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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23149657 - 04/24/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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bodhisatta said:
no matter who is elected president your life will change 0% unless you make over 6 figures.



If minimum wage were increased from $7.25 to $15, a great many people's lives would change for the better.



And a great many for the worse.

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/uc-berkeley-touts-15-minimum-wage-then-fires-hundreds-of-workers-after-it-passes/

The $15 minimum wage is actually a zero maximum wage for many people.  I can't wait until automation catches up with the change.

Trump has no shot in the NY general.  No Republican does.


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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23154138 - 04/25/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
If minimum wage were increased from $7.25 to $15, a great many people's lives would change for the better.



And a great many for the worse.

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/uc-berkeley-touts-15-minimum-wage-then-fires-hundreds-of-workers-after-it-passes/

The $15 minimum wage is actually a zero maximum wage for many people.



As was pointed out in the previous post (for about the 10th time), minimum wage has been shown to have no impact on employment because workers today are so underpaid.

At UC Berkeley, departments have all been told to reduce their budgets by 10 percent.  THAT'S the reason for the job cuts.  The $15 minimum wage doesn't take effect until 2022.

Another nice swing and miss though.

http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php



The fact that you have quoted the same debunked nonsense ten times does not make it any more accurate.

http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/ContentDisplay.aspx?id=102361
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(Updated August 7, 2014)     


1)      Q:
Where can I find the current Berkeley minimum wage?

A: The current minimum wage is posted on the City of Berkeley website at www.cityofberkeley.info/MWO. You can also call 981-CITY/2489 or 3-1-1 from a landline in Berkeley)

2) Q:
When does the new Berkeley minimum wage take effect?

A: Beginning October 1, 2014 the minimum wage in Berkeley will be $10.00 per hour; on October 1, 2015 the minimum wage will be $11.00 per hour; on October 1, 2016 the minimum wage in Berkeley will be $12.53 per hour.

3) Q:
Does the Berkeley minimum wage apply to all employers that have employees who perform work in Berkeley?

A: Yes, all employers regardless of where they are located, must pay the Berkeley minimum wage to their employees who perform at least two hours of work in Berkeley.



Your article is from 2 years after they pumped up the minimum wage and 1 year after the second tier of increases.  So, yeah, I do think that the wage increase causede a whole shit load of people to lose their jobs withmany many more to come.  I can't wait to see the automated fry cook and burger flipper.  Gonna be some super cool innovation there.


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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: twighead]
    #23154278 - 04/25/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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It's not going to be as cool as you might think!

They won't be able to do quirky little fast food worker tricks that we all love, like drawing pictures on your pizza box, or subduing the violent ghetto youth that so plague their establishments.

This is your future:







My future?  That was my childhood
http://www.6sqft.com/horn-and-hardart-automats-redefining-lunchtime-dining-on-a-dime/

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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23175620 - 05/01/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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As was pointed out (for about the 10th time), minimum wage has been shown to have no impact on employment because workers today are so underpaid.




The fact that you have quoted the same debunked nonsense ten times does not make it any more accurate.



Empirical evidence was debunked?  I can't wait for you to show us where someone debunked it.  :popcorn:


Apparently the empirical evidence that shows an increase in unemployment due to the minimum wage, which you cited, went over your head.
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At UC Berkeley, departments have all been told to reduce their budgets by 10 percent.  THAT'S the reason for the job cuts.  The $15 minimum wage doesn't take effect until 2022.

Another nice swing and miss though.

http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php



Your article is from 2 years after they pumped up the minimum wage and 1 year after the second tier of increases.  So, yeah, I do think that the wage increase causede a whole shit load of people to lose their jobs withmany many more to come.  I can't wait to see the automated fry cook and burger flipper.  Gonna be some super cool innovation there.



Once again, I can't wait to see your evidence that that Berkeley is losing jobs from the minimum wage.  :popcorn:




Minimum wage goes up.  They lay people off.  Seems pretty evidentiary to me.  If you have to cut the budget you have two choices.  Cut pay rate or cut number of employees.  Because cutting the pay rate is not an option they have to cut employees.


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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23175666 - 05/01/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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if half of the people worked as hard as they "fight for 15" they would earn 15.

if you don't get a raise every 6-12 months, ask for one, if you don't get a performance review. fill out your resume and look elsewhere. or do you secretly know you suck fucking dick and are worthless and need the government to whip your ass for you because of "rich people, the NRA, republicans, racism"

what a bunch of whiny wieners. I would rather make less than 15 than look like one of those idiots with their 15/hr signs.



Exactly right.  If you are in the work force for more than 6 months and are still making minimum wage you are a fucking loser who doesn't deserve more.


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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23175689 - 05/01/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Dude, you can't even support yourself.  I don't think you are much of a threat to anybody in any way.


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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23190897 - 05/05/16 01:33 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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Apparently, you think a 40% increase to the minimum wage which will help about 40% of the country isn't worth a temporary increase of 0.3 in unemployment.  :facepalm:

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Once again, I can't wait to see your evidence that that Berkeley is losing jobs from the minimum wage.  :popcorn:




Minimum wage goes up.  They lay people off.  Seems pretty evidentiary to me.  If you have to cut the budget you have two choices.  Cut pay rate or cut number of employees.  Because cutting the pay rate is not an option they have to cut employees.



Those aren't the only options by a long shot.  You can raise taxes, you can raise tuition, you can cut salaries of people at the top...

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If you are in the work force for more than 6 months and are still making minimum wage you are a fucking loser who doesn't deserve more.



40% of the country makes less than the real 1968 minimum wage, and I can assure you many of those people work their ass off.




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The minimum wage reached its (inflation-adjusted) historic high in 1968, when it was raised from $1.40 to $1.60 per hour. Adjusted for inflation using the BLS online inflation calculator that would come to $10.55 per hour in 2012 dollars.Jul 24, 2012




UC is already raising tuition  http://news.berkeley.edu/2014/11/20/regents-approve-five-year-tuition-hike-plan-for-uc-students/

Raise taxes?  Even more?  California is losing business already because of their taxes. 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/17/editorial-businesses-flee-californias-high-taxes-a/

Helping 40% will hurt 100% in increased prices and another large cohort in total unemployment due to layoffs.


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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23195503 - 05/06/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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California is losing business already because of their taxes. 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/17/editorial-businesses-flee-californias-high-taxes-a/



A few companies left California.  So what?  California is creating new jobs at a faster rate than Texas.






Your chart ends 3 years ago:lolsy:  Your link

"Does this mean California is business-friendly? Of course not,"
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Helping 40% will hurt 100% in increased prices and another large cohort in total unemployment due to layoffs.



Keep talking about them layoffs.  They ain't happening in states with higher minimum wages.




Yeah, they are.  And then there is this.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/06/news/economy/april-jobs-report/

Putrid hiring numbers.  Could it be because of the minimum wage threat?


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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23203343 - 05/08/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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Could it be that threatening to blow up the economy is a tired tactic used by the elite in the face of progress time and time again?

Child labor laws killed jobs, too.



They did?


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