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ErikXL45
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Help with "illusion weavers"
#23188019 - 05/04/16 09:17 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok so having trouble getting current info on strains. Can someone give me a link with up to date info? The one I'm most curious about was purchased from a reputable sponsor. It's been branded "Illusion Weavers". I know about The Keeper being a crook. They weren't purchased from him. Now the vendor I got them from isn't selling them any longer. I'm trying to find out what it is I've got with this strain so I can better plan things out with them. Any info on these would be great.
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Xochi Phil
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: ErikXL45]
#23188079 - 05/04/16 09:36 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Don't read so much into the variety name. It isn't a specific strain if you have a spore syringe. Just follow general cubensis growth parameters and you'll do fine.
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: ErikXL45]
#23188085 - 05/04/16 09:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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They are cubensis and all cubensis grow under the same type of conditions, just pick and follow one of the many teks on the site. The variety dosen't change how you grow them, probably just a renamed golden teacher or something. The "strain" forum https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/286
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ErikXL45
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: NDStepp84]
#23188114 - 05/04/16 09:51 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've read the "a cube is a cube" answer many times before. there are pretty large differences between some varieties though. People say the southeast Asian variety tend to be more potent but have smaller fruits. APE taller with less fruits total. B+ being a great overall mushroom with average potency. This "illusion weaver" though all I found is the guy who named it is a crook. The vendor I purchased it from is a sponsor though. Sooooo...if anyone has anything outside of "a cubes a cube", again I'd appreciate the info.
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: NDStepp84]
#23188151 - 05/04/16 10:03 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Xochi Phil
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: Josex]
#23188179 - 05/04/16 10:15 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Xochi Phil
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: ErikXL45]
#23188200 - 05/04/16 10:23 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Try growing the same variety for an extended period of time, and you will see the hundred different appearances and potency that MS projects create. They all do well under the same growing conditions though. PE I can't speak for.
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: ErikXL45] 1
#23188260 - 05/04/16 10:43 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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ErikXL45 said: I've read the "a cube is a cube" answer many times before. there are pretty large differences between some varieties though. People say the southeast Asian variety tend to be more potent but have smaller fruits. APE taller with less fruits total. B+ being a great overall mushroom with average potency. This "illusion weaver" though all I found is the guy who named it is a crook. The vendor I purchased it from is a sponsor though. Sooooo...if anyone has anything outside of "a cubes a cube", again I'd appreciate the info.
a cube is not a cube, but that has nothing to do with how they are grown. every cube can be grown exactly the same.
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: NDStepp84]
#23188265 - 05/04/16 10:44 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Though I have no experience with illusion weavers per se, everyone here is right. In terms of cultivating them, it would be the same as any standard cube (the penis varieties like APE and PE are a little different). I like using the Creeper, which was also a variety from the Keeper. They do fine for me. They are probably the most popular variety he had. He was a crook, so he made a lot of crazy claims, and lied about hybrids and such. Despite this, I find the Creeper pretty solid IME.
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They are cubensis and all cubensis grow under the same type of conditions, just pick and follow one of the many teks on the site. The variety doesn't change how you grow them, probably just a renamed golden teacher or something. The "strain" forum https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/286
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ErikXL45
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: Xochi Phil]
#23188289 - 05/04/16 10:53 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well I've been searching everywhere..even the strain forum. No luck finding it listed there. It's on the Internet some but not much on it. I think I'm just gonna use it and see how it goes. Waiting on grain to arrive this week and I'll give it a go. Maybe I'll be able to shed a bit more light on it. More than anything I hoped to find out if it was more along the lines of a novelty or a producer. I'd be kinda disappointed if a mono were dedicated to it only to get a lousy yield and wasn't worth it.
Thanks for the link though again and again. LoL. Admittedly I hadn't seen the new strain thread only the archived one.
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: ErikXL45]
#23188292 - 05/04/16 10:56 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah it's not in the strain forum. If you find it's unique, it would be cool of you to share your perspective on it later 
I remember the illusion weavers from the old Keeper website (like, 15years ago or so). He had claimed they were a 'strain' used by Nostradamus, if I remember correctly
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: dankington]
#23188308 - 05/04/16 11:01 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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i saw these on a few vendor sites.. they essentially look the same as GT.. the probably are the same as GT.
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: mupetmower]
#23188361 - 05/04/16 11:17 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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dankington said: Yeah it's not in the strain forum. If you find it's unique, it would be cool of you to share your perspective on it later 
I remember the illusion weavers them from the old Keeper website (like, 15years ago or so). He had claimed they were a 'strain' used by Nostradamus, if I remember correctly 
I'll keep you guys posted as to what I learn. Hell if Nostradamus used em must be good shit..lol one can hope.
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mupetmower said: i saw these on a few vendor sites.. they essentially look the same as GT.. the probably are the same as GT.
I'm definitely still inexperienced where identifications go. Everything I'm learning is from here and a little google. Info from people with experienced eyes goes a long way, second only to personal experience imo.
I just started getting pins on my current mono with tksss. 3 more tubs are in the making though. I've got my tksss, albino a+, illusion weavers and b+ spores already here. Wish I'd researched more prior to purchasing them. I'm thinking I'll do another tksss, a b+ and unsure if I'll use the illusion weaver or albino a+ in the 3rd mono. Future plans include some PR and APE if I can swing it.
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: ErikXL45]
#23188407 - 05/04/16 11:34 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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i am literally just about to inoc some AA+ and B+. i am looking forward to the PE6 i have on agar right now. and really wanting to grow some PE and APE soon.
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: Xochi Phil]
#23188473 - 05/04/16 12:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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ErikXL45
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: tombosley8]
#23188546 - 05/04/16 12:29 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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dankington said: Yeah it's not in the strain forum. If you find it's unique, it would be cool of you to share your perspective on it later 
I remember the illusion weavers from the old Keeper website (like, 15years ago or so). He had claimed they were a 'strain' used by Nostradamus, if I remember correctly 
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ErikXL45 said: Well I've been searching everywhere..even the strain forum. No luck finding it listed there. It's on the Internet some but not much on it. I think I'm just gonna use it and see how it goes. Waiting on grain to arrive this week and I'll give it a go. Maybe I'll be able to shed a bit more light on it. More than anything I hoped to find out if it was more along the lines of a novelty or a producer. I'd be kinda disappointed if a mono were dedicated to it only to get a lousy yield and wasn't worth it.
Thanks for the link though again and again. LoL. Admittedly I hadn't seen the new strain thread only the archived one.
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Yeah...got it like 5x now Tom lol. Thx again tho.
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: ErikXL45]
#23188563 - 05/04/16 12:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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just aimed at mupet sorry if you got caught in the crossfire
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: tombosley8]
#23188588 - 05/04/16 12:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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huh? why? i know about the strain forum haha.
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: mupetmower]
#23188616 - 05/04/16 12:55 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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If we all agree we know about the strain forum.... Why are we talking "strains" in mush cult?
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Re: Help with "illusion weavers" [Re: spacechildo]
#23188663 - 05/04/16 01:15 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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-------------------- -The wise man never stops seeking knowledge.
-I wanna feel the change consume me, feel the outside turning in. I wanna feel the metamorphosis and cleansing I've endured within.
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