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mupetmower
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What's up with my printing??
#23168768 - 04/29/16 10:35 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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So yesterday, i let the caps that i am printing sit for a few hours, and drop some spores, and then put them all on new foil and have let them sit in my SAB, covered. they have been sitting for at least 12 hours, now. and so i am super confused now, because when i checked on them, they dont appear to be dropping any spores... the only thing that is on the foil, now, is water droplets from the caps making condensation or whatever. yesterday, when i let them drop spores for a couple hours before putting on the foil they are on now, the majority of them dorrped enough spores to make a small black purple-ish print. but now there is nothing on the foiil?? they are sitting in the SAB, and are covered. the very first print i made, came out nice and dark, and overall a pretty nice print. and it sat for maybe 12 hours. i was going to let these sit for 18-24 hours, then take one more print from each for another 18ish hours.
but now im confused as to what is going on. why arent they dropping spores? i mean i just dont get it. and they were all open-capped enough to drop spores:

and even dropped s small amount of spores onto the perlite. i was planning to do a giveaway, and i hate that i might have to tell everyone nevermind haha.. this sucks!
So, if they arent printing any visible spores by now, should i just go ahead and start drying them? and hope for spores from the two cakes that are pinning now...? i hope i can still do a giveaway, or at least give the few people who have contacted me already a print, still. i appreciate any help or info. i mean i know some mushies dont end up droppin spores, so could these just be that? i dont think so though, because they did drop some spores onto the perlite..
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Edited by mupetmower (04/29/16 10:37 AM)
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: mupetmower]
#23168780 - 04/29/16 10:38 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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are they sitting "freely" in the SAB or do you have them covered with a shotter or soemthing? if caps sit wet closed under a shot glass they dont drop spores IME, you need to let them slowly dry.
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: mupetmower]
#23168784 - 04/29/16 10:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: i was planning to do a giveaway, and i hate that i might have to tell everyone nevermind haha.. this sucks!
I don't have a whole lot to add here.. Except, don't count your chickens before they hatch. Hopefully someone will have some printing advice for you.
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mupetmower
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ohhh i thought i was supposed to put a glass or something over them.. so i need to remove this? my first print i took was under a glass, completely sealed, and it still made a print... but should i take the thing off, then, but still have it in the SAB?
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: mupetmower]
#23168800 - 04/29/16 10:45 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Print for 24 hours open in the sab, remove the caps with a pick shaped paper clip, or a fork if youre lazy like me. Don't let your arm go over open prints, then let them sit open for 24 hours before cutting and wrapping them
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: Mad Season]
#23168811 - 04/29/16 10:49 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok cool. yeah i have been very careful to be as sterile as possible in the SAB, while doing these. i had read the arm thing before, so i have done my best to not let my arm go over them. i now have the glass that was sealing them off, so they are just sitting on the foil in the sab, now. hopefully now they will drop spores.
I swaer most thing i had seen had said to put a shot glass or a glass or something on top of the cap while printing, to seal it in there(which i did for the first print i took also). but i guess it all just depends.. thanks everyone.
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: mupetmower]
#23168820 - 04/29/16 10:52 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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the SAB is your glass  If you dont wanna pull out the sab for printing you can fold a dry clean towel, and flip a normal tub over the towel and print right on that. the towel will let moisture escape slowly while the tub is covering your prints.
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: Mad Season]
#23168858 - 04/29/16 11:05 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: Lobi]
#23168898 - 04/29/16 11:20 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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heh yeah, i will prolly do that in the future if i am going to need the SAB while i am printing. i actually do have a towel that the SAB is sitting on now, and took the glass off like you said, so now the SAB is my glass =p thanks for clarifying this for me. hopefully these will still put out a couple prints, so i can do a giveaway =]
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: mupetmower]
#23169107 - 04/29/16 12:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16815139#16815139
I do it like this guy. Two tin trays and use one as a cover. This leaves a tiny bit of room for air. Skim through that tek bro. It also mentions to sterilize in the oven. And I use my SAB when I go to fold the foil and whatnot, check it out. Works for me. But like I say: to each his own
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: kxripps]
#23169236 - 04/29/16 01:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah, it is just weird because the first print worked completely fine.. and i know i read somewhere to put a shotglass or something on top while it is printing. but i guess maybe some shrooms need a little diferent or something.. idk.. haha oh well. hopefully i can still do a giveaway.
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: mupetmower]
#23175229 - 05/01/16 07:35 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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man... i havent been able to stop thinking about why mine didnt print at all.. it is just so weird to me, that it didnt print right. just did a quick search to make sure i wasnt crazy:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16815139 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12199216 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11398744
every printing tek i see does what i did, and puts a jar or glass or something(one did petri dish) over them while printing.but now i am about to be making another attempt at printing a lot of caps from my harvest in a couple days from:

