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sclerotia questions
    #23192856 - 05/05/16 04:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

So i have some mexicana sporse coming and ive been reading up on the proper teks but i just cant find rye berries or winter rye anywhere. I found some perinnel rye grass seed but i wasnt sure if that was the same or not. Can wild bird seed be used for sclerotias? I found wheat berries but they were 3.99 for a lbs i think. Im just not sure as what to use for a suitable substrate since the rye berries are virtually impossible to find at a local store.

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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: JaySkinny]
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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: JaySkinny]
    #23192897 - 05/05/16 04:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I like rye for growing stones as if hods more moisture than many other grains.
Wheat berries would be similar but at $4 per lb.  IDK.


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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: RogueTrippeR]
    #23193101 - 05/05/16 05:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I know 4 dollars a lbs sounds like way to much. Ive just been to 7 different stores or various type and so far thats the best i have found lol. And i always enjoy reading thanks for links.

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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: JaySkinny]
    #23193128 - 05/05/16 05:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Just go with whole oats, they're work great and are a lot cheaper too.


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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: lusus]
    #23193143 - 05/05/16 05:56 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Hull-on Oats are great and very common in rural areas. Usually sold by the bushel.

  Took a few emails and calls to find a mill that was willing to set aside 10kg prior to making 'groats'  Most carry rye too.  Had zero luck with farm/garden stores, coop etc.

Any type of untreated grass seed is an optimal grain master, then g2g rye/oats.  That will buy you 3 weeks until a proper grain source is located

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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: JaySkinny]
    #23193173 - 05/05/16 06:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You can use any grain you like


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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: JaySkinny]
    #23193341 - 05/05/16 06:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah hell if oats work that would be easier to get. What about goat feed its grain and i have goats and therefor access to plenty of goat food but id probably just stick to oats. Thanks for the help

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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: JaySkinny]
    #23193448 - 05/05/16 07:26 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Very welcome :smile:


Best of luck!  I newb'd out with my Mexicana and ended up with nada. Definitely save 1ml just in case.  That's a ton for Pastyplates (agar)

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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: Snazz]
    #23194488 - 05/06/16 04:12 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah thats what i was concerned with was newbin out messing it up. I think i will go with either the oats or rye grass seed. Ive read a few teks and ppl seem to like it and rate it better then wbs.

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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: JaySkinny]
    #23197130 - 05/06/16 09:23 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Sclerotia tends to envelop at least a few grains as it grows. I feel better about eating a few rye berries or oats that are stuck in it than WBS, but I don't think it would hurt you.

Snazz mentioned not getting anything with Mexicana. I know that all stone producers are technically Mexicana, but from my own experience and the posts of others on here, spores marketed as Mexicana A strain don't produce stones at nearly the same frequency as galindoi. I've actually never seen a pure stone grow that produces better than galindoi. If anyone has I'd like to see it. For MS grows of galindoi on rye I can consistently pull over 100g per quart. Mexicana A strain I might be lucky to pull 20.

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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: azur]
    #23197176 - 05/06/16 09:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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You can use any grain you like




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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: DMTraveler]
    #23197178 - 05/06/16 09:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Atlantis #7 is my variety of choice :thumbup:


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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: DMTraveler]
    #23197256 - 05/06/16 10:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Atlantis #7 is my variety of choice :thumbup:




I believe you mean ATL #7. Atlantis is another kind of mushroom.


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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: DMTraveler]
    #23197258 - 05/06/16 10:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Atlantis #7 is my variety of choice :thumbup:



isn't ATL7 called galindoi now? haha mexicana confuses tf out of me


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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #23197380 - 05/06/16 11:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I believe Mexicana and Atlantis #7 are different varieties. Don't quote me on that though :laugh: had a lot of experience with ATL7, not Mexicana.


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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: lukehighwalker710]
    #23197385 - 05/06/16 11:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Atlantis #7 is my variety of choice :thumbup:




I believe you mean ATL #7. Atlantis is another kind of mushroom.




Hmm, you may be right. I always though the P. galindoi variety ATL7 was Atlantis #7 :shrug:


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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: DMTraveler]
    #23198039 - 05/07/16 07:05 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I went with the mexicana jalisco strain. I read on a sclerotia tek on here that it isnt too bad compared to the other strains and that it is easier to fruit and the fruits produce the spores easiest compared to others. And eventually i want to try and fruit them once i get the hang of it. And for grain choice im going with rye grass seed.
And as far as eating wbs is concerned im pretty sure these health bars my gf puts in my lunch are part wbs hahaha

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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: DMTraveler]
    #23198138 - 05/07/16 08:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Atlantis #7 is my variety of choice :thumbup:




I believe you mean ATL #7. Atlantis is another kind of mushroom.




Hmm, you may be right. I always though the P. galindoi variety ATL7 was Atlantis #7 :shrug:




Psilocybe Atlantis and Psilocybe Galindoi (ATL 7) are indeed different. If you're interested in reading more about that https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7854539/fpart/1/vc/1

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Re: sclerotia questions [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #23198142 - 05/07/16 08:12 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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DMTraveler said:
Atlantis #7 is my variety of choice :thumbup:



isn't ATL7 called galindoi now? haha mexicana confuses tf out of me



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