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musiclover420
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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: Peteyboy]
#24034455 - 01/23/17 08:22 PM (7 years, 5 days ago) |
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Peteyboy said: Would it be the same amount of time to wait if one was to dose mushies instead of dmt?
It would matter less with mushies as it would just be enhancing them instead of making em active orally. But yes 45-60 min is probably best for most people.
It does seem to vary person to person though so with oral DMT it can take some experimenting to get the timing right from what I have read.
So for some people it might be best to wait 30 min others it could be 90
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Mike4aco
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Do you still get the heavy stomach or body feel with extracted harmalas? Ive only ever brewed plants
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KetBom
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musiclover420 said:
I would recommend starting with purified harmine/harmaline. It is relatively cheap and will allow you to precisely dose.
Start with 50-100mg of just the MAOI to see how it effects you, 200-250 is a typical dose to activate oral dmt.
Make sure you read up on all the safety precautions before using it.
Eat the harmalas at least 30-45 minutes before the dmt.
Thanks, Im more interested in doin it more natural by making a tea with the caapi vine like how they do it in the amazon and whatnot. Feels more "spiritual" ya know. Im reading an ayahuasca recipe and it says to use 50 grams of caapi vine. https://erowid.org/chemicals/ayahuasca/ayahuasca_info9.shtml
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musiclover420
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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: KetBom]
#24034838 - 01/23/17 11:42 PM (7 years, 5 days ago) |
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Mike4aco said: Do you still get the heavy stomach or body feel with extracted harmalas? Ive only ever brewed plants
If you eat too much even pure harmalas will cause nausea. For me this happens in the 300+mg range.
Whenever I ate 100-200mg or so though I never noticed anything. That is why I recommend it over eating rue or brewing caapi, at least initially.
Being able to weigh up a precise dose is very reassuring with something like MAOI's. The potency of rue and caapi can vary greatly from what I have read.
Thanks, Im more interested in doin it more natural by making a tea with the caapi vine like how they do it in the amazon and whatnot. Feels more "spiritual" ya know. Im reading an ayahuasca recipe and it says to use 50 grams of caapi vine. https://erowid.org/chemicals/ayahuasca/ayahuasca_info9.shtml
I feel you, caapi has more magic to it from what I have read. Using standardized extracts is just simpler and safer I would say.
Starting with 50g sounds smart though, even some more potent varieties that wouldn't be too much unless it was some black caapi or something which is rare.
Anyways I hope you have a great time whatever you choose to do!
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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: Mike4aco]
#24034846 - 01/23/17 11:44 PM (7 years, 5 days ago) |
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Mike4aco said: Do you still get the heavy stomach or body feel with extracted harmalas? Ive only ever brewed plants
The extract does feel cleaner, but with a high enough dosage you can still feel a heavy body load and nausea, and can still vomit. But with the Harmala reverse tolerance, one can take extract or the Rue/Caapi and not get nauseous/vomit or have much of a body load, the reverse tolerance cleans things up quite a lot, makes it feel a lot better, and allows you to handle/tolerate stronger Harmala dosages more easily.
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Mike4aco
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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: Sabnock]
#24035194 - 01/24/17 05:45 AM (7 years, 5 days ago) |
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I have added some Caapi copy I extracted to my ayahuasca brew rhea morning. Im taking it with mescaline so I will probably yak anyway. I never seem to get nausea on aya just the dmt brew
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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: Mike4aco]
#24035199 - 01/24/17 05:50 AM (7 years, 5 days ago) |
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my experience with syrian rue seeds (3g) and cubes (4g) was a breath taking experience, i really loved it gonna do it again soon.
the trip lasted nearly 12 hrs, unlike the mushroom on its own which lasts 5 hrs.
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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: oontribe]
#24364423 - 05/31/17 07:25 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bump
Planning on doing 6g shrooms and 3g rue soon.
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BANANA.MAN
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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: oontribe]
#24365100 - 05/31/17 12:08 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh my god thats alot. Good luck
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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: oontribe] 1
#24365239 - 05/31/17 12:56 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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say hi to the white light for me!
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Mike4aco
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I just got a bunch of shrooms I will be doing Psilohuasca with b caapi next monday
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musiclover420
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ShadeOfDeepPurple said: say hi to the white light for me! 
And me! Let us know if you hear any celestial/ angelic voices. I wish I could remember what they said when I blacked out on psilohuasca.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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My go to combination for going as deep as possible is Mushrooms (5-7 grams) and Syrian rue (4 grams) Have done it with P. cubensis with amazing results in the 6-7 gram range however will be lowering my mushroom dosage to about 5 grams for P. subaeruginosa as i found 7 grams to be a bit to much for this combination Will be trying 5 grams of P. subaeruginosa with syrian rue in the coming weeks
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My go to dose when I want to press the button but with harmine.
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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: pineninja] 1
#24366518 - 05/31/17 09:35 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Unfortunately things came up and it was hard for me to trip for 12hrs+ so i dosed 3.5g dried cubensis of my home grown shrooms.
Now i am coming down from the trip and it was AWSOME!!
Alians = 
Even with a site like shroomery, i still think psilocybin is underrated substance.
I don't think we have evolved enough to be able to describe the mushrooms experience.
Gonna wait a couple of weeks and for the right setting to do the 6g shrooms 3g rue trip.
Also i have done a 5g shrooms 3g rue before, but i must say that the 3.5g shrooms and 3g rue was more intense .
Good luck guys, report to us back.
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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: oontribe]
#24366807 - 06/01/17 01:04 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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rue and mushrooms is basically my favorite!
so glad there's a whole 4-page thread devoted to it.
-------------------- Achuma's Psilocybe Extraction Pictorial
Pictured: crystalline extract derived from Psilocybe Cubensis. See link for detailed instructions, as well as a lengthy discussion on the properties of light.
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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: oontribe]
#24368105 - 06/01/17 02:24 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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oontribe said: Even with a site like shroomery, i still think psilocybin is underrated substance.
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I don't think we have evolved enough to be able to describe the mushrooms experience.
Yeah, maybe McKenna slightly but that's about it. He comes closer than anyone I've seen so I guess that's good enough
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oontribe


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Aurora, have you tried psilohuasca before?
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Re: The official psilohuasca thread [Re: oontribe]
#24370640 - 06/02/17 11:21 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nope.
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oontribe


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Highly recommended
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