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mupetmower
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About dunking after first flush
#23164665 - 04/28/16 10:30 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey guys, i just wanted to be sure i am making the right decision. I just harvested this cake this morning:

and now it looks like this:

It still has a few pins on it.
and so does this cake that i harvested yesterday:

that one only produced those two big fruits, plus one more smaller one, that was harvested this morning with the other cake's fruits. So now i am wondering, since those two cakes still have a few pins, should they be dunked? i would feel fine about dunking the cake that had that big first flush, but the cake with only the two big fruits seems like maybe it hasnt finished it's first flush yet, since it only produced those two fruits.
Now, i will say, those two fruits weighed 55g wet and all those fruits from the other cake weighed 78g wet, so it seems like maybe since it made those two big fruits, that it just focused it's energy on those two, instead of putting out numerous pins like the other cake.
So should both cakes be dunked now? even if they still have a few pins? my very first cake(the preemie-cake, which was harvested about a week ago) also had some pins after i harvested, but they never really ended up growing. they only got to about an inch or two in length and were pretty thin with small caps. so i am thinking maybe these current cakes would probably just do that, too, unless i dunk them for their second flush.
I just wanted to make sure with everyone before i went ahead and dunked the two cakes. I also have a question about the dunk, if i should go ahead with doing it: should i take the pins off before i dunk, so they wont abort or anything, or should i leave them on? and then another question for good measure: i have heard a few different things about rolling after the first flush and second dunk. Should i roll in verm after the second dunk? or no? someone mentioned that it causes higher risk for contam.
Thanks for the info! Look out in AMU for a GT giveaway in the next day or two. Taking lots of prints. =]
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Re: About dunking after first flush [Re: mupetmower]
#23164672 - 04/28/16 10:32 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: Hey guys, i just wanted to be sure i am making the right decision. I just harvested this cake this morning:

and now it looks like this:

It still has a few pins on it.
and so does this cake that i harvested yesterday:

