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Pastywhyte
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: GaiaSporeworks]
#23173287 - 04/30/16 04:29 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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That looks like garbage. First it's LC not soft agar. It's liquid. Second I'm supposed to make a litre of clean LC, wait 45 days and then get 20 grams? Who the fuck is gonna do that? I'm gonna make a litre of LC, inoculate a dozen bags, spawn em and 45 days later harvest 6-8 pounds. Even if it worked, I can't think of a more pointless and tedious method to obtain psilocybin.
I admit I was almost tempted to accept some of it as maybe being simply untested but when I start reading about the peroxide and rush Wayne I start to lose it.
Go ahead if you want to. That looks like a whole load of crap tho.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23173414 - 04/30/16 05:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pasty is right that's retarded.
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blackout


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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: GaiaSporeworks]
#23175182 - 05/01/16 06:55 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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GaiaSporeworks said: Has anybody experimented with soft agar mixtures?
Here's what I want to try:
60g Malt extract 2g yeast extract 2g agar 1 multivitamin (crushed) (optional) 1L H2O (warm to mix easier)
I tried it and am going to try it again. Mine was 40g malt extract 2g agar to 1L water. It reminded me of the consistency of gel hand wash. I want to try it with a magnetic stir bar in my jar so I can whip it up to disperse growth and to shred it for syringes. It did form a large mat but I was not sure enough to try harvesting it. I think it could be useful as an alternative to LCs, where people will typically use a test jar or test it on agar. The soft agar shows growth on top so its easier to spot if its contaminated, but it should be still liquid enough to be drawn into a syringe. Though contaminants could be lurking deep in the gel.
I want to try the soft agar with galindoi, since if it did produce stones they would be extremely easy to harvest. It is also very easy to do it in bulk, have 25L containers full of it. I have been messing with peroxide without much success so would probably not bother with it. Large containers are easy to heat treat with internal elements or induction heating.
The yield should really be compared with sclertoia grows, which are also basically harvesting myc rather than growing out fruits.
This was one users results from quart jars for
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SB-2 said: UPDATE
Here are the stats for different substrate. I have done at least 45 jars with all mixes now, so I will make the first table. I'll update it as I get more data.
1. 60/40 Oats/RB - Avg 149g - Low 47g - High 163g 2. Oats - Avg 142g - Low 31g - High 164g 3. RB - Avg 138g - Low 51g - High 167g 4. RB/RGS/Oats - Avg 88g - Low 9g - High 127g 5. RGS - Avg 77g - Low 2g - High 94g
All of the later jars (Most of them) were Mex A. Some of the earlier ones were Galindoi.
So the highest average yield was 149g which would dry to about 50g. But these were likely grown out for longer than the figures shown in the Sandoz patent.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: blackout]
#23175265 - 05/01/16 07:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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- I was out of tinfoil one day and had to PC a round of grain jars. I also had planned to do g2g on some previously PC'd jars that same day. So instead of ripping off the tinfoil and tossing it in the garbage like I usually do when doing g2g, I carefully removed the foil as to keep it intact and reused it for the next round of jars to be PCd.
The tinfoil remains formed in the shape of the lid which consequently made capping the jars a lot easier/quicker. So now I save my tinfoil lids in a box and have em handy when prepping jars. It sounds silly but it actually is really convenient.
- Another thing I've done before if I have an extra jar of spawn is to toss it in a house plant. Cover the myc with a little dirt and water the plant like normal. About a week later you got a dry oz to harvest. Probably not unheard of.
- When I bucket tek (hydrate with boiling water) coir, I line the bucket with a garbage bag for easy clean up.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#23175565 - 05/01/16 09:52 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Silicone canning jar covers. Quick and reusable. Foil wrapping is my least favorite task.
Also, not really new, but using grass seed with 10% nyjer as oil supplement soaked in gypsum while hydrating is an amazing initial jar for g2g.
Super easy to great distribution without a shake when xfer to rye/whole oats. Very fast recovery due to the hull and can easily hit 50:1 ratio.
Used diluted coffee soak, but leads to some negative physical attributes. Sticky Testing Stevia leaf in soak this go around with APE/PE.
Edited by Snazz (05/01/16 10:19 AM)
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Mush 4 Brains
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Snazz]
#23175585 - 05/01/16 09:57 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Silicone canning jar covers
Neat!
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liloldme
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#23176029 - 05/01/16 11:51 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mush 4 Brains said: - I was out of tinfoil one day and had to PC a round of grain jars. I also had planned to do g2g on some previously PC'd jars that same day. So instead of ripping off the tinfoil and tossing it in the garbage like I usually do when doing g2g, I carefully removed the foil as to keep it intact and reused it for the next round of jars to be PCd.
The tinfoil remains formed in the shape of the lid which consequently made capping the jars a lot easier/quicker. So now I save my tinfoil lids in a box and have em handy when prepping jars. It sounds silly but it actually is really convenient.
- Another thing I've done before if I have an extra jar of spawn is to toss it in a house plant. Cover the myc with a little dirt and water the plant like normal. About a week later you got a dry oz to harvest. Probably not unheard of.
- When I bucket tek (hydrate with boiling water) coir, I line the bucket with a garbage bag for easy clean up.
I do this too! 
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: liloldme]
#23176093 - 05/01/16 12:09 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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i am definitely going to start doing this. i thought about it the last time i PC'd some, but was thinking maybe there was a reason i hadnt heard of doing it before. so yay! wrapping shit in foil is my least favorite thing also.. especially the glad mini rounds. ugh..
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#23176132 - 05/01/16 12:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mush 4 Brains said: I carefully removed the foil as to keep it intact and reused it for the next round of jars to be PCd.
I use the thicker foil you get on takeaway trays, pies & cakes. You do not have to be nearly as careful as its so much stronger.
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liloldme
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: blackout]
#23176336 - 05/01/16 01:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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blackout said:
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Mush 4 Brains said: I carefully removed the foil as to keep it intact and reused it for the next round of jars to be PCd.
I use the thicker foil you get on takeaway trays, pies & cakes. You do not have to be nearly as careful as its so much stronger.

