you have to do man, I'm sorry sometimes it's just a little comical.
distill your own vodka.... 
You do what you have to, I guess. You start from vodka though, or wine and try to make something resembling what you guys call everclear. It's simple really but takes some time.
I will try it with rubbing alcohol next, leave it in the liquid until I want to dose, then dry it off completely so it keeps it's potency. Best I could make was somewhere in the 85% alcohol, needed a reflux still for higher proof. I couldn't reduce it as much as I liked with the 85%.
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