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First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting?
    #23186850 - 05/03/16 11:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

This forum is by far and large the most helpful of any I've been on, THANK YOU ALL!!
Keep doing what I'm doing????  More or less H2O?
I'm fanning and misting 3 or 4 times a day?
I've searched a lot and learned an unbelievable volume of info, please don't say UTFSE.  I have, there's almost too much....
Do I mist fruits directly, aim for substrate, mist from a far and let the tiny droplets fall ever so lightly?
It's beginner stuff, so I thank you!

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Re: First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting? [Re: ChicagoMan]
    #23186930 - 05/03/16 11:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I would hold off on the misting until this flush is over. The fuzz is starting to creep up the mushroom stocks which is in indicator for me that it has more than enough moisture, possibly lack of air flow. Heavy misting is really only important after a flush and to help trigger pinning, otherwise good job :thumbup:

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Re: First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting? [Re: ChicagoMan]
    #23186992 - 05/03/16 11:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Looks good! Agree with the lack of FAE based on the fuzzy feet.  Look into monotubs yet?

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Re: First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting? [Re: Tripping2Adventure]
    #23187008 - 05/03/16 11:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I'm great at following instructions, but also greedy, but only for my own sake...
PF tek worked too well!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll fan more and mist less,
Thanks for quick response!

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Re: First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting? [Re: ChicagoMan]
    #23187170 - 05/04/16 12:46 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I think part of the problem with fae  is the sides of the container. It may do better after this flush to remove it from the container and put it on foil. To prevent this I'd add more substrate to fill it to the top in the future. When I do trays in my shot gun I bury it to the rim in the perlite and make sure they're filled to the top and they take off. Nice amount none the less though you're doing it right.  Is that just a large brf/verm cake?

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Re: First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting? [Re: themadextractor]
    #23187190 - 05/04/16 12:55 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks, and it's BRF spawned to coir/vermiculite at 1:3.  Everything has told.me too much H2O, obsessive TEK.

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Re: First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting? [Re: ChicagoMan]
    #23187196 - 05/04/16 12:58 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

ThanKS for even suggesting monos, yes I have, but nobody thinks spawning to  a monotub from brf cakes is wise...please correct me...I have more jars  colonizing...PF style!
Xtractor...I was also thinking the early pining was from excess air space in the colonizing tubs.  The next cakes will fill the tubs...and I'm debating pulling them out of the tubs onto tin foil now...side pinning and all.

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Re: First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting? [Re: liloldme]
    #23187295 - 05/04/16 01:51 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I would hold off on the misting until this flush is over. The fuzz is starting to creep up the mushroom stocks which is in indicator for me that it has more than enough moisture, possibly lack of air flow. Heavy misting is really only important after a flush and to help trigger pinning, otherwise good job :thumbup:





Since that is a tray in an S GFC I would say mist right up until harvest... mushrooms suck up a lot of water theyll need it as the flush grows out.


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Re: First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting? [Re: mushpunx]
    #23187837 - 05/04/16 08:08 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Keep misting even with the fuzzys then?  And should I open AC vent in room? Currently there is no source of circulation in the room beside the little air that leaks around vent fins...not much at all.

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Re: First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting? [Re: ChicagoMan]
    #23187861 - 05/04/16 08:16 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yea mist away. Since its an SGFC I would keep the non natural room air currents to a minimum


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Re: First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting? [Re: mushpunx]
    #23188379 - 05/04/16 11:24 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You could technically mist it 24/7 if you had a leaf blower blowing air on it. Your misting is generally in direct correlation to how much FAE it's getting. Since yours substrate isn't drying out and shows signs of lack of FAE, I would cut back on misting and increase the fanning.

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Re: First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting? [Re: ChicagoMan]
    #23188542 - 05/04/16 12:28 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Keep misting even with the fuzzys then?  And should I open AC vent in room? Currently there is no source of circulation in the room beside the little air that leaks around vent fins...not much at all.




