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How To Get FAE if Cool Mist is in the Martha?
    #6926134 - 05/16/07 06:06 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

So I am reading that the Coolmist works better on a time schedule in the Martha itself rather than piping it in from the outside w/ fresh air. But how am I supposed to get FAE w/o the piping in? I am using the greenhouse type martha setup w/ 4 tiers off ebay :laugh: woot.

Anyway I have heard 1 min on 6 mins off inside the green house, does that sound about right? And how should I situate it so that the effect of humidity + FAE is achieved?

Help is much appreciated, thanks guys.


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Re: How To Get FAE if Cool Mist is in the Martha? [Re: MrChopChop]
    #6926150 - 05/16/07 06:09 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

FAE is 'fresh air exchange' which is provided by cutting windows and/or slits in the sides of the greenhouse. Coolmists are humidifiers, designed to moisturize the air, not provide exchange other than that the turbulence they create within the greenhouse helps to draw air in and out through the vents.
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Re: How To Get FAE if Cool Mist is in the Martha? [Re: MrChopChop]
    #6926171 - 05/16/07 06:13 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)



this is my setup, if you decide to have it on all the time you can just add a 2 foot hose into the outlet covered by waterproof duct tape, the hose points upward towards the top of the martha works good for me leaving a fluctuation around 85-95%rh

bought a flex tube thats used for dryers and hotglued it to the intake and sliced an "X" into the martha and shoved the tube to that reinforced with a lil hot glue. just make sure to put in slits or polyfill at the bottom to let out cO2.

hope that helps


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Re: How To Get FAE if Cool Mist is in the Martha? [Re: MrChopChop]
    #6927204 - 05/16/07 10:01 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Here's what I did and it seems to be working great...

I cut a slit in the greenhouse down at the bottom, and put the coolmist in through the slit, like 90% inside, 10% outside, so the intake was mostly inside but it still draws about 10% air from outside. I cut holes in the upper floors of the greenhouse, maybe about 10 holes of 3/4 inch squares. The coolmist runs 24/7, which lasts a couple of days because I have an extra reservoir connected to it. The humidity stays 93% or higher now and I can feel air coming out of the holes if I put my face next to them. Everything is looking happy inside too.

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Re: How To Get FAE if Cool Mist is in the Martha? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6927230 - 05/16/07 10:06 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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FAE is 'fresh air exchange' which is provided by cutting windows and/or slits in the sides of the greenhouse. Coolmists are humidifiers, designed to moisturize the air, not provide exchange other than that the turbulence they create within the greenhouse helps to draw air in and out through the vents.
RR




The external cool mist that is piped in does in fact provide extra FAE. The cool mist unit draws in air from its surroundings, and outputs that air after it's been somehow laden with water. If you have the humidifier in the greenhouse, it's taking in and outputting the greenhouse's own air.

Now, I imagine you'd rightfully think that if you poke enough holes in the greenhouse, that in combination with the cool mist's providing air turbulence would allow for sufficient FAE.


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Re: How To Get FAE if Cool Mist is in the Martha? [Re: lsg1]
    #6927541 - 05/16/07 11:01 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Sure, for about two weeks until the cool mist shits the bed. This has all been covered over and over again for years. Cool mists can't build static pressure or the motor bushings get wet and ruin. If you use hoses from the humidifier to the GH, you cause static pressure to build. If you put the cool mist inside, you get high humidity, and if you cut slits you get FAE, plus the humidifier will last for years.
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Re: How To Get FAE if Cool Mist is in the Martha? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6927595 - 05/16/07 11:14 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

So far my external cool mist has lasted a few months.


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Re: How To Get FAE if Cool Mist is in the Martha? [Re: dizzy_jester]
    #6928704 - 05/17/07 06:24 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: How To Get FAE if Cool Mist is in the Martha? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #23147600 - 04/23/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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Sure, for about two weeks until the cool mist shits the bed.  This has all been covered over and over again for years.  Cool mists can't build static pressure or the motor bushings get wet and ruin.  If you use hoses from the humidifier to the GH, you cause static pressure to build.  If you put the cool mist inside, you get high humidity, and if you cut slits you get FAE, plus the humidifier will last for years.
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what if your coolmist is inside the greenhouse and you pipe in the intake air.. ?


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