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PutACapInHisAss
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What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? 2
#23169818 - 04/29/16 04:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've been cultivating for many years (but not consistently). I've seen a lot of ideas come and go. I have mainly done mainstream teks in straightforward ways. I did try dunking cakes and a few other things when they were *kinda* new to the forums.
I just wonder from your experience if there are things you like to do that are not exactly common or widely used. Of course, such would be purely subjective, old or new, innovative, or just 'cause you like it.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: PutACapInHisAss]
#23169861 - 04/29/16 04:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice thread idea
Not really that obscure but I use polyfill lids for brf cakes instead of a verm layer
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: PutACapInHisAss]
#23169904 - 04/29/16 04:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'd like to think my bulk grow sub mix is innovative lol.. I used a ratio of..
[3 Safflower seed: 2 brf: 2 worm castings: 1 sphagnum moss: 1 vermiculite]
then I do the "late casing" method, with a 1/4in of coco coir.
Many mono tubs went into landing on this mix, and I may be just one person, but I swear by it.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Basidiaphilic]
#23170211 - 04/29/16 06:48 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Soil/verm casings with ground up egg shells in place of lime. Been meaning to make a tek out of it, but I call it the poor mans casing lol
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Mad Season]
#23170330 - 04/29/16 07:27 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I do a straw tek where I shred straw up and then hydrate it with water that has a flour suspension in it. I then pack the straw flour into quart pp5s, sterilize, and inoculate with LC. Once colonized case it and fruit. Sometimes I use a 2 liter pop bottle with the bottom cut off instead of a chamber. Costs about 5 cents in materials per pp5.
I also stopped using filters in my plastic lids. I just unscrew them a touch and not pick em up until colonized.
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PutACapInHisAss
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: JvF]
#23172413 - 04/30/16 11:15 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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So, you have polyfill replacing the whole lid? Or just in part of the lid? Retail or do you make your own?
I intend to try the tek for ironing polyfil to make filters/protectors for my new monotubs. I suppose the same thing could work for jars but might be difficult to get thin enough homemade.
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JvF said: Nice thread idea
Not really that obscure but I use polyfill lids for brf cakes instead of a verm layer

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PutACapInHisAss
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Basidiaphilic]
#23172441 - 04/30/16 11:24 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Interesting! I'm assuming this is the entire substrate mix. Correct? It sounds extremely nutritious compared to many subs. If you can make it work after trying many different subs then I can only believe it is highly viable 
You pasteurize this mix using some method?
How big of a bulk do you make with it? Typical monotub?
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Basidiaphilic said: I'd like to think my bulk grow sub mix is innovative lol.. I used a ratio of..
[3 Safflower seed: 2 brf: 2 worm castings: 1 sphagnum moss: 1 vermiculite]
then I do the "late casing" method, with a 1/4in of coco coir.
Many mono tubs went into landing on this mix, and I may be just one person, but I swear by it.
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PutACapInHisAss
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Mad Season]
#23172452 - 04/30/16 11:28 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is a really good thought for me personally. I started my first veggie garden this year and I've been grinding up eggshells for all the night shades. I can just keep it up if I want to bump up the calcium, etc.
Have you tested the PH on your casing mix?
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Mad Season said: Soil/verm casings with ground up egg shells in place of lime. Been meaning to make a tek out of it, but I call it the poor mans casing lol
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23172487 - 04/30/16 11:41 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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What kind of flour? BRF?
Do you mind saying what species you are using this with?
Where you've stopped using filters, is this for LC's, spawn containers, what? Do you leave a large air space?
When you talk about PP5's, what form are they in?
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Pastywhyte said: I do a straw tek where I shred straw up and then hydrate it with water that has a flour suspension in it. I then pack the straw flour into quart pp5s, sterilize, and inoculate with LC. Once colonized case it and fruit. Sometimes I use a 2 liter pop bottle with the bottom cut off instead of a chamber. Costs about 5 cents in materials per pp5.
I also stopped using filters in my plastic lids. I just unscrew them a touch and not pick em up until colonized.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: PutACapInHisAss]
#23172494 - 04/30/16 11:44 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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The straw tek uses whole wheat flour. Works for cubes, and some woodloving species as well. That method and my lids writeup are all detailed in the links in my signature.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: PutACapInHisAss]
#23172506 - 04/30/16 11:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Crushed oyster shells are a good cheap source of calcium, about 2 bucks a pound, maybe less cant remember it's been so long since I bought mine.
I don't know how different this is but I pour a liter or so of water in my Fruiting totes. Not directly on them, but in the corner of the tote about an inch or so high. It really helps beef up my flushes I feel as it sucks it right up in only half a day. Some would argue that it's all water weight but I disagree, I feel like it helps the myc move the last bit of material to the surface for bigger fruits and less stress on the Block of mycelium. It's kinda like a pre dunk. After I harvest I completely dunk for a couple more hours them pour it all out and let it pin again.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: PutACapInHisAss]
#23172508 - 04/30/16 11:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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When making MEA, I add manure equal to half the mass of ME.
I have a heated "grow room" (really a closet) that I use for pan cyans. I didn't want to use the standard fish tank heater in a tote because I worry about water dripping onto the lids. This one uses an infrared light (the type you buy at the pet store for reptiles).
