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The BULLSHIT Federal Government
    #23162518 - 04/27/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

..,..should be well limited to the powers it was given in the constitution.  Why>

Well, think about this:  Who created the Federal Government?  The States, and the states have the ultimate power to overturn what the Federal Government does.  The Federal Government didn't create the States. 

Now, some people think there should be justices on the supreme court who overturn the constitution at their will, and politicians like Obama and Bush, who run amok over the constitution and depend on the supremes to get away with it. '


I say, go for it statists.  Shove your bullshit down our throats, because the sooner the people feel enough pain from the endless intrusion of the federal government, the sooner the states will hold a constitutional convention and put the coon-tune on that bitch of a Federal Government. 

FUCK STATISM.


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Re: The BULLSHIT Federal Government [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
    #23162625 - 04/27/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

well twelve states created the constitution

rhode island refused to partake

four left the union during the civil war

So if a pre-existing federal gov't did include already existing states or create states out of territories at a ratio of 42:8

I'm not sure if it's entirely accurate or whole to say that the states absolutely created the federal government and deserve to control it's power

also it's kind of inaccurate to say justice's "overturn" the constitution. "interpret how a 200y/o document applies to the ideas of today" I feel would be more accurate :shrug:


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Re: The BULLSHIT Federal Government [Re: airclay]
    #23163270 - 04/27/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Fair enough.  But the idea is really, how much CONTROL do you want the Federal Government to have over you.  I think the idea that the constitution limits the Federal Governments power is not an outdated concept at all. 

And, the States AND Constitution came before there was ever a Federal Government.


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Re: The BULLSHIT Federal Government [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23164089 - 04/28/16 06:24 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

That I can agree with. I think a balance of federalism and con-federalism is necessary. I don't really like the idea of any gov't controlling me but, we're far past that point. As a person who lives in Texas and watches the state gov't just railroad the public w/ crony capitalism and bullshit religiously backed laws, I think the fed needs powers to to balance the states out.


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Re: The BULLSHIT Federal Government [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23168902 - 04/29/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

starfire_xes said:
The BULLSHIT Federal Government should be well limited to the powers it was given in the constitution.



It is.


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Re: The BULLSHIT Federal Government [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23171240 - 04/29/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

we just need:

jobs given to people instead of chosen

there, no more opinion problems.

otherwise...things continue as they have been.

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