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glbggg
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finding gypsum..
#23184708 - 05/03/16 02:26 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I CANT ANYWHERE. So drywall.... do i just break it off and break it up? into powder/dust and dose to water as i would gypsum?
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Faustoid
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Re: finding gypsum.. [Re: glbggg]
#23184734 - 05/03/16 02:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: finding gypsum.. [Re: glbggg]
#23184746 - 05/03/16 02:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Exactly. I don't use it anymore because I broke every single appliance trying to grind it down but the thing that lasted most was a coffee grinder, blenders have sharp edges so they tend to dig in too much and get stuck.
You should try agricultural shops for gypsum, that's usually where they can be found for a decent price. No one sells it where I'm from because all the bedrock here is limestone so fields have all the calcium they need. If that fails you might want to try chemical supply shops, they might have it under the name "calcium sulfate". I still have to try asking them but that's where I buy lime from so it's possible they stock it as well.
Edited by Supalemonhaze (05/03/16 02:38 PM)
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glbggg
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I'm thinking thats exactly the case for me as well.. and considering sheet rock is so readily available to me (my friends all work construction) haha I figure it'll be my best bet. thanks for the quick reply guys going to my buddies to pick up a scrap sheet just now!
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: finding gypsum.. [Re: glbggg]
#23184782 - 05/03/16 02:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Good luck, you're gonna need it. Breaking gypsum boards by hand is long and shitty work.
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Tripping2Adventure
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Re: finding gypsum.. *DELETED* [Re: glbggg]
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Supalemonhaze
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Don't think you can offer to sell something that can be bought from the site sponsors.
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tommyg57

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Also I've seen many department stores have it in gardening. Or yes, get it online. Soo much better then grinding your own from drywall. No need for that shit.
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Tripping2Adventure
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Wasn't aware sponsers offer it. Makes since. Why doesn't OP just go that route?
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Supalemonhaze
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Shipping costs probably. For me it would definitely be more money than it's worth since you can still have good results without it. There are no mycological shops in my country so I would have to ship it from overseas which would be costly, even from the closest countries.
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Re: finding gypsum.. [Re: glbggg]
#23184875 - 05/03/16 03:04 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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typed amazon gypsum in google: http://www.amazon.com/Baker-and-Crosby-67-0L6S-SI8Z-Gypsum/dp/B0064OGEZG
If you cannot use amazon, break off pieces of drywall, put them in a pastic bag and smash them with a hammer. Pick out the non gypsum pieces and voila. Ive used this many times.
-------------------- An old man and his grandson are sitting by the fire outside the tepee, wrapped in furs and gazing into the leaping flames. High on a snowy ridge, a wolf howls at the moon and another answers from far away. Soon after, the old man removes the pipe from his mouth.
‘Grandson,’ he says. ‘There are two wolves inside you. One is white and the other is black.’
‘What are they doing there, Grandfather?’ asks the wide-eyed boy.
‘They are fighting each other,’ says the old man.
The boy considers this, then asks, ‘Why are they white and black?’
‘The white one is your love, your peace and your truth. The black one is your fear, your anger and your lies.’
The fire crackles and sparks flare in the night. The wolf on the ridge howls again and the old man puffs contentedly on his pipe. Finally, the boy says, ‘Which one will win, Grandfather?’
‘Ah,’ says the old man, removing the pipe once more. ‘The one that wins is the one that you feed.’
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: finding gypsum.. [Re: Wormi]
#23184894 - 05/03/16 03:09 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I used it once and promised myself I would never try it again. It felt like trying to kill an ant with a needle. Kept ending up with big chunks of gypsum and the stuff you could call powder was still not an actual powder. It takes too fucking long as well.
What I need is a big ass, heavy duty coffee grinder. That would take care of the gypsum problem forever.
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tommyg57

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Yeh I honestly couldn't imagine getting drywall to powder form without destroying appliances.lol
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: finding gypsum.. [Re: tommyg57]
#23184950 - 05/03/16 03:21 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I broke 1 coffee grinder and 2 food processors. My first blender didn't last a single batch because it kept getting stuck since it's so sharp. Then I got this ridiculously tiny coffee grinder and surprisingly, it lasted like 10 batches before the plastic holding the blade melted and came off the motor. Then I had this other food processor lying around (wasn't even mine tbh) and I grinded down the blade to make it dull but it still didn't last long.
If I ever find a coffee grinder that has the motor shaft, gears and blade assembly made of steel I would definitely buy it. I reckon that will last a good enough time to make it worth buying.
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Re: finding gypsum.. [Re: glbggg]
#23184976 - 05/03/16 03:27 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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By the way if anyone is interested, you can get free drywall gypsum at Lowe's go to the Lumber department and tell a sales associate (not a manager) that you need a drywall kicker, a drywall kicker is what the drywall at Lowes sits on. they throw them away. Oh by the way to break up drywall kickers wrap them in a plastic shopping bag and run back and forth across them with your car, it won't powder them but it softens them up.
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Maybe a rolling pin or rolling pin substitute instead of using a hammer? Curious if the stuff at garden stores called "garden gypsum" works? Does it have added shit in it like Miracle Grow perlite has? That really sucked when I opened the bag and saw crap in my perlite. Used it in my garden so no waste at least. Do hydro stores usually stock it? Could get my gypsum and coir both and there is one close by.
