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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23184681 - 05/03/16 02:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Ya your right For LI I'm sure that would work great but i love mine for slurring cakes.

I didn't know that you could do that good of a job without a blender for agar plates but
I've never tried a blenderless LI :wow::takingnotes: thanks for the time difference info good to know


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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: tombosley8]
    #23184690 - 05/03/16 02:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

oh cakes nevermind.

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23184709 - 05/03/16 02:26 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, the silicone caps go over top of the lid.  If they fit super tight you can place a toothpick or something to break the seal.  Definitely don't want them exploding.  Or some pinholes

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: tombosley8]
    #23184802 - 05/03/16 02:48 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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blenders work way better

here's my baby



originally I was doing slurries with wide mouth cakes so I adjusted my blender and my wide mouth lid to accommodate that.
there are some jars with the no silicon lids thanks to dialated

but now I have these  with the pour spout and the blender all in one and i just cut my cakes in half with a butter knife so they fit thanks to eatualive




I just tried blenderless LI yesterday, didn't like it one bit. It's still there unused because I ended up using wedges for the rest of my jars.

Motherfuckers don't make those blenders in europe.

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23184850 - 05/03/16 02:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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blenders work way better

here's my baby



originally I was doing slurries with wide mouth cakes so I adjusted my blender and my wide mouth lid to accommodate that.
there are some jars with the no silicon lids thanks to dialated

but now I have these  with the pour spout and the blender all in one and i just cut my cakes in half with a butter knife so they fit thanks to eatualive




I just tried blenderless LI yesterday, didn't like it one bit. It's still there unused because I ended up using wedges for the rest of my jars.

Motherfuckers don't make those blenders in europe.




:confused:

you didn't use it, yet you didn't like it?
how do you know you didn't like it if you didn't try it?
so you just made it, looked at in the jar, and said 'naw'
why?

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23184877 - 05/03/16 03:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I used it on 4 jars but I didn't like it even before I used it. An LC seemed like a much better choice. I tried it because people seem to say it kicks ass but I just don't see the appeal. There isn't much loose mycelium compared to an LC or better yet, a blended LI.

I used some so I wouldn't have thrown away a couple of agar plates down the drain. Decided to see the results before I give my ultimatum but I'm not expecting much from it.

edit:

Just realized I said "unused" in that other post. What I meant was I barely used it.

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23184902 - 05/03/16 03:10 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I think blenders are useless for LI. If you shake hard enough, you will knock off all the mycelium into the water and as you shake the pieces get smaller and smaller. If you wait long enough, the agar will soak up the water like a sponge and eventually dissolve into the water with some agitation. No need to wait though because you get plenty mycelium fragments into the water just by shaking hard.

I wonder if you could use a magnetic stirrer set on high to mix up LI. I imagine it would work fine and it would save you some arm shaking.

I have a feeling the mycelium doesn't stick to the agar as much as people would think. It colonizes ON TOP of the agar. I really think blenders are way over kill for agar>water LI.

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: GaiaSporeworks]
    #23184945 - 05/03/16 03:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I have a feeling the mycelium doesn't stick to the agar as much as people would think. It colonizes ON TOP of the agar. I really think blenders are way over kill for agar>water LI.



it also colonizes the inside of the agar with filamentous mycelium

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23185006 - 05/03/16 03:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, it does colonize the whole thing, which is why blender LI is always the fastest when done right. Aside from the extra inoculation points created by blending the loose mycelium properly, the mycelium inside the actual agar chunks will probably double the inoculation points. Granted, you would still have chunks of agar but they would be much smaller with a blended LI.

I shook that jar with all I had and I still had rather big chunks of agar and definitely bigger pieces of mycelium than an LC gives. Waiting until the agar dissolves in the water is pointless IMO, if you want to wait you can just do an LC which will re-grow after use and will give you finer pieces of mycelium via magnetic stirrer.

Can't argue that blenderless LI doesn't work, or that it's more risky than an LC but it's not the kind of thing I see myself sticking to.