and i dont wanna fuck em up, but i also wanna make them as sterile as i can. by doing what the first tek in those links does: PC the foil cut-outs, and then do it all in the SAB, while using my exacto and a bent paperclip attached to my other exacto(set came with two handles) or something to cut off, and then pick up the caps to place on the foil. but now i dont know if i should cover them or not.. I know Space said he doesnt, and that i shouldnt. i guess ill leave them just in the SAB, without any cover, and hopefully it will work out this time.
what do other people think?
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: spacechildo]
#23175249 - 05/01/16 07:43 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: if caps sit wet closed under a shot glass they dont drop spores IME, you need to let them slowly dry.
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: mupetmower]
#23175256 - 05/01/16 07:46 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: I swaer most thing i had seen had said to put a shot glass or a glass or something on top of the cap while printing, to seal it in there(which i did for the first print i took also). but i guess it all just depends.. thanks everyone.
They say to place a glass over it but not to seal it. They need to slowly dry to release spores.
BTW, it worked for the first couple hours when you sealed them because the humidity inside the glass had not risen to 100% yet and the caps were actually drying as they gave off moisture.
Edited by MacMerdin (05/01/16 07:50 AM)
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: MacMerdin]
#23175266 - 05/01/16 07:51 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think I read somewhere that some people set the shot glases on pieces of tooth picks to let air in/out. Can't remember where I saw that.
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: kxripps]
#23175277 - 05/01/16 07:56 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pan, tamp, #7, galindoi, chicon nindo etc. prints are almost the exact opposite. Since the caps are so small, you have to place something else in with it so it doesn't dry as fast. I use a wetted paper towel to keep humidity up. But they still need to slowly dry.
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: mupetmower]
#23175290 - 05/01/16 08:03 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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this guy puts a tray intide his SAB with the prints on it, and then seals the tray.
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wildernessjunkie said: Be sure to let the alcohol evaporate off before sealing the tray or your caps will turn bluish black and go funky on you.
Eatyualive puts his in a makeshift SAB, which is a small tub that he seals, then further puts jars on top of the prints
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eatyualive said: found these sterilite for about 5 bucks each at target. they stack. they are neat. you can wipe out the inside with bleach wipes. and it makes for a nice still air box type work area. you can seal them easily for the caps to drop spores. then open in your sab and remove caps to allow the prints to dry.
this is essentially what i did. i put everything in my SAB, then put the caps on foil, then put a small tub on top of. it wasnt sealed, it had space between the bottom, to where some air could flow.
that is why i am confused. i did essentially what those guys did.
in shamanamba's tek, he uses the lid to put a nail thraough and puts the cap on that, then seals the jar and prints that way: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15390946
but i guess ill take Space's advice and try it just in the SAB, with nothing else over them.. i am just confused, though, because all of these guys had something over them, and i did it the same way i did these for my first print, and it came out great.. like i said, not completely sealed, it had space between the bottom of the "Glass" and the foil in lots of spots, so it wasnt completely sealed or anything.. so idk..
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Edited by mupetmower (05/01/16 08:05 AM)
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: mupetmower]
#23175298 - 05/01/16 08:06 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you are getting nothing but water droplets instead of prints there is an issue with them being too wet.
I have made thousands of prints in my day.
Take the advice or not. Your choice. 
I'm not trying to be a dick.
Edited by MacMerdin (05/01/16 08:09 AM)
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: MacMerdin]
#23175304 - 05/01/16 08:09 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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nah, yeah, i am definitely going to take the advice, and try them that way. i was just staying how im confused since others do it the way i did with success, and that my first print was done with success that way.. maybe it was because it was only one cap, and not 9 all putting out moisture.. but yeah, i did get just little water droplets. so i guess that is the reason, then.. the spores maybe stuck to the gills since they were too wet.
thanks everyone. ill for sure do them this way, this next time.
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: mupetmower]
#23175314 - 05/01/16 08:13 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you have more questions feel free to ask. I kinda came off as a dick there which I didn't mean to.
Good luck this time. You'll get the feel for it.
Edited by MacMerdin (05/01/16 08:14 AM)
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: MacMerdin]
#23175341 - 05/01/16 08:29 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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=p heh it's all good. I know youre trying to help. And, i will, thanks =]
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: mupetmower]
#23187849 - 05/04/16 08:13 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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so, now i have done these other prints. they have been printing for 36hours now. I looked at one last night before bed(which wouldve been right around 24-26 hours of printing) and the prints look sorta thin... at least they printed this time, but some are really thin/light, instead of thick and dark like the first one i did.
here is the setup:

