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OfflineViaggio
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Re: America [Re: Annapurna1]
    #2314346 - 02/08/04 09:26 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

What is it that some of you clam Bin Ladin was correct about?


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OfflineAlan Stone
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Re: America [Re: Effed]
    #2314542 - 02/08/04 10:31 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

My interpretation (if the statement was layered) would be that it looks great from the outside, but inside it's empty and shallow. Then again, I'm biased through the countless crummy sitcoms and soap operas, CNN, and the U.S. government.
On national pride: I don't get it. What makes Americans think they're one people? Other than the same crummy government? Why be proud of a certain area of land and salute its flag? Why be proud of military superiority? Why abandon all reason and critical thought when the president is concerned?


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OfflineViaggio
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Re: America [Re: Alan Stone]
    #2314562 - 02/08/04 10:41 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm...as an American (no heckling please), I find most of my pride springs from the freedoms and way of life we have (compared to the lack thereof in most other nations). For the most part, I'm proud of how our gov't has developed, our decent economy, our diversity...hell, I could go on. My pride does not stem from military superiority, however, I am happy to know that our nation has that support. Anyway, that's off topic. To answer your question of why be proud, I'd say that pride among people produces a sense of unity.

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What is it that some of you clam Bin Ladin was correct about?



I'm still curious about this...


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OfflineViaggio
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Re: America [Re: Viaggio]
    #2314571 - 02/08/04 10:46 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Am I the only proud American member here?  The only one who'll admit it?  I know I can't be...is there indeed more but they're too lazy to reply? :stoned:

OK USA  :thumbup:


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InvisibleTrueBrode
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Re: America [Re: Viaggio]
    #2314594 - 02/08/04 10:54 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not in the least bit proud of being an American. I was born here long after the founding fathers wrote a marvelous document. Long after immigrant labor built the infrastructures of this country. Why should I be proud of something that I had no part in, and that my generation is throwing away because they would rather kill their brain cells five times a week then open a newspaper? I'm not proud of anything, but I do feel lucky and infinitely grateful that I was born into a civilization at its peak, and able to experience amazing things due to the comforts that I have been afforded.


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Re: America [Re: Viaggio]
    #2314610 - 02/08/04 10:59 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I'm proud to be born here in the USA, but I'm disgusted with the leaders currently in place, and don't anybody try to tell me that those leaders are my fault because I'll whip out a fucking shotgun and blow your avatar off. I'm sick of people saying "its your fault - you voted them in."

I sure didn't.

I didn't vote on this system to begin with.. at least I don't remember doing so


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Re: America [Re: TrueBrode]
    #2314622 - 02/08/04 11:00 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

TrueBrode said:
"...but I do feel lucky and infinitely grateful that I was born into a civilization at its peak, and able to experience amazing things due to the comforts that I have been afforded."

Right on, man...I can dig that  :thumbup:


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Re: America [Re: Viaggio]
    #2314773 - 02/08/04 11:50 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

There are many countries that are as free if not free-er :P than the USA, yet these nations do not feel the need to drum this into the psyche of the population.


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Re: America [Re: Effed]
    #2314794 - 02/09/04 12:00 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Well, I'm proud to be an American, regardless of the mistakes we've made. We've done some good, too. But oh no! Let's don't look at that! Let's only look at the ways in which we've fucked up!


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OfflineViaggio
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Re: America [Re: Frog]
    #2314823 - 02/09/04 12:15 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Good point, Frog.  A line comes to mind...

"You can build a thousand bridges in this lifetime, but if you suck just one cock, you're a cock-sucker for the rest of your life." :mad2:

(wish I could remember from what movie)


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Re: America [Re: Viaggio]
    #2314831 - 02/09/04 12:17 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

viaggio said:
"You can build a thousand bridges in this lifetime, but if you suck just one cock, you're a cock-sucker for the rest of your life." :mad2:





:oogle:

(Actually, that's a nice quote.  Rofl!)


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Re: America [Re: Viaggio]
    #2314869 - 02/09/04 12:35 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I never saw taht movie but:

"'You can build a thousand bridges, but suck one cock and for the rest of your life you?re a cocksucker'.
Woody Harrellson
From the movie, 'To The Bone'"


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OfflineViaggio
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Re: America [Re: Strumpling]
    #2314886 - 02/09/04 12:39 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Thanx :smile:


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Re: America [Re: Frog]
    #2315381 - 02/09/04 04:23 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: America [Re: ]
    #2315421 - 02/09/04 04:31 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Well, please elucidate.  Some of us need to have things s-p-e-l-l-e-d out for "her".  :grin:


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Re: America [Re: Frog]
    #2315443 - 02/09/04 04:35 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, I realized the thread steered in a different direction though I'm not sure what was the original intention. I'm interested to know, MM, if you don't mind elaborating.

Also, I'm still curious as to what was meant by "Bin Laden may well have been correct."

Thanks  :thumbup:


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Re: America [Re: ]
    #2315459 - 02/09/04 04:39 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

yeah M_M what's on your mind?

Are you referring to how America looks great on the outside, and when you get here it still looks great and you get sucked right into the party, unless you're born here as an "insider?"


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Re: America [Re: Frog]
    #2315471 - 02/09/04 04:40 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: America [Re: ]
    #2315487 - 02/09/04 04:44 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

For the record: most of us outside the US of A don't really have any beef with Americans.

It's your government that we hate.


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Re: America [Re: ]
    #2315495 - 02/09/04 04:45 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Understandable, my friend.


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