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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: bodhisatta] 2
#23148887 - 04/23/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: no matter who is elected president your life will change 0% unless you make over 6 figures.
If minimum wage were increased from $7.25 to $15, a great many people's lives would change for the better.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: bodhisatta]
#23150038 - 04/24/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: If you think you need 15/hr to fix your life you need to work harder and not try to vote your way to better circumstances.
Working harder for $7.25 isn't going to improve anyone's life except the business owner.
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bodhisatta said: Besides federal minimum wage hikes are historically very racist policy once put into action it hurts niggers most. It hurts Batista's and hipster kids second most.
I'm secretly for a wage hike because I don't like lazy kids. And it will fuck them so hard
Historically, minimum wage hikes have no impact on overall employment. This has been shown ad nauseam here. If you have empirical data backing up your point, please share it.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#23150094 - 04/24/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: If minimum wage were increased from $7.25 to $15, a great many people's lives would change for the better.
And a great many for the worse.
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/uc-berkeley-touts-15-minimum-wage-then-fires-hundreds-of-workers-after-it-passes/
The $15 minimum wage is actually a zero maximum wage for many people.
As was pointed out in the previous post (for about the 10th time), minimum wage has been shown to have no impact on employment because workers today are so underpaid.
At UC Berkeley, departments have all been told to reduce their budgets by 10 percent. THAT'S the reason for the job cuts. The $15 minimum wage doesn't take effect until 2022.
Another nice swing and miss though.
http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: zappaisgod]
#23160186 - 04/27/16 02:50 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: As was pointed out (for about the 10th time), minimum wage has been shown to have no impact on employment because workers today are so underpaid.
The fact that you have quoted the same debunked nonsense ten times does not make it any more accurate.
Empirical evidence was debunked? I can't wait for you to show us where someone debunked it. 
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: At UC Berkeley, departments have all been told to reduce their budgets by 10 percent. THAT'S the reason for the job cuts. The $15 minimum wage doesn't take effect until 2022.
Another nice swing and miss though.
http://www.sfgate.com/education/article/UC-Berkeley-to-eliminate-500-staff-jobs-7244049.php
Your article is from 2 years after they pumped up the minimum wage and 1 year after the second tier of increases. So, yeah, I do think that the wage increase causede a whole shit load of people to lose their jobs withmany many more to come. I can't wait to see the automated fry cook and burger flipper. Gonna be some super cool innovation there.
Once again, I can't wait to see your evidence that that Berkeley is losing jobs from the minimum wage.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: zappaisgod]
#23179759 - 05/02/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: As was pointed out (for about the 10th time), minimum wage has been shown to have no impact on employment because workers today are so underpaid.
The fact that you have quoted the same debunked nonsense ten times does not make it any more accurate.
Empirical evidence was debunked? I can't wait for you to show us where someone debunked it. 
Apparently the empirical evidence that shows an increase in unemployment due to the minimum wage, which you cited, went over your head.
Apparently, you think a 40% increase to the minimum wage which will help about 40% of the country isn't worth a temporary increase of 0.3 in unemployment. 
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Once again, I can't wait to see your evidence that that Berkeley is losing jobs from the minimum wage. 
Minimum wage goes up. They lay people off. Seems pretty evidentiary to me. If you have to cut the budget you have two choices. Cut pay rate or cut number of employees. Because cutting the pay rate is not an option they have to cut employees.
Those aren't the only options by a long shot. You can raise taxes, you can raise tuition, you can cut salaries of people at the top...
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zappaisgod said: If you are in the work force for more than 6 months and are still making minimum wage you are a fucking loser who doesn't deserve more.
40% of the country makes less than the real 1968 minimum wage, and I can assure you many of those people work their ass off.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: MickJamesons]
#23179792 - 05/02/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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MickJamesons said: I just have to chuckle when I see or hear people say that Bernie supporters are the least educated of the candidates. When actually the exact opposite is true. Trump has all the redneck, incestual, racist hate mongors. Most of Sen Sanders supporters are either in Uni or have in the past been in Uni.
Exactly.
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Re: Trump Will Beat Hillary In New York If He Is The Republican Nominee..... [Re: zappaisgod]
#23190958 - 05/05/16 02:20 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: California is losing business already because of their taxes.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/17/editorial-businesses-flee-californias-high-taxes-a/
A few companies left California. So what? California is creating new jobs at a faster rate than Texas.

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zappaisgod said: Helping 40% will hurt 100% in increased prices and another large cohort in total unemployment due to layoffs.
Keep talking about them layoffs. They ain't happening in states with higher minimum wages.
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