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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: WyoMX]
    #27268821 - 03/25/21 02:25 PM (9 months, 23 days ago)

650g coco brick, 8 cups verm, 1 cup gypsum, 18cups water.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27269330 - 03/25/21 09:10 PM (9 months, 23 days ago)

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I see. Thank you for your answer. Bummer...

What about the shrooms that have emerged? Avoid harvesting and consuming them? Just throw away the whole substrate as is?

What about burying outside under conpost? This is only possible for cakes that havent fruited?

Sorry for the many questions!



Let the tub fruit, the mushrooms will be fine.
If it's all you have then let it run it's course and get something out of it.




Not worth doing IMO, but if you do decide to try and let those fruits mature, I'd use the search to look up ways to "delay trich".  Try to keep your movements slow, do NOT fan that tub, act as if you're in a SAB when harvesting. Try your best to not spread those trich spores. That's why I'd advise against trying to bury it or handle it in any way. Treat that shit like hazardous waste. :2cents:


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: alex6969]
    #27269335 - 03/25/21 09:15 PM (9 months, 23 days ago)

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650g coco brick, 8 cups verm, 1 cup gypsum, 18cups water.



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i set the room temp to 23degree, 1:1 ratio coco coir mix vermiculite, it was very fast colonizing in the jar, but after going into the bin. it was so slow.




How did you prep your substrate?


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: CapMeh]
    #27269603 - 03/26/21 02:17 AM (9 months, 23 days ago)

I put the coco, verm, gyp mix into the bucket, then boil to water and pour in, seal the lid and use after 3 hours. did some mixing afterward to make sure is even. then check for field capacity.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: alex6969]
    #27270725 - 03/26/21 08:31 PM (9 months, 22 days ago)

Sounds kosher to me. How many days since spawning? and at about what % of the substrate is colonized? did you mix the spawn and the sub?


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: CapMeh]
    #27272640 - 03/28/21 07:27 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

What do you guys think of these? I just put them in the fruting chamber. They had a hint of the sour apple smell when I took them out from 72h of darkness, probably because there was some uncolonized subtrate in the mix. Should not have done that, i know.
Substrate is rice and verm, casing is verm.




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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: berserkr]
    #27272666 - 03/28/21 07:57 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

Can't click on the pic, you loaded up here on the site?
Try to edit.
Colonization in darkness isn't needed by the way,
hope you didn't seal up in a bag also.

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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Goatrider]
    #27272673 - 03/28/21 08:07 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

Thanks, edited. No i used foil, maybe as bad? I skip the colonize in darkness step next time 🙂


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: berserkr]
    #27272778 - 03/28/21 10:19 AM (9 months, 20 days ago)

No wrapping in foil, no colonizing in darkness.
Be careful with alu trays, mycelium can eat through them :wink:
Can't tell much because we just see verm, and some myc peeps through.

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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: berserkr]
    #27273037 - 03/28/21 01:55 PM (9 months, 20 days ago)

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What do you guys think of these? I just put them in the fruting chamber. They had a hint of the sour apple smell when I took them out from 72h of darkness, probably because there was some uncolonized subtrate in the mix. Should not have done that, i know.
Substrate is rice and verm, casing is verm.




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Do you mean you spawned rice to straight verm substrate? Or did you make a substrate of rice flour and verm that you then spawned to? I'm not 100% positive but the sweet smell usually means bacteria, and I don't believe you're suppose to use rice in a substrate.. You should use verm and coir or just coir instead.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: CapMeh]
    #27273643 - 03/28/21 09:59 PM (9 months, 20 days ago)

started feb 25th-march 3rd grain spawn, 100% colonize. then mixed together with the coco mix on the 3rd until 28th now. there is only like 40% white on the top of the tub.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: CapMeh]
    #27273907 - 03/29/21 04:54 AM (9 months, 20 days ago)

I used brown rice, rye flour and verm as substrate. Not a very good substrate, or maybe I had bad luck because I had to throw away the first batch for the same reson, bacillus, even though I waited 4 days after the jars looked completely colonized. Yes the sour apple smell seems to be bacillus, but it was just a hint this time, the first batch stank.
Anyway, I think the mycilium won this time cause the smell is gone and the mycilium grows.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: berserkr]
    #27273931 - 03/29/21 06:13 AM (9 months, 20 days ago)

Don`t rely on good smell.
Contams can be (and often are) surrounded by mycelium,
so you`ll smell pure mushroom.
Contams wait inside to strike in the meantime.
There are even contams that don`t smell at all, so be careful judging by nose :wink:

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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Goatrider]
    #27274017 - 03/29/21 08:42 AM (9 months, 19 days ago)

Ok thanks, I'll keep my eyes on them. They smelled and looked good when I took them out of the jars though.

Edit: I have a third backup that I'll put in colonization tomorrow in another chamber, I'll take your advice on wrapping and darkness on that one 🙂


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: alex6969]
    #27274813 - 03/29/21 07:54 PM (9 months, 19 days ago)

I hope you pressure cooked that substrate at least. I'd advise against making such a nutrient rich substrate. I'd be surprised if they don't contam every time. Just go pure coir or verm/coir. Then again it's possible I'm missing something.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: CapMeh]
    #27275208 - 03/30/21 03:12 AM (9 months, 19 days ago)

Yes pressure cooked of course, it was a common substrate, at least here in Sweden, but it's sensitive to mold.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: berserkr]
    #27276114 - 03/30/21 08:11 PM (9 months, 18 days ago)

Oh shit I see. Haha does that make your name a Clerks reference? If so hell yeah! I can see how it would be sensitive to mold. Do pet stores in your area carry compressed coconut coir bricks? Or maybe marijuana grow stores? I'm ignorant to what Sweden has going on. Anyways, I'd try to get some coir brotha!


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: CapMeh]
    #27281926 - 04/25/21 10:06 PM (8 months, 23 days ago)

Hey guys,
Having a bit of bright green growth on a couple colonizing bins.
Bulk substrate is hpoo and coco, pasteurized. About 2.5 weeks in.
It's a very bright green color; which I haven't seen in any trich examples.
Thoughts?





Sorry about the toaster quality.
Thank you for any suggestions!


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Uc19hup9]
    #27281960 - 04/25/21 10:58 PM (8 months, 23 days ago)

Definitely not like any trichoderma I've seen. Are you sure it isn't yellow? Take a pic with the lid off?

Either way, it's a mold contamination and it should be thrown out. Sorry m8


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: tiptrippy]
    #27282878 - 04/26/21 05:54 PM (8 months, 22 days ago)

I would probably skip the hpoo and just use coir. You have a way higher chance of getting contamination with that. coir can provide the perfect substrate if you have clean spawn and good genetics


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