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thelightandsound
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dunking Question
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2 questions
1. I just finished first flush. I put the sub I submerged in a bucket in the shower. Going to leave for 12 hours then read fruit. Is it okay that I used the water straight from the tap to dunk it in?
2. Do I need to clean the sub off with anything (hydrogen peroxide, water, ect) after the 12 hours before fruiting again ? I tried to dunk 2 cakes the other day for 12 hours before birthing and they smelled like apples a few hours after going into the chamber. So I'm worried about this sub doing the same thing. Ending up like smelly apples after the dunk
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Basidiaphilic


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I can say.. 1. Tap water is just fine. 2. Unsure on whats best, but i always misted with peroxide after dunk, when i used to do cakes.
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Would I just mix the peroxide in a mister? How much ? Is this required to keep it from contam?
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thelightandsound
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Im just worried my bulk sub is gonna end up smelling like apples like the two cakes that I dunked the other day
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Some people use it religiously with the idea that it helps prevent other mold spores and bacteria from growing, other ppl think its useless. Side note- I use 3% peroxide in my hydroponic herb garden because it actually provides more oxygen to the roots. But i do spray 3% peroxide, not diluted with added water, with a normal mister bottle, on all of my fungi projects, wether I'm doing cakes, or doing bulk.
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Basidiaphilic


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thelightandsound said: Im just worried my bulk sub is gonna end up smelling like apples like the two cakes that I dunked the other day
idk whats up with the apple thing..never had that.. if your doing a bulk sub you don't need to dunk it tho (i mean this depends on your setup, but bulk sub normally retains plenty of moisture in a bin, I only mist bulk, I never have dunked bulk).
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I spawned brf to 1 pound horse poo bags in vitro. Now I'm dunking for the second flush. Do I just go straight back into the bag after the 12 hours or must I do something before putting it back in fruit chamber? Like is peroxide necessary ?
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mupetmower
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i see you mentioned 12 hours, are you only supposed to dunk for 12 hours for the second flush? i was under that impression that it was supposed to be 24 hours like for the first dunk. guess if it is only 12 i need to take my two cakes that are dunking for second flush out now.
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bodhisatta 
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Never use peroxide in dunk water or on a cake that's fucking retarded. Use tap water. Follow the directions
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bodhisatta said: Never use peroxide in dunk water or on a cake that's fucking retarded. Use tap water. Follow the directions
Yup
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Peroxide damages mycelium. It's used for very rare cobweb mold supression on bulk substrates, but honestly if you have cobweb toss it and start over rather than trying to turd polish.
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bodhisatta said: Never use peroxide in dunk water or on a cake that's fucking retarded. Use tap water. Follow the directions
I just have it in tap water. When I remove it from the dunk. (This is directly after my first flush) do I just simply put it back in the bag or do I need to do anything before that?
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mupetmower said: i see you mentioned 12 hours, are you only supposed to dunk for 12 hours for the second flush? i was under that impression that it was supposed to be 24 hours like for the first dunk. guess if it is only 12 i need to take my two cakes that are dunking for second flush out now.
I'm not sure if 12 or 24 is correct. I just finished my first flush a day thought 12 hour dunk would be good.
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Idk what does the PF TEK say? The directions you should be following.
It's simple dunk in water 12-24 hours rinse off with tap water. Put back in your SGFC. Never use peroxide and quit adding steps and noob ideas to "improve" things
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turd polishing..... bahahaha