they are just in my SAB, on PC'd foil.
The big one from this fruit:

was sat on some foil for a pre-print for like 3 hours(so that the actual print would be as sterile as possible), and when i switched it to the foil for the real print, it had already made a pretty nice and dark print.. do bigger caps drop more spores? i mean i know they drop more spores as the circumference is larger, and whatnot, but do they usually make darker prints than smaller caps? or could it just be the genetics? i am still going to do a giveaway, but i am worried that people might be disappointed that they arent super dark and stuff =[
as you can see, i took the advice, and didnt put glasses or anything on top of them.. just in my SAB. which did make these actually drop spores, but i am just wondering if now, it must be genetics that is making the prints not be super dark.
also, in the future, should i just not do the whole pre-print thing? does it really make much of a difference? because i know they prints would be a little darker if i had just did the actual prints from the very beginning...
also, do the caps drop more spores if you harvest them right as the veil is breaking, or if you let them sit a few to 12 more hours after the veil breaks? the reason i ask is because the very first print i did, the fruit was harvested right as the veil was breaking. with all since then, they were harvested a litle while after that..
thanks everyone! look out in AMU for my giveaway if you want a print!
i will only have like 8 or so to give, so sorry it isnt more.
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Re: What's up with my printing?? [Re: mupetmower]
#23188304 - 05/04/16 10:59 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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sorry to double post, but i have an update:
So i just removed the caps from the foils, and have determined that it MUST be a genetic reason for little to no spores being dropped..
 
That was 36 hours for those.. nut this is the reason i really think it must be genetics, my big cap and two other medium sized caps from the same cake all sat for 12 hours and did this:
 
12 hours.. and way darker. and they were left in the exact same conditions, right beside the others. so it's gotta be genetic, right?
so since, those were such a fail, i dont know if i should even give even the 2 best from those out.. i mean, no right? luckily since the other 3 are doing so well, i just switched them to new foil, to take a second print, and if the second prints are as dark as the first after 12 hours, i will try for a third. if not, then ill just leave them for 24 hours and give out 5, keep one big one, and then give out my very first print with them, to make a total of 6 good prints. and then 3 swabs. or i can cut the swabs in half(two tips) and do 6.
meeehhhh.. im so sorry everyone who was wanting a print. i will be giving the two who asked already, the best prints. and then trying to do a small giveaway. you guys dont think i should give any of the super light ones away, right? that would prolly be an asshole move, huh? i mean ill keep them, if not. there are still spores on them, that can definitely be used..
i have definitely learned my lesson, though, and wont be announcing a giveaway before the prints are taken heh... i just didn't foresee this happening. at least i didnt make the thread in AMU for the giveaway, yet.. oh well, live and learn.
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