The heat lamp alone will make the place get up to 90°F. After experimentation, I found out that you can cover the lamp ballast with aluminum foil and modulate the downward thermal flux by poking holes in the aluminum foil. After poking enough holes, the closet stays at 82°F all day erryday.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: liloldme]
#23172513 - 04/30/16 11:53 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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liloldme said:
I don't know how different this is but I pour a liter or so of water in my Fruiting totes. Not directly on them, but in the corner of the tote about an inch or so high. It really helps beef up my flushes I feel as it sucks it right up in only half a day. Some would argue that it's all water weight but I disagree, I feel like it helps the myc move the last bit of material to the surface for bigger fruits and less stress on the Block of mycelium. It's kinda like a pre dunk. After I harvest I completely dunk for a couple more hours them pour it all out and let it pin again.
Its may be water but it keeps down the aborts IME. By allowing more fruits to develop you ultimately see and increase in yield. I do it as well with tubs showing a dense pinset.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23172658 - 04/30/16 12:47 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Has anybody experimented with soft agar mixtures?
Here's what I want to try:
60g Malt extract 2g yeast extract 2g agar 1 multivitamin (crushed) (optional) 1L H2O (warm to mix easier)
Mix everything, pour small amounts into sealable spawn bags. PC bags 20 min upright. Cool upright in front of flow hood. Inoculate with LI syringe made from standard agar plates. Let soft agar become completely colonized. Harvest mycelium from bag, dehydrate. Apparently this soft agar recipe tricks the mycelium mat into producing the actives we want, psilocybin and psilocin. When the mat is dehydrated or squeezed, it should blue, which indicates that it is active. Imagine using this tek to produce mats of potent azurescens which were used in making blue honey.
Depending on how viscous the soft agar is, you might need to do it in tupperware containers with a filtered hole on the lid for GE.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: GaiaSporeworks]
#23172715 - 04/30/16 01:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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GaiaSporeworks said: Has anybody experimented with soft agar mixtures?
Here's what I want to try:
60g Malt extract 2g yeast extract 2g agar 1 multivitamin (crushed) (optional) 1L H2O (warm to mix easier)
Mix everything, pour small amounts into sealable spawn bags. PC bags 20 min upright. Cool upright in front of flow hood. Inoculate with LI syringe made from standard agar plates. Let soft agar become completely colonized. Harvest mycelium from bag, dehydrate. Apparently this soft agar recipe tricks the mycelium mat into producing the actives we want, psilocybin and psilocin. When the mat is dehydrated or squeezed, it should blue, which indicates that it is active. Imagine using this tek to produce mats of potent azurescens which were used in making blue honey.
Depending on how viscous the soft agar is, you might need to do it in tupperware containers with a filtered hole on the lid for GE.
This won't even be 0.2% agar. That's not soft agar that is barely even LC. Should be 15 grams agar for a soft agar. You also have almost no nutes in that mix. What is the mycelium supposed to live on in less than a percent of nutrition?
Also the actives are not in great abundance in the mycelium. Certainly will be extremely minimal until after it fruits.
Grow fruits, you harvest far more actives that way.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: PutACapInHisAss]
#23172737 - 04/30/16 01:16 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I liked to use pressed polyfill sheets on my mono holes instead of loose packing. It looks tidier.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Zombi3] 1
#23172760 - 04/30/16 01:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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work with your agar plates upside down
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Munchauzen]
#23172937 - 04/30/16 02:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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This isn't a tip, method, or tek, but it is a "whatever", which you listed in the title therefore appropriate :P
When I pick fresh fruits, if they have fuzzy feet/ fuzzy socks, I like to rub it across my lips. It's the softest feeling thing in the world, I love it, and a ritual of sorts for me LOL..
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: IveBeenRecycled]
#23173155 - 04/30/16 03:38 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Im sure others do this but I use clear packaging tape instead of duck tape to cover holes on tubs. Easier to see colonization progress and eliminates the need to open the lid for peeking.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Uncommon or Obscure Myco Grow Tip/Method/Tek/Whatever? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23173230 - 04/30/16 04:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Pastywhyte said:
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GaiaSporeworks said: Has anybody experimented with soft agar mixtures?
Here's what I want to try:
60g Malt extract 2g yeast extract 2g agar 1 multivitamin (crushed) (optional) 1L H2O (warm to mix easier)
Mix everything, pour small amounts into sealable spawn bags. PC bags 20 min upright. Cool upright in front of flow hood. Inoculate with LI syringe made from standard agar plates. Let soft agar become completely colonized. Harvest mycelium from bag, dehydrate. Apparently this soft agar recipe tricks the mycelium mat into producing the actives we want, psilocybin and psilocin. When the mat is dehydrated or squeezed, it should blue, which indicates that it is active. Imagine using this tek to produce mats of potent azurescens which were used in making blue honey.
Depending on how viscous the soft agar is, you might need to do it in tupperware containers with a filtered hole on the lid for GE.
This won't even be 0.2% agar. That's not soft agar that is barely even LC. Should be 15 grams agar for a soft agar. You also have almost no nutes in that mix. What is the mycelium supposed to live on in less than a percent of nutrition?
Also the actives are not in great abundance in the mycelium. Certainly will be extremely minimal until after it fruits.
Grow fruits, you harvest far more actives that way.
Check this out. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7680529 Definitely love fruits too, but I like experimenting.
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