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Cheapest decent method for growing?
    #23199944 - 05/07/16 07:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Hey guys. I've fallen in love with the magic of the mushroom experience. I've begun now to want to grow my own. Of course I want to save a lot of money by growing my own... But really, I just want to grow them for the joy of growing my own mushrooms.

I'd like to start with a simple method that doesn't cost too much; but obviously, I want it to work...
Is the "PF-Tek for Simple Minds" a decent method?

I see it doesn't require too many materials.

So do you guys know what the current cheapest grow-method is today that works well as long as you do it correctly?


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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23199958 - 05/07/16 07:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

PF Tek is the cheapest and most fool proof way. Read. Read. Read. Read. Research. Research. Read some more. Take notes. Take more notes. Until you can flawlessly run through the PF Tek by memory alone before you try anything else.


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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23199960 - 05/07/16 07:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)


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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: Da Wolphin]
    #23199972 - 05/07/16 07:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I want to do the PF-Tek. It seems like the obvious thing...

I'll probably spend a day just researching all of this in the next week.

How much does the PK-Tek cost per run?


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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23199980 - 05/07/16 07:13 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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mctaveesh said:
I want to do the PF-Tek. It seems like the obvious thing...

I'll probably spend a day just researching all of this in the next week.

How much does the PK-Tek cost per run?




little, but more than the above indeed.

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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: Josex]
    #23199984 - 05/07/16 07:13 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19296230#19296230

This is what's up. But if you're just starting out, it may seem a bit complicated. However, it shows you how to make do with what you got, and gets you going with bulk. Which, in the end is probably where you'll be headed.

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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23199988 - 05/07/16 07:14 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Welcome to the club!
I started with PF tek a couple months ago and have now moved onto bulk substrates. PF tek is great to learn and provides a decent personal supply.

I followed this tek personally:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15223324/fpart/1/vc/1

I used a pot with lid I already had on hand, and the verm I bought was used later with bulk growing.

You'll most likely want to move up to bigger projects than PF tek, so if you can, start by buying a >22qt pressure cooker and large tall clear tote for a proper Still Air Box. Those two items are the bread and butter of bulk.

Also, when using the search function, filter posts newer than 5 years or so. There is a lot of outdated information that I had to sift through before I really learned what's up.

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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: dankington]
    #23199996 - 05/07/16 07:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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dankington said:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19296230#19296230

This is what's up. But if you're just starting out, it may seem a bit complicated. However, it shows you how to make do with what you got, and gets you going with bulk. Which, in the end is probably where you'll be headed.




OP can extract some awesome nuggets of good info there, but honestly I don't think he's going to be willing to steam-sterilize grains for 8 hours. Straw bottles can be steam-sterilized for far less time, OP is just going to need to get into agar, which is really easy and I'm sure he'll not regret it.

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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: Josex]
    #23200002 - 05/07/16 07:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

True, I was saying for the cheapest.
I also agree with you all about starting PF tek. It really helps you get a grasp as to what you're doing. I did PF tek for a good 2-3 months before the switch.

Edit: on another note, I switched to bulk using the 50dollar adventure as my guide. :crazy:

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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23200037 - 05/07/16 07:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Pf tek is awesome. There's plenty of teks but I'll sum it up. 2 parts verm(vermiculite) one part water one part brf(brown rice flower). Use half pint wide mouths. Each half pint wide mouth gets 1/2 cup verm a 1/4 cup water and 1/4 brf. Add water to verm in a bowl. Mix until verm and water combine evenly. Add brf mixing until combined well. About 3 heaping tablespoons per jar should do. I fill to the line the ring sits on. Then add dry verm to the space left. This acts as a dry barrier against contaminants. Now you put your lid on upside down so it doesn't seal. Your lid should have 4 holes in the lid near the rim for inoculation points. Cover with heavy duty foil so extra moisture doesn't get in. Pc or steam sterilize for 90 min. Use about 1/4cc of spore solution per hole to inoculate. Invest in a SAB(StillAirBox) there awesome. Build a SGFC(ShotGunFruitingChamber) to fruit your cakes. There's plenty of tek for SAB and SGFC.

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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: bastard4life]
    #23200072 - 05/07/16 07:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I'll be going with the PK-Tek then.

Just to get an idea... How much do you guys spend on your setups?

I'm fine with spending around $100-$200 or so... If I would need more I could wait.

I'm about to go get reading on all this and look at the PF-Tek and see if I can start getting some supplies.

Thanks!


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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23200115 - 05/07/16 07:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

With that budget forget pf tek.

Build yourself a still air box a monotub and get started with agar work, you won't regret it.


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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: lusus]
    #23200133 - 05/07/16 07:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

:whathesaid:

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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: lusus]
    #23200137 - 05/07/16 07:55 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Or look at sclerotia species like galindoi.


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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: lusus]
    #23200141 - 05/07/16 07:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Really? Damn it must be expensive.

I mean how much is PF-Tek though. Several hundred bucks?

So "Agar" would be the best route for me.

I'm guessing you guys are referring to something like the "Grocery Store Agar-Tek":
https://www.shroomery.org/9427/Grocery-Store-Agar-Tek

I'll check these out if the PF-Tek is just too far out of my price-range.

Thanks for giving this noob some direction


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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23200152 - 05/07/16 08:01 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

not at all!
but with less than 100USD you can buy all you need to start growing bulk.
By all means if PF cakes is what you want go ahead, but doing a monotub is as much work
and the reward is 10 fold.


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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: lusus]
    #23200158 - 05/07/16 08:02 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, that works well.


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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23200160 - 05/07/16 08:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

It's not that the PF tek will be outside your price range, it's just that going straight to bulk will result in 3x the amount of shrooms you can get from a standard cake grow, on average.
If you're willing to spend over 100$, then invest in a PC, the 23qt presto works great (got it for 80$ from amazon).
Then learn all about agar, and you'll be on your way to some awesome grows!

Make sure to read through "the basics" to get a better understanding of everything.

:goodluck:

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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23200229 - 05/07/16 08:26 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Ah okay.
I'll save these Agar guides and read some more on them tomorrow.
"the basics" link is helpful too.

Looks like I'll have a good bit to read on but I've got a direction now haha.

:grin:

Thanks a lot guys!


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Re: Cheapest decent method for growing? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23200267 - 05/07/16 08:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

There's a lot to learn, but we're all here to help! As long as you teach yourself (try and keep to info < 3 years old or so), so we don't have to spoonfeed you :wink:

The search post link on the top bar is your friend. You can filter by age of posts, users, TC or not... it's really a great resource.

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