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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23186752 - 05/03/16 10:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I have over 10 blender bottles and counting:evil::crazy2::blewmeanie:


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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Josex]
    #23187758 - 05/04/16 07:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Really, I do both. I often don't even do the blenderless if I'm just working with one culture because I already have a blender and it would be stupid not to use it. The point wasn't to replace it, but rather provide an easy way to pour multiple LI's in one sitting. I like to pour 2-3 species/varieties when I inoculate, so this method allows me to do 1 blender, and then another 1-2 blenderless. It just cuts down on having to re-PC the jar for each batch of LI, or having to purchase and construct additional blender jars. I've adjusted my agar recipe so that my plates break apart easily as well.





I see. I just realized you are the one who made blenderless LI tek.  I can see a softer agar recipe being a little bit better in terms of agar chunks.  Would have to plan it before hand though. I never really know what I am going to put in jars until I see a plate and say, hey this looks good. :lol:

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I don't see many people using these in place of regulay sfd's but they've been working for me.





What's that? :eek: idk if you're serious :lol:




There's a tek on how you can make that felt yourself. You would still need the polyfill that comes in sheets though, we don't get that here either unfortunately so I have to rely on real SFDs. Ones I'm using now aren't all that comfortable, they are less than a paper's thickness so I'm always paranoid I'm going to damage them or something.

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23187767 - 05/04/16 07:44 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

There is plenty of loose mycelium floating in the water of blenderless. If you just used that liquid and left the agar pieces behind you'd still have good results. The agar pieces are usually the fastest to jump off, though.


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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Supalemonhaze] * 1
    #23187772 - 05/04/16 07:46 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I see. I just realized you are the one who made blenderless LI tek.  I can see a softer agar recipe being a little bit better in terms of agar chunks.  Would have to plan it before hand though. I never really know what I am going to put in jars until I see a plate and say, hey this looks good. :lol:





going to publish my revised agar tek here shortly, the video is currently encoding. I've rounded off the ingredients to whole numbers to make things that much easier. it'll be easy as 1-2-3! :hehehe:

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: SloppyJoseph]
    #23187774 - 05/04/16 07:46 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah sure, it works. But as I said before, there won't be as much mycelium as in an LC.

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23187777 - 05/04/16 07:48 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

the two teks are worlds apart and you could make a list of pros and cons pretty long for both

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23187798 - 05/04/16 07:56 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I see. I just realized you are the one who made blenderless LI tek.  I can see a softer agar recipe being a little bit better in terms of agar chunks.  Would have to plan it before hand though. I never really know what I am going to put in jars until I see a plate and say, hey this looks good. :lol:





going to publish my revised agar tek here shortly, the video is currently encoding. I've rounded off the ingredients to whole numbers to make things that much easier. it'll be easy as 1-2-3! :hehehe:




Cool, can't wait to see!

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the two teks are worlds apart and you could make a list of pros and cons pretty long for both





Yeah, that's true. And apart from the pros and cons, personal preference is what will drive someone to stick to whatever is his favourite tek. I never said blenderless LI sucks and it shouldn't be used, just that I prefer other methods for inoculation. Surely it works, or munch wouldn't have released the tek. We have a saying in my country that says, that's why the whole cow is sold. Preference is why basically everyone has a different opinion on the most simple stuff, like grain choice. While plenty swear by WBS, I would pull my hair out if I ever had to use it.

While you might like a gigantic T-bone steak, someone will prefer to make soup from a cows brain with it's eyes floating around. Who are we to tell him that's disgusting? I still probably would. :rofl:

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Adden]
    #23187820 - 05/04/16 08:04 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I know it's kind of weird but I talk to my mushrooms and encourage them, or when I'm out picking I'll thank them and the area. Sometimes leave the radio on low, might as well give them something to listen to.




I do this, also. not iierd at all. i also tape a piece of paper/or write with marker on the jars and SGFC words like "Happy", "Love", "Peace", "Good", etc..

have you seen the effects of positive vs negative spoken and written(and most likely also thought) words on water molecules? they tapped a piece of paper with the word "Good" or "Love" on some and then "Bad" or "Hate" on others, and will also say "I love You"/"I hate you" or "Youre Good"/"Youre Bad" to the water and then flash freeze it. they water with positive energy sent towards it all end up have beautiful, uniform, symmetrical crystal structures, while the water with negative all have disrupted, nonuniform, non-symmetrical crystal structures. they also would do the positive/negative words and stuff to plants, and then also give the plants either the positively/negatively affected water to the plants of each group, and the plants with the positive words anad water would grow great, while the ones with the negative would be weary, limp, brownish, and overall not grow very healthy.

its crazy.. i cant remember who/what university or whatever did the study, but its crazy man. just google something like effects of positive vs negative energy on water molecules, and you should find it. there may have even been more studies.

they also did something similar with music. like soft rock/classical music vs hardcore metal/screamo music with the same effects.



and Munch, i am about to use your blenderless LI to inoc some grains as soon as my plates are clean and transferred enough and are ready for it =]


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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23187864 - 05/04/16 08:17 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I know it's kind of weird but I talk to my mushrooms and encourage them, or when I'm out picking I'll thank them and the area. Sometimes leave the radio on low, might as well give them something to listen to.