Without a picture of the whole fruiting chamber its hard to say what would fix your lack of FAE (if there is a lack of FAE). If you built a proper SGFC and are "fanning and misting 3-4 times a day" you should be fine on FAE. I mist when my substrate looks dry, which is typically once in the morning and once at night, or just once for the whole day. I hold the mist bottle around 2 feet away when I spray on the "fine mist" setting, and I mist during all stages of growth in the fruiting chamber - just don't allow pools of water to collect on the surface.


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Re: First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting? [Re: Perception7]
    #23188688 - 05/04/16 01:26 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)


The SGFC was made to exacting specifications, but there is no source of circulation in the room, maybe that's Ok. Some things I read said there should be an open window or something providing some air movement...fan would be too much.
Thanks for all the help!

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Re: First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting? [Re: ChicagoMan]
    #23189617 - 05/04/16 06:28 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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You could technically mist it 24/7 if you had a leaf blower blowing air on it. Your misting is generally in direct correlation to how much FAE it's getting. Since yours substrate isn't drying out and shows signs of lack of FAE, I would cut back on misting and increase the fanning.




Fanning has nothing to do with FAE and it wont increase it. Fanning is only meant to kickstart the evaporation process after misting, thats it.. and honestly it makes such little difference that I dont thknk SGFCs require any fanning at all.

Frequent air exchange is something that needs to happen all the time. It happens through the holes in the fruiting chamber. In an SGFC, the only way you *could* increase FAE is by either adding more holes or cracking the lid open. But in one that is built to spec this is not nessecary.

In a monotub, you dont need to mist because the substrate is large enough to provide its own humidity. You dont fan a tub either. You control the amount of FAE by tightening or loosening the polyfill stuffed into the large holes.. you want to find the max amount of FAE you can allow before the tub starts to show signs of getting too dry. Its about finding the proper balance so you can leave the tub to do its thing with zero maitinence.

A properly built SGFC is designed to have that balance already sorted out for you.. it gives the max amount of FAE for the minimum amount of misting needed to keep the sub from drying out for the least amount of maitinence. Since the substrates in an SGFC arent big enough to provide thier own humidify, you are always going to have to mist them. The only thing you have to decide is how much misting it needs.

So listen to the substrate... when the tiny beads of water on the surface start to dry up its time for a mist.



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Re: First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting? [Re: mushpunx]
    #23190104 - 05/04/16 08:27 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I think he should keep fanning because his tub obviously isn't setup properly for air exchange, either that or he's spraying the shit out of them.
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when the tiny beads of water on the surface start to dry up its time for a mist.




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Your misting is generally in direct correlation to how much FAE it's getting.



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Re: First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting? [Re: liloldme]
    #23190153 - 05/04/16 08:38 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Fanning has absolutely nothing to do with FAE. It will not increase FAE.

The only way he could increase his FAE on a fruiting chamber like this is by either drilling more holes oR cracking the lid open.


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Re: First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting? [Re: mushpunx]
    #23190185 - 05/04/16 08:48 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

violently moving the air out of the tub frequently with the lid wont exchange air more often? Man I must be retarded..

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Re: First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting? [Re: liloldme]
    #23190474 - 05/04/16 10:09 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for info guys.  SGFC is set up right, I could very well be over misting.  My PE trays have been fully colonized for about 2 weeks now, in the FC Since Saturday.  They haven't pinned at all and seem very moist. I have been misting them 3 times a day as well.  I'll mist more lightly!
Just took very first home grown shroom off the tray, it's printing now.
Tomorrow = consumption!!!

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Re: First ever new fruits doing good!?! (Pics) More/less misting? [Re: ChicagoMan]
    #23190504 - 05/04/16 10:21 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)



Recent pics, why not...
The one I picked was a good 12 hours ahead of rest.

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    #23190625 - 05/04/16 11:11 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Recent pics, why not...
The one I picked was a good 12 hours ahead of rest.



Congrats! :thumbup:

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