that one only produced those two big fruits, plus one more smaller one, that was harvested this morning with the other cake's fruits. So now i am wondering, since those two cakes still have a few pins, should they be dunked? i would feel fine about dunking the cake that had that big first flush, but the cake with only the two big fruits seems like maybe it hasnt finished it's first flush yet, since it only produced those two fruits.
Now, i will say, those two fruits weighed 55g wet and all those fruits from the other cake weighed 78g wet, so it seems like maybe since it made those two big fruits, that it just focused it's energy on those two, instead of putting out numerous pins like the other cake.
So should both cakes be dunked now? even if they still have a few pins? my very first cake(the preemie-cake, which was harvested about a week ago) also had some pins after i harvested, but they never really ended up growing. they only got to about an inch or two in length and were pretty thin with small caps. so i am thinking maybe these current cakes would probably just do that, too, unless i dunk them for their second flush.
I just wanted to make sure with everyone before i went ahead and dunked the two cakes. I also have a question about the dunk, if i should go ahead with doing it: should i take the pins off before i dunk, so they wont abort or anything, or should i leave them on? and then another question for good measure: i have heard a few different things about rolling after the first flush and second dunk. Should i roll in verm after the second dunk? or no? someone mentioned that it causes higher risk for contam.
Thanks for the info! Look out in AMU for a GT giveaway in the next day or two. Taking lots of prints. =]
dunking w/ pins is fine in my experience, just be careful not to bang em up against the side of whatever you're dunking em in. If you're careful with them shey should do just fine
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mupetmower
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alright, thanks. so you think i should go ahead and dunk them then? would you consider that cake that had just the two big mushies a first flush?
I appreciate the feedback 
EDIT - also, forgot to ask, when you first birth the cakes, you rinse the verm layer off, and give the cake a good rinse, when you do the second dunk after the first flush, do i rinse the cake again, and rinse all of the verm from the first roll off? i would think yes, right? and so then like i asked in the first post, would i roll it in more verm after this second dunk? please and thanks <3
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Edited by mupetmower (04/28/16 11:58 AM)
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Re: About dunking after first flush [Re: mupetmower]
#23165038 - 04/28/16 12:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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you rinse the cake but the verm shouldn't fall of, at least it doesnt IME, the myc has a hold of it now.
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Re: About dunking after first flush [Re: spacechildo]
#23165045 - 04/28/16 12:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok coo, thanks. so no second roll, then. appreciate it Mystic and Space!!
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Re: About dunking after first flush [Re: spacechildo]
#23165069 - 04/28/16 12:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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no, second rolls only give a nice microclimate for nasty shit that's landed on the cake during fruiting to germinate in.
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Re: About dunking after first flush [Re: spacechildo]
#23165096 - 04/28/16 12:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amazing fruits man. All my research is on Monotubs so I don't know enough on cakes to weigh in. The fruits. I do know. They look great.
Good work man.
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Re: About dunking after first flush *DELETED* [Re: mupetmower]
#23165522 - 04/28/16 02:59 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lobi
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As previously stated dunking with pins is fine. i normally find when i dunk with pins, especially invitro, they tend to be bigger then the rest of the flush to come. As for the verm layer if you bake your verm at 350 to kill anything on it, you should be fine for a second roll. I always dunk AND roll every flush and i recommend it as well.
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Re: About dunking after first flush [Re: Lobi]
#23166262 - 04/28/16 06:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lobi said: As previously stated dunking with pins is fine. i normally find when i dunk with pins, especially invitro, they tend to be bigger then the rest of the flush to come. As for the verm layer if you bake your verm at 350 to kill anything on it, you should be fine for a second roll. I always dunk AND roll every flush and i recommend it as well.
I agree 100%, it certainly doesn't hurt and you will get better flushes. Just that simple. Do it.
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Re: About dunking after first flush [Re: acidhead1279]
#23166279 - 04/28/16 06:23 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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no offence, everyone else, but space has never led me wrong, and enough verm is staying on during the dunk, so i am not going to roll for the second flush.
and dude, theGods, seriously.. leave me the fuck alone.. is it really so bad to be cautious? like i have said to you many times, i am hear to learn! i have never said i know everything like you claim to. That is why i ask questions when i am unsure, instead of just continuing to be ignorant on the subject, like i have see you clearly are on some things. i have never said i am a better cultivator than anyone. i am here to learn and have a good time. and people like you are just the worst thing the world has to offer. the forum, and the world, would be much better off without you.
i dont care about your shitty life, man. god you need to get a life. go kill youself or something. because obviously your life sucks hard, for you to be like this. stop being a bigot, and learn to stop acting like a child.
EDIT - sorry, i just hate that kid..
thank you, everyone for the replies and info. I am going to choose to listen to space, and it is no offense to any of you, i just trust his word.
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Edited by mupetmower (04/28/16 06:35 PM)
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Re: About dunking after first flush [Re: acidhead1279]
#23166320 - 04/28/16 06:31 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm going to weigh in with some of my own experience with this. I have dunked lots with pins, always been fine. I don't re roll in verm and never will. But to each his own. If it works for you that's cool. To be honest I really don't care how much yield I get out of MS brf cakes. I just take care of them the best I can and let them do their thing.
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Re: About dunking after first flush [Re: kxripps]
#23166322 - 04/28/16 06:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah man, same here. i love to see happy mushies =]
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Re: About dunking after first flush [Re: mupetmower]
#23166385 - 04/28/16 06:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I forgot to add, good job on your cakes man.
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Re: About dunking after first flush [Re: kxripps]
#23166398 - 04/28/16 06:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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thank you, kx. i really do appreciate that. feels good to have some affirmation. also feels good to be proud of my grow. i love this hobby =] so ready for all my plates to get more growth so i can make a few more transfers and start some WBS to make some Mini monos and gulps. actually taking my last brf cake that just got done, and spawning it to 2 big gulps =] gonna be rad!
but yeah, thanks, man.
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Re: About dunking after first flush [Re: mupetmower]
#23166431 - 04/28/16 06:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Experience + Trusted insight > random posters input
No worries dude, no offense taken.
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Re: About dunking after first flush [Re: Lobi]
#23166437 - 04/28/16 06:51 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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see, now that awesome. thats how to act. thank you, dude. thank you. i like you.
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Edited by mupetmower (04/28/16 06:51 PM)
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Re: About dunking after first flush [Re: mupetmower]
#23166443 - 04/28/16 06:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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You absolutely should be proud. It's an incredible feeling. More power to ya in the future.
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Re: About dunking after first flush *DELETED* [Re: mupetmower]
#23166447 - 04/28/16 06:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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You should both take it to IME, this always turns out nasty
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