yeah see, i thought it said 12-24 but just wasnt sure about the second flush, because most things just say "dunk after first flush" without specifying a time. but im sure it would mkae only little difference between dunking for 12 and dunking for 24. maybe only a difference in how quick they get dry, again, and after misting.
but thanks, bodhi.
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Edited by mupetmower (04/29/16 08:08 AM)
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bodhisatta said: Idk what does the PF TEK say? The directions you should be following.
It's simple dunk in water 12-24 hours rinse off with tap water. Put back in your SGFC. Never use peroxide and quit adding steps and noob ideas to "improve" things
I don't think he is doing pftek tho, he said earlier he is talking about a bulk sub that he dunked
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And you can't add FAE. FAE happens aromatically since the SGFC has hundreds of holes in it.
Fanning does not equal fresh air exchange. You don't need to fan at all ever and if you do fan its after you mist. Only after you mist. And it's one or two swipes with the lid 2-3 seconds.
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ohh shit, you might be right. i missed that. but he says dunking a sub, but then also metions cakes..
which is it OP?
Edited by mupetmower (04/29/16 08:10 AM)
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bodhisatta said: And you can't add FAE. FAE happens aromatically since the SGFC has hundreds of holes in it.
Fanning does not equal fresh air exchange. You don't need to fan at all ever and if you do fan its after you mist. Only after you mist. And it's one or two swipes with the lid 2-3 seconds.
I'm not using a sgfc. I'm growing invitro in a 1 pound poo bag.
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He said brf bulk sub so I assume he was just making shit up out of 3 teks slammed together
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mupetmower said: ohh shit, you might be right. i missed that. but he says dunking a sub, but then also metions cakes..
which is it OP?
I had 2 random 1/2 pint cakes as well as my invitro poo bags. 2 separate things. I was just mentioning when I birthed those 2 cakes I dunked for 12 hours before birthing and they smelled like rotting apples so I threw them. My invitro bag just put out its first flush and now I'm dunking it and don't want what happend to my 1/2 pints to happen to this big invitro cake I have dunking now.
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oh gotcha. i highly doubt the problem with the cakes came from the tap water.. unless its so infested with something that you shouldn't even be drinking it. if you can drink it, and be alright, then they can, too. not sure what would cause rotting apple smell, though. im sure there is some contam that can.
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Yeah seems like a mixed tek of sorts.. Good luck, Let us know how it turns out.
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Basidiaphilic said: Yeah seems like a mixed tek of sorts.. Good luck, Let us know how it turns out.
Nah its not a mixed tek really. I spawned brf to 1 pound hpoo bags...let it colonize then fruited. Pretty basic. Now I'm trying to get my second flush and figured dunking was fine in between flushes. My entire question is based around what to do after my dunk. Do I just go straight back into the bag directly from the dunk ? Or do I need to wash it off then put it back in the bag to fruit again?
Edited by thelightandsound (04/29/16 08:19 AM)
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rotting apple smell is definitely bacteria. invitro means no FAE...not sure that's what you mean? in a closed up bag or jar with no air coming in?
brf+manure shouldn't need more than 2-4 hrs of dunking, depending on sub size. 24hrs dunk is for brf-cakes.
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It's in a bag with 4 holes filled with polyfil. So it's gonna get fresh air
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oh, yeah I remember now, it would be a good idea to not start a new thread for each question you got regarding the same grow, makes it easier to know what's up and keep all the info in 1 place.
you're basically using a bag as a FC, not invitro, just fill the bag with water, 2 hrs wait, drain all water from the bag and wait.
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spacechildo said: oh, yeah I remember now, it would be a good idea to not start a new thread for each question you got regarding the same grow, makes it easier to know what's up and keep all the info in 1 place.
you're basically using a bag as a FC, not invitro, just fill the bag with water, 2 hrs wait, drain all water from the bag and wait.
You're right. Just needed quick reply. And I will do 4 hours and wait
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thelightandsound said:
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Basidiaphilic said: Yeah seems like a mixed tek of sorts.. Good luck, Let us know how it turns out.
Nah its not a mixed tek really. I spawned brf to 1 pound hpoo bags...let it colonize then fruited. Pretty basic. Now I'm trying to get my second flush and figured dunking was fine in between flushes. My entire question is based around what to do after my dunk. Do I just go straight back into the bag directly from the dunk ? Or do I need to wash it off then put it back in the bag to fruit again?
Ohhhhh... I see now! Yeah you should be fine to return it to your bag-stye FC.
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I guess just 1 more q. How long before second flush appears ?
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i think i read that it is like 3-7 days usually on average. please correct me if i am wrong, but i believe i read this on a tek or another thread.
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