Great tip!
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: PutACapInHisAss]
#23176365 - 05/01/16 01:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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PutACapInHisAss said: Interesting! I'm assuming this is the entire substrate mix. Correct? It sounds extremely nutritious compared to many subs. If you can make it work after trying many different subs then I can only believe it is highly viable 
You pasteurize this mix using some method?
How big of a bulk do you make with it? Typical monotub?
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Basidiaphilic said: I'd like to think my bulk grow sub mix is innovative lol.. I used a ratio of..
[3 Safflower seed: 2 brf: 2 worm castings: 1 sphagnum moss: 1 vermiculite]
then I do the "late casing" method, with a 1/4in of coco coir.
Many mono tubs went into landing on this mix, and I may be just one person, but I swear by it.
Yes that is the ratio of the entire sub mix i use. Yeah i'd say typical large mono tub.. The substrate is a total of roughly 6 liter jars, and i add 2 liter jars of myc to mix in. And i actually don't pasteurize.. I know the benefits, but I have had great luck with sterilizing everything PC.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: liloldme]
#23181048 - 05/02/16 05:13 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you or Pasty have a pic of this implemented?
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liloldme said: I don't know how different this is but I pour a liter or so of water in my Fruiting totes. Not directly on them, but in the corner of the tote about an inch or so high.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: PutACapInHisAss]
#23181062 - 05/02/16 05:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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PutACapInHisAss said: Do you or Pasty have a pic of this implemented?
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liloldme said: I don't know how different this is but I pour a liter or so of water in my Fruiting totes. Not directly on them, but in the corner of the tote about an inch or so high.
Not much to take a pic of. Just either pout in at the edges or peel the liner back and pour in that. Here is a tub I did that with.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23181140 - 05/02/16 05:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said:
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PutACapInHisAss said: Do you or Pasty have a pic of this implemented?
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liloldme said: I don't know how different this is but I pour a liter or so of water in my Fruiting totes. Not directly on them, but in the corner of the tote about an inch or so high.
Not much to take a pic of. Just either pout in at the edges or peel the liner back and pour in that. Here is a tub I did that with.

How late into the fruiting process do you wait to do this? When fruits and half of expected height, 3/4, when the veils begin to tear?
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Pastywhyte
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: MountainManDan]
#23181153 - 05/02/16 05:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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When the pinset is in and the sub starts to shrink. Fruits will usually be about 2 inches tall at that point.
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liloldme
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23181230 - 05/02/16 06:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: When the pinset is in and the sub starts to shrink. Fruits will usually be about 2 inches tall at that point.
Exactly! I poured water in the corner when they were around 2 inches tall, right as the cake started showing shrinkage
Edited by liloldme (05/02/16 06:14 PM)
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: liloldme]
#23181429 - 05/02/16 06:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have been doing similar to this but with my cakes. as soon as they get their pins and the pins grow a tiny bit, i put the cake on a little lid with water, and it really sucks it up quick once the fruits start getting big. and it seems to really help out.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23181531 - 05/02/16 07:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: When the pinset is in and the sub starts to shrink. Fruits will usually be about 2 inches tall at that point.
Thank you kindly Pasteywhyte 
Just gave it a try.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: MountainManDan]
#23181550 - 05/02/16 07:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Big Gulps! 

*shameless plug*
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23182102 - 05/02/16 09:53 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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SloppyJoseph said: Big Gulps! 

*shameless plug*
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