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OfflineMyFunGuy420
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Smartattack]
    #27413271 - 08/03/21 07:08 PM (2 months, 18 days ago)

Too early or too hard to see?


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: MyFunGuy420]
    #27413273 - 08/03/21 07:09 PM (2 months, 18 days ago)

Both. Let it grow out a little more.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: BrownBear]
    #27413308 - 08/03/21 07:30 PM (2 months, 18 days ago)

10-4 I can handle that


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: MyFunGuy420]
    #27414672 - 08/04/21 09:01 PM (2 months, 17 days ago)

Okay. So I came in here 2 weeks ago because of a North Spore recommended Monotub technique. That tek included laying down an inch of Coco Coir over my top colonized layer. (There is colonized mycelium grains layered with sterile horse manure throughoutthe 60QT tub, and Coco Coir on top).

Some in here have essentially said the step wasn't necessary, and could be considered a casing layer. (Koh Samui is the strain being used).

Regardless of my following the tek in perfect detail, there was no growth after 2 weeks coming up through the Coco Coir.

So I sterilized kitchen utensils and carefully removed the most I could of the inch thick Coir without disturbing the mycelium layer underneath. Places where I did disturb it still appeared healthy and white.

Then overnight some mycelium pushed through to the surface, and some has a blue tint to it.

Everything still smells good, and I've had perfect Temps, FAE, 12/12 light and humidity. Is it possible that the mycelium simply has some slight bruising, and is not a contaminate?

Pics included are:

1st: The tub before carefully removing an excess inch of Coco Coir



2nd: The tub after removing Coir



3rd: A spot in the tub where mycelium surfaced overnight and has a bluish tint, I used a high quality camera for this picture which brought out more blue than is actually visible to the naked eye. Hj



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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: ORCALISTA1111]
    #27414726 - 08/04/21 09:52 PM (2 months, 17 days ago)

That looks green and way too wet.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: ORCALISTA1111]
    #27414777 - 08/04/21 10:39 PM (2 months, 17 days ago)

Looks like
Mold

A type that I get often


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kuda1988]
    #27414912 - 08/05/21 01:27 AM (2 months, 17 days ago)

Sorry for your loss. You could try removing the whole top layer. (You don't need sterile utensils for this.) Otherwise it's toast. Some will tell you the mold must have come from the spawn so it's impossible to remedy, but my experience says air quality is a bigger factor, so long as the spawn isn't terrible.

Next time use less water. I like to squeeze it not have any water run out, but most people like to add more water so squeezing gives a few drops and squeezing really hard makes a brief rivulet of water come out. The more coir you use, the less wet it needs to be. The baseline standard ratio of coir is 2 quarts for every every (not full) quart of spawn.


Edited by gone-pear-shaped (08/05/21 01:31 AM)


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: BrownBear]
    #27414919 - 08/05/21 01:44 AM (2 months, 17 days ago)

It already has turned from bluish to blue green in just a couple of hours. So you'd say get all of the top layer and not just remove the bad spot?


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: ORCALISTA1111]
    #27414921 - 08/05/21 01:53 AM (2 months, 17 days ago)

Well, suggestions? Remove the entire top layer or just the contaminated area?

It changed fast from slightly blue to bluish green.






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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: gone-pear-shaped]
    #27414922 - 08/05/21 01:55 AM (2 months, 17 days ago)

Thank you. There are 3 layers so it's hopefully not an entire loss. Missing windows of opportunity also suck...


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: ORCALISTA1111]
    #27415142 - 08/05/21 10:16 AM (2 months, 17 days ago)

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unfortunately that's trich, get rid of it, try getting ur coir to field capacity to avoid excess moisture which can cause mold
also if you don't see growth for 2 weeks, something is wrong you should see some myc poking through the sub (if cased) in a couple days


Edited by monkey_accident (08/05/21 10:19 AM)


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: ORCALISTA1111]
    #27415144 - 08/05/21 10:18 AM (2 months, 17 days ago)

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Well, suggestions? Remove the entire top layer or just the contaminated area?

It changed fast from slightly blue to bluish green.









That's a goner imo. Ditch it before it goes nuts and contaminates your whole grow space.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: coversall]
    #27417388 - 08/06/21 09:52 PM (2 months, 15 days ago)

It turned bad fast... so time for some hypotheticals.

1. I live in the Part of the USA where the strongest mushrooms ever were discovered. Is it worth experimenting on taking the contents of this tub and dumping it in the woods, and seeing what the spot looks like in a year?

2. If I had immediately ceased with this tub before it exploded with contamination, since there were several layers of colonized mycelium and poo, could I have safely removed a square chunk and transferred it to an entire new tub and grow area and seen what happened with it?


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: ORCALISTA1111]
    #27417394 - 08/06/21 09:55 PM (2 months, 15 days ago)

removing a section of contamination doesn't really fix much from what I've seen, it's interlaced within your whole sub at that point
people like to bury their spent/contamed subs outdoors you can get some outdoor mush from them


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: ORCALISTA1111]
    #27417637 - 08/07/21 01:17 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

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It turned bad fast... so time for some hypotheticals.

1. I live in the Part of the USA where the strongest mushrooms ever were discovered. Is it worth experimenting on taking the contents of this tub and dumping it in the woods, and seeing what the spot looks like in a year?

2. If I had immediately ceased with this tub before it exploded with contamination, since there were several layers of colonized mycelium and poo, could I have safely removed a square chunk and transferred it to an entire new tub and grow area and seen what happened with it?



I took a ton of my old sub and buried it under some soil and just watered it. Got HUGE mushrooms off it! I like in Northern California and it was hot as shit but still produced. I say go for it


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: ORCALISTA1111]
    #27417720 - 08/07/21 03:56 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

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2. If I had immediately ceased with this tub before it exploded with contamination, since there were several layers of colonized mycelium and poo, could I have safely removed a square chunk and transferred it to an entire new tub and grow area and seen what happened with it?



It's bizarre to get mold on a top layer so quickly, so we can't really know where it came from. I speculated that if you removed the entire top layer immediately (spores first, then mold mycelia, then all the rest), you might have some chance of getting rid of the mold. But it would have been a long shot since mold is so contagious.

But yeah, bury it! But if it's in the woods, you probably won't come across it at the exact time it's flushing.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: gone-pear-shaped]
    #27417732 - 08/07/21 04:32 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

Any clue what is going on here, it looks like the stem has protruded through the cap.  There's quite a few in the top with this in this particular tub.



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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Ochronosis]
    #27417743 - 08/07/21 05:07 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

Those are mutants. I've never seen it myself, but it happens sometimes.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: gone-pear-shaped]
    #27417753 - 08/07/21 05:21 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

Hi ! So this time i see a lot of white foam on top of my shrooms . maybe you could check out the picture if you see anything unusual.





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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: laruz]
    #27417786 - 08/07/21 07:04 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

That's myc growing off the caps. Not contamination.


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