I do this, also. not iierd at all. i also tape a piece of paper/or write with marker on the jars and SGFC words like "Happy", "Love", "Peace", "Good", etc..

have you seen the effects of positive vs negative spoken and written(and most likely also thought) words on water molecules? they tapped a piece of paper with the word "Good" or "Love" on some and then "Bad" or "Hate" on others, and will also say "I love You"/"I hate you" or "Youre Good"/"Youre Bad" to the water and then flash freeze it. they water with positive energy sent towards it all end up have beautiful, uniform, symmetrical crystal structures, while the water with negative all have disrupted, nonuniform, non-symmetrical crystal structures. they also would do the positive/negative words and stuff to plants, and then also give the plants either the positively/negatively affected water to the plants of each group, and the plants with the positive words anad water would grow great, while the ones with the negative would be weary, limp, brownish, and overall not grow very healthy.

its crazy.. i cant remember who/what university or whatever did the study, but its crazy man. just google something like effects of positive vs negative energy on water molecules, and you should find it. there may have even been more studies.

they also did something similar with music. like soft rock/classical music vs hardcore metal/screamo music with the same effects.



and Munch, i am about to use your blenderless LI to inoc some grains as soon as my plates are clean and transferred enough and are ready for it =]





Those tests were done by a crazy "professor" who cherry picked his results AFAIK. Tests attempting to re-create his findings were unsuccessful.

It reads like something out of star-wars anyway. Sounds like a bunch of madness. I don't like to believe everything posted on the internet.

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23187878 - 05/04/16 08:20 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

ya that experiment was total bullshit and that movie down the rabbit hole is full of pseudo-scientific-spiritual bullshit.

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23187887 - 05/04/16 08:22 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

are you sure there wasnt one done at a university or something? i mean i read it a long time ago, but i thought it was something a little more reputable. i may be mistaken.. anyways, it makes me feel better to talk to my myc and mushrooms anyways =p

guess it is more for me that for them.

Edit - oh... man, i thought it was cool.. oh well :shrug:


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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23187897 - 05/04/16 08:26 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I thought it was cool too the first time I watched it. Then I did some reading about the people that made the video, and some of the claims. They play on things that we really wish were true, but they aren't.

The organization that made this film is headed by a medium who claims to channel the spirit of a neanderthal who somehow speaks english. Also most of the real scientists involved later said they were taken out of context and the real intent of the project was hidden from them.

So yeah, total bullshit.

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23187904 - 05/04/16 08:29 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

ahhhh.. damn, well that does suck. it really would be cool to be true. i wish i had done a little further research on it before sounding like an idiot :crazy2: but oh well.

so it was in a movie? i just read some article or something i think. i really dont remember. it was a while back. thank you for clarifying, though hah.


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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23187912 - 05/04/16 08:33 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I agree, this New-Age thing is total bs and rather annoying if you ask me.

A proper ego death from a shroom trip can really show you that it's not a good idea at all to try to control your life by sending good possitive shit out there with your thoughts.

Life is as it has to be, and letting go is a far more realistic way to achieve happiness and fulfilment than trying to placete the ego with your desires and wishful thinking, which is just a way of resisting the flow of life.

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23187923 - 05/04/16 08:37 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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going to publish my revised agar tek here shortly, the video is currently encoding. I've rounded off the ingredients to whole numbers to make things that much easier. it'll be easy as 1-2-3! :hehehe:




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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: guyute22]
    #23187932 - 05/04/16 08:40 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

oh yeah, i missed that part of the post! looking forward to it, too. so this will be for your agar you use with the blenderless LI? hopefully the recipe have now will break up pretty well.


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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23187937 - 05/04/16 08:42 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

yes

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23188430 - 05/04/16 11:40 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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There's a tek on how you can make that felt yourself. You would still need the polyfill that comes in sheets though, we don't get that here either unfortunately so I have to rely on real SFDs. Ones I'm using now aren't all that comfortable, they are less than a paper's thickness so I'm always paranoid I'm going to damage them or something.





There is also a tek on how to make them by ironing out polyfil if you want to ease your worries and have no access to sfd or EZ felt https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20115107

although I think thier are mixed opinions on how easy it is to do this. Dilated didn't seem to have much trouble :shrug:


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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: tombosley8]
    #23188435 - 05/04/16 11:45 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

That's what I was talking about. That's the only tek there is AFAIK. Both the tub and SFD tek are basically the same. We don't get that flat polyfill here, I was only able to find a big bag of stuffing.

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23188639 - 05/04/16 01:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I write 3 weights on most of my jars. Weight of jar with lid, weight of dry grains in it, overall weight. This lets you see how much moisture was added and monitor if any moisture is being lost. Many are simmering grains so cannot tell the dry weight unless they work it out.

I also microwave jars of grain until steaming before they go in the PC so I know the core is around 95-100C going in.

You can see on this chart the large tin took about 100mins to get to 100C in a autoclave at 110C



I am not sure if typical grain jars would take less or longer times. The cans in the pic presumably were full of food with liquid taking up any remaining space and so I would guess could transfer heat faster than grain jars.

This is more of interest to people with small PCs only doing a few jars.

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