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23185063 - 05/03/16 03:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thick eco felt

I don't see many people using these in place of regulay sfd's but they've been working for me.

Hard to tell but these are actually thicker than the standard sfd but still work about the same as far as ge goes.


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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: tombosley8]
    #23185075 - 05/03/16 03:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I don't see many people using these in place of regulay sfd's but they've been working for me.





What's that? :eek: idk if you're serious :lol:

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Josex]
    #23185094 - 05/03/16 03:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

thick eco felt I think is what it's referred to but this doesn't say anything like that on it. I just found them at walmart after someone here(Dialated?) recommended them to me. Really cheap like two bucks each. The price tag just says felt cutout.

It's basically just polyfil pressed together

Hard to tell but these are actually thicker than the standard sfd but still work about the same as far as ge goes.

They are probably anywhere that arts and crafts are sold.

I don't even use silicon with these. Just use a torch lighter to melt the plastic around the hole then press the felt ofver the hole and then press the plastic to the felt from underneath.
Quick easy permanent.
I'm also experimenting with using them for the bottom holes on monotubs...


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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: tombosley8]
    #23185110 - 05/03/16 04:01 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Good to know. I've only seen eco felt being used by Muda in lieu of polyfill for his monos.

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Josex]
    #23185120 - 05/03/16 04:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

this is turning into a great read!

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: liloldme]
    #23185127 - 05/03/16 04:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

edited my post with more explanation and pics if your interested


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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: liloldme]
    #23185128 - 05/03/16 04:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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this is turning into a great read!




Indeed, kudos to OP.

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Josex]
    #23185135 - 05/03/16 04:10 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Good to know. I've only seen eco felt being used by Muda in lieu of polyfill for his monos.




The stuff muda uses in the monotub in his bottle tek is the thin flimsy sheets and he's doubling them up, the stuff you want for Ge holes in lids is the thick stiff kind....

hmmmm... Maybe the thick ones are actually referred to as EZ felt if i'm remembering right.... sorry for any confusion


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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: tombosley8]
    #23185149 - 05/03/16 04:14 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Good to know. I've only seen eco felt being used by Muda in lieu of polyfill for his monos.




The stuff muda uses in the monotub in his bottle tek is the thin flimsy sheets and he's doubling them up, the stuff you want for Ge holes in lids is the thick stiff kind....

hmmmm... Maybe the thick ones are actually referred to as EZ felt if i'm remembering right.... sorry for any confusion




No, I'm taking about his mono's, the ones that he even uses to fruit bottles in. He covers the lower holes with eco felt. It's somewhere in his bottle thread, can't pass you the exact post.


Edit: ok ok I got ya, just skimmed through your post.

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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Josex] * 1
    #23185165 - 05/03/16 04:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I know because I made the same style tub as his tek described and I am fruiting bottles in them. Yes the ones muda uses when fruiting bottles are refered to as eco felt sorry for the mix up. I think the thick ones are called EZ felt and those are what I posted a pic of. Mine don't say EZ felt just says felt cutout.

what he is using on the tubs is the thin flimsy sheets.

Here is dialated's tek for no silicon lids. here

I much prefer his lid design with the felt over traditional sfds as some of my traditional sfd's I could peel off where as the EZ felt is completely permanent no coming off.

I got into these after gluing so many lids and then eventually after a few pc cycles having them peel off.


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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23185308 - 05/03/16 04:53 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Really, I do both. I often don't even do the blenderless if I'm just working with one culture because I already have a blender and it would be stupid not to use it. The point wasn't to replace it, but rather provide an easy way to pour multiple LI's in one sitting. I like to pour 2-3 species/varieties when I inoculate, so this method allows me to do 1 blender, and then another 1-2 blenderless. It just cuts down on having to re-PC the jar for each batch of LI, or having to purchase and construct additional blender jars. I've adjusted my agar recipe so that my plates break apart easily as well.

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