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Thedenthead


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Moisture on mycelium
#23172527 - 04/30/16 11:57 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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This Tupperware has been colonizing for 22 days. Noticed what seemed like an excessive amount of moisture the past few days. The other side isn't quite as colonized but it's almost the same. Reason for concern?
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Ziran
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stay the course. Anyway you can get a more clear photo?
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Re: Moisture on mycelium [Re: Ziran]
#23173505 - 04/30/16 05:48 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's just condensation from the heat of the mycelium and the shrinking of the substrate will leave a small less than 1mm gap between the plastic and sub it's really nothing to worry about imo.
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Re: Moisture on mycelium [Re: AusMush]
#23173965 - 04/30/16 08:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks good
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PirateSwazey said: Looks good
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Thedenthead


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Re: Moisture on mycelium [Re: Blazer420]
#23175283 - 05/01/16 07:58 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for the feedback. I'll post a better picture once I'm back home. I want to just spawn the cake to coir and fruit in trays. Would you guys suggest that or fruit it was one big cake?
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Thedenthead


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Looks like mycelium is growing up through the dry verm on a couple sides.
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AusMush



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That's just arial mycelium man :-) its because its such a big ass container and it basically wants to fruit , that's what I have read and experienced lately anyway, I got some 3/4 pint jars that did that same thing
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Re: Moisture on mycelium [Re: AusMush]
#23183207 - 05/03/16 07:41 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Seems to be stalling a bit. Could I just open it and take the colonized portions out? then spawn to coir.
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Forgive me if I'm wrong but have you got gas exchange holes? I had the smart problem till I like poked holes on the foil and covered in micropore tape
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Thedenthead


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Re: Moisture on mycelium [Re: AusMush]
#23183222 - 05/03/16 07:49 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea 4 GE holes in the lid. I do have them covered with micropore tape though. Since there's mycelilum on the surface I was hesitant to remove it. Didn't wanna risk contamination
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AusMush



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Yeah dude that's what i meant the tap stays till dunking :-) your all set.
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Re: Moisture on mycelium [Re: AusMush]
#23183320 - 05/03/16 08:36 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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So you think I should just let it sit and try to fully colonize? Certain spots look like they've stopped colonizing further.
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You can if you want. if it stalled out I would just remove the uncolonized portions and then fruit the rest.
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Re: Moisture on mycelium [Re: Ziran]
#23183456 - 05/03/16 09:17 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Think I'm gonna spawn it to coir in a tray tomorrow. It's been colonizing 30 days.
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tombosley8
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just make sure to remove all the uncolonised substrate as sterilized brf in open air is definite contam city. Also since the myc has slowed it may be slow in colonising a bulk sub.
In the future use the right size containers for cakes. I think the 1 cup glass jars are ideal.
I use 1 cup ziploc containers for my brf cakes but they are not ideal if you are starting with a MS syringe.
I think these are the ones you want hopefully someone corrects me here if i'm wrong
http://www.amazon.com/Kerr-00500-Mouth-Glass-Mason/dp/B00A0KUGYU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1462291185&sr=8-2&keywords=ball+8+oz+wide+mouth+jars
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Re: Moisture on mycelium [Re: tombosley8]
#23183647 - 05/03/16 10:10 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm just gonna rinse the portions off with water, should I dunk them before spawning to the coir? Yea since these Tupperwares I've moved on to the jars and I'm having more success. The only reason I used this originally was that i purchased a "kit" from a site. The tupperwares have 4 self-healing inoculation points on the top. They're actually a decent design just not for BRF I feel like. Would rye or popcorn tek work with these?
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Edited by Thedenthead (05/03/16 10:12 AM)
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tombosley8
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It might be good for something bulk like muda's bottle tek or pasty's straw bottle tek. Just use that container instead of the bottles. These teks have the final substrate sterilized and inoculated and kept sterile until fully colonised and ready to fruit. You would want a colonised LC, LI, a few agar wedges, or grain master to inoculate it with though. You could do a BRF slurry but that has a high risk of contam so you have to be on your game with sterile work...
It may work with grain but it would be hard to break up the grain to redistribute at 30% colonization.
I would just stick to the teks here untill you really know what your doing. Click the link in my sig and checkout spitball jedi's stuff.
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Thedenthead


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Re: Moisture on mycelium [Re: tombosley8]
#23183874 - 05/03/16 11:06 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Can you link me to the Mudas tek? Can't seem to find it. I do have a Glovebox to work in, but did you sterility as far as preparing the coir? I'd be placing the tray back in my incubator after it was covered. Also, I was gonna use a fine cheese grater to Mix the spawn with the coir.
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Edited by Thedenthead (05/03/16 11:27 AM)
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that thing is gonna take forever, pf-cakes are best done in half pint containers.
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tombosley8
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Re: Moisture on mycelium [Re: tombosley8]
#23184144 - 05/03/16 12:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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If I go the bottle tek route I would have to wait until this is fully colonized, and I believe it's stalled or best case scenario it's colonizing another month lol. I'm gonna watch it a few more days and if there's no progress really im gonna remove all uncolonized substrate. Ideally though that bottle tek would work nicely.
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Thedenthead


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The vendor "shrooms-to-go" just hasn't tested their products apparently because they claim it cold colonize fully in 21 days roughly.. There's no possible way, even under prime conditions.
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spacechildo
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must be some new company, seen them rip off tons of noobs with their products the last month..
mixing brf and vermiculite is really easy tho, bet you could do it yourself if you tried it
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tombosley8
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no no no read the tek again. I'm not talking about using the bottle tek for your cakes you showed pictures of. You want fully colonised clean spawn to colonise the bottles in sterile conditions. By sterile I mean inoculate in a SAB or in front of a flowhood and kept in the container with filtered Gas Exchange until fully colonised. You'll need to start from scratch to get your fully colonsed clean spawn effectively.
With the cake You have now you should do as sai by either removing the uncolonised portions and placing into a shotgun fruiting chamber and misted accordingly or mixed with bulk and fruited in a sgfc or in a monotub.
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Thedenthead


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I have now, have 7 jars going strong. About 80-100% colonized. Ive realized my beginner mistakes haha. But In all honesty, the product was shit but they had good customer service. My first kit of 3 tubs and 3 syringes produced nothing. They sent me a complete replacement order of tubs and syringes. Those also did absolutely nothing, after that they refunded my order. So I made it out ahead 6 syringes and the tubs for free lol.
I whipped up my own substrate for this Tupperware which is the only reason I had this much success.
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Edited by Thedenthead (05/03/16 12:43 PM)
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