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composted manure vs. regular
    #23170083 - 04/29/16 06:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

so i was at a farmer's place today and they offered me to take from 2 piles of manure-- one was composted (i think they compost with hay) and the other was fresh.  I took both.

which one is better?  the composted stuff looked more dirt-like whereas the fresh stuff had white spots (which I believe are indicative of lots of firefang activity).

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Re: composted manure vs. regular [Re: mushroomnoob1981]
    #23170093 - 04/29/16 06:09 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Idk. I just grab dry poo from the field. If it isn't dry, I dry it on a tarp. You want older shit too.


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Re: composted manure vs. regular [Re: Mad Season]
    #23171311 - 04/29/16 11:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Idk. I just grab dry poo from the field. If it isn't dry, I dry it on a tarp. You want older shit too.




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Re: composted manure vs. regular [Re: Lobi]
    #23171390 - 04/30/16 12:16 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

same .. I get horse shit and its like a year old lol it doesn't even resemble poo basically it looks more like idk rocks but much lighter .. also I collect cow shit from a nearby pasture that has had no cows in it for years , I soaked it and the next morning it had these suspicious looking mushrooms growing from them

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Re: composted manure vs. regular [Re: AusMush]
    #23171436 - 04/30/16 12:49 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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same .. I get horse shit and its like a year old lol it doesn't even resemble poo basically it looks more like idk rocks but much lighter .. also I collect cow shit from a nearby pasture that has had no cows in it for years , I soaked it and the next morning it had these suspicious looking mushrooms growing from them





I live by these mountains and the land was taken by the gov. about 10 years ago. their have not been cows there since and I found patties and loaded a trash bag, used it as sub and it fruited fine. blew my mind. :rockon:


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Re: composted manure vs. regular [Re: Lobi]
    #23171532 - 04/30/16 02:02 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Right on dude! How do I go about using this substrate I haven't used cow yet only hpoo , I have removed the dirt by washing so far , these will he used in a project for my pan cyans and some cubes to try see what's better hpoo or cpoo

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Re: composted manure vs. regular [Re: AusMush]
    #23171603 - 04/30/16 03:10 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I prefer the compost to hpoo. But that's me. Been using hpoo compost for years. Prepare it the same way as normal hpoo.

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Re: composted manure vs. regular [Re: bastard4life]
    #23171606 - 04/30/16 03:13 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Ahh I see :-) both are very bacterial to start with but we actually want to have that bacteria to fight off unwanted fungus and moulds :-) I've seen hpoo do wonders for contaminated cakes outside

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Re: composted manure vs. regular [Re: AusMush]
    #23171628 - 04/30/16 03:35 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I do 50/50 hpoo compost/ vermiculite. But I've done 50/50hpoo/verm. They produce pretty equally. Pasteurize properly and your good to go. The ONLY reason I prefer hpoo compost is because i can take it right off the pile and put it in my house to dry with no smells. I have 3 totes for hpoo compost. One for fresh off pile. One that's dried well. And the third is the biggest so I can mix dry hpoo compost with vermiculite for later use. I have 2 10 gallons and an 18 gallon tote. The 18 gallon tote  is for mixed hpoo verm. I do monotubs using 105 quart monotubs and it uses half the hpoo compost per mono. I like 5-6 inches of substrate and 1:2 spawn ratio.

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Re: composted manure vs. regular [Re: bastard4life]
    #23172459 - 04/30/16 11:29 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Okay so I decided on the hpoo instead of the compost.  The hpoo felt pretty dry and it had no smell of ammonia.  Plus, I could see the white chunks of firefang on some of the hpoo.

I finally decided on:

3 quarts hpoo
3 quarts verm
3 quarts coir
4 quarts straw
4 quarts rye fully colonized with KSSS.

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Re: composted manure vs. regular [Re: mushroomnoob1981]
    #23172519 - 04/30/16 11:56 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Think you just have to be careful with what they compost with. Regular hpoo with the natural dead grass/hay in it works faster than anything else for me.

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Re: composted manure vs. regular [Re: mushroomnoob1981]
    #23172520 - 04/30/16 11:56 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I honestly don't really see much of a difference between Hpoo  and coir/verm, I use all three. The myc mainly uses it as a source of water retention for flushes. I like using hpoo to cut down my material costs mainly, I put it through it a wood chipper/mulcher to prep it for use cause I'm lazy about breaking up poo balls :laugh:

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Re: composted manure vs. regular [Re: liloldme]
    #23180910 - 05/02/16 04:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Isn't the benefit of hpoo that it has beneficial bacteria that keep the contams at bay?  How is coir wrt contam resistance?

Also, by other reason for using hpoo is that the first time I got some from a farm, I saw a flush of mushrooms growing on it.  I'm a scientist and am normally rational, but some things are "signs".

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Re: composted manure vs. regular [Re: mushroomnoob1981]
    #23180944 - 05/02/16 04:47 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Well I'm sure the coir has some beneficial bacteria in it too or it would mold before they even bag it and sell it to us. But Really I don't see a difference between the two and getting hit with the mean green. I have had coir totes flush 6-7 times, as well as hpoo.

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Re: composted manure vs. regular [Re: liloldme]
    #23180970 - 05/02/16 04:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I like hpoo better as I get it organically and 100% free and it helps my friends with horses because they always have the shit piling up lmao .. I like the fruit size with hpoo maybe I'm just unlucky with coir but why would I pay for something I can get for free ,having said that I will use coir when I get a good isolation of ATL#7 and Mexicana for stones and fruits.

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