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spacechildo
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yes garden gypsum = gypsum.
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Snazz
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Maybe your work buddies also have a cement /grout mixer. Wet drywall is easy to remove paper and break up. Then bag and dry it out on some plywood scrap
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: finding gypsum.. [Re: Snazz]
#23187805 - 05/04/16 07:58 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I used to grind down the paper with the gypsum, unless it came off easy. Still mycelium food.
I don't understand then, where did you search for gypsum if not in gardening and agri shops?
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every ACE Hardware I've been to has gypsum, coir, and vermiculite. They also tend to have the proper pf-tek jars, taboot.
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Supalemonhaze
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Maybe someday those shops will emigrate to the EU.
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spacechildo
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every garden store I've been to have had verm and gypsum. If you ask them they say no tho. You gotta find it yourself. Service aint what it used to be..
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Supalemonhaze
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Not here unfortunately, if that is what you mean. To be honest I still have to ask the local lab and chemical supply place to see if they have it. It was the same way with lime, you just can't find it in my country at agri shops but then they told me they have it. You have to ask them with its chemical name though, that's the only way you know for sure what they are giving you is what you want. I doubt they stock it though as gypsum has less uses in labs than lime does but it wouldn't hurt to ask.
I have gone to every major supermarket in search for gypsum and lime, after which I started looking at specialized garden shops and co-ops. It was after I gave up that I asked the chemical guys if they stock any type of calcium. Folks here don't even know what lime and gypsum are as a garden supplement. My country's bedrock is completely made out of limestone so calcium is never lacking in fields.
Agri business is not what it used to be as well, most of the fields aren't being worked anymore. I went to this shop where they sell wheat flour, nuts, semolina etc in bulk and they said that back in the day, they had almost every type of common grain in stock. Nowadays they don't even stock whole wheat. Rye is impossible to find. The only grains we get here are the ones sold for horses and companies only import black and white oats and whole and cracked corn so there is very little variety. Then there is WBS, millet etc from pet stores but thin hulled grains aren't as comfortable to work with IME.
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I have never seen gypsum in a garden shop either, have emailed a good few too, with the name and chemical name.
I can get it on ebay but shipping is really high. It is used in homebrewing but usually sold in 100g small tubs for high prices. I am going to ask some if they can get in bigger bags for me.
I have seen bigger bags on sale which had cheap shipping to the US, but not for me.
I would prefer the brewing stuff as I know there will be no additives and would be more comfortable using it for the likes of sclerotia.
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: finding gypsum.. [Re: blackout]
#23188667 - 05/04/16 01:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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The UK is also the cheapest country for US shipping. Whenever I buy something from the US, the UK is the first place in the EU they land in.
SFD's are also suprisingly difficult to find. There are no EU sponsors that stock them and the only vendor I know who sells them is a non-sponsor in the UK and they are almost as expensive as shipping them from the US.
I bought a pack of 100SFDs from ebay from korea but since they are not made for mycology, they are less than a paper thick. I use them but I don't expect much from them. Hopefully they will not be the cause of a shitload of grief.
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Quote:
spacechildo said: every garden store I've been to have had verm and gypsum. If you ask them they say no tho. You gotta find it yourself. Service aint what it used to be..
Well this would explain why I haven't been able to find it yet. I just walk in the store and ask someone at the counter.
They are always like "Gypsum? Uhhhhhhhh.... No. Sorry"
Im with you man gypsum ain't easy to come across sometimes.
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Supalemonhaze
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Pfft, you are one sloppy dude, Joseph.
sorry, couldn't resist
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You know how you never want to pick through the stems in the bottom of your pot bag so you shake it up and tear off the corner to get that shake? Same concept applies here. IMO it's better than not having it. Also its great for the soak. It will just break up anyway.
If you're using it for fertilizer well, you will need a lot anyway.
You cant order it online for some reason?
-------------------- An old man and his grandson are sitting by the fire outside the tepee, wrapped in furs and gazing into the leaping flames. High on a snowy ridge, a wolf howls at the moon and another answers from far away. Soon after, the old man removes the pipe from his mouth.
‘Grandson,’ he says. ‘There are two wolves inside you. One is white and the other is black.’
‘What are they doing there, Grandfather?’ asks the wide-eyed boy.
‘They are fighting each other,’ says the old man.
The boy considers this, then asks, ‘Why are they white and black?’
‘The white one is your love, your peace and your truth. The black one is your fear, your anger and your lies.’
The fire crackles and sparks flare in the night. The wolf on the ridge howls again and the old man puffs contentedly on his pipe. Finally, the boy says, ‘Which one will win, Grandfather?’
‘Ah,’ says the old man, removing the pipe once more. ‘The one that wins is the one that you feed.’
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: finding gypsum.. [Re: Wormi]
#23188758 - 05/04/16 01:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I stopped using it altogether, breaking drywall with a hammer is stupid. Sure it helps but you can still get good yields without it. I would prefer using it but I'm not desperate enough to break out the hammer anymore. Or break more appliances for that matter .
Shipping it is expensive, a 20ish euro or someting sack of gypsum would cost me 50ish euro to ship from overseas.
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