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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: ShroomBoomBoomBoom]
    #27182999 - 02/02/21 04:16 PM (11 months, 8 days ago)

Yeah I'm stumped, we need a TC to chime in. The agar looks good to my eyes, the fully colonized jar reflects the type of growth you're getting in your tubs. Super vigorous, reaching up the sides of the tubs, which does not seem normal. There's got to be a hidden contam coming from somewhere. Are you pressure cooking 90min @ 15psi?


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: CapMeh]
    #27183059 - 02/02/21 04:51 PM (11 months, 8 days ago)

I'm curious about the PCing too


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: ShroomBoomBoomBoom]
    #27183074 - 02/02/21 05:02 PM (11 months, 8 days ago)

We actually switched from 90 min at 15 PSI up to 120 min at 15 PSI between batches. Very well could be our oat prep somehow.

I bought some rye berries so I will be experimenting with that in the coming days too to maybe see if it makes a difference.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: cutie]
    #27183100 - 02/02/21 05:17 PM (11 months, 8 days ago)

Hello everyone

I just reached the stage, where I can harvest my mushrooms. I've been on the fence if my cakes are contaminated or not. I decided to keep going, because a lot of people said it could just be tomatose and bruising, because I've overmisted quite a bit and put them next to a radiator because I thought they are too moist (yes, I panicked)

So here are the pictures of my harvested mushrooms and the cakes after I cut the stems. I've noticed this white fluffy stuff all around the base of the stems (is this more tomatose?)

Also got some weird discoloration/growth on one end of the cake.

If everyone could take a good look and tell me what they think, I would be eternally grateful.



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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: cutie]
    #27183942 - 02/03/21 06:23 AM (11 months, 7 days ago)

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We actually switched from 90 min at 15 PSI up to 120 min at 15 PSI between batches. Very well could be our oat prep somehow.

I bought some rye berries so I will be experimenting with that in the coming days too to maybe see if it makes a difference.



You don't happen to be missing the part where the PC has to vent for 10 minutes before putting the weight on?


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Inthepit]
    #27184246 - 02/03/21 12:02 PM (11 months, 7 days ago)

I make sure that when I see steam come out of the vent, I wait 10 minutes before putting the weight in. Then, when it gets to 15, I start the timer. I used to just take off the weight to remove the pressure then realized that was dangerous so now I just turn the burner off and let it slowly go down for like 20 minutes.

More jars (from agar wedge, you can see it) so someone can determine maybe I’m not even growing mushroom myc:




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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: cutie]
    #27184266 - 02/03/21 12:27 PM (11 months, 7 days ago)

When did you drop that agar? Wondering if it is growing on the grains as fast as it was colonizing the sub. Shit looks legit to me, but I'm no TC.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: ShroomBoomBoomBoom]
    #27184269 - 02/03/21 12:32 PM (11 months, 7 days ago)

I think the jar growth progresses normally. Takes about a week to get 60-80% colonization, then I shake, and around 4 days later it’s back to 100%. I’ve only gone through a few jars at this point. My other ones that colonized all the way to the lid are just sitting until I test out fruiting a new strain, no point in just growing more blobs


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: cutie]
    #27185002 - 02/03/21 08:24 PM (11 months, 7 days ago)



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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: CapMeh]
    #27185410 - 02/04/21 01:00 AM (11 months, 7 days ago)

Used some agar to grain. Cant smell enything, after few days it should be 100% . Will try to do shoebox.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kizzle]
    #27185843 - 02/04/21 10:58 AM (11 months, 6 days ago)

Hey guys, haven’t been on here in a long time.

I’ve got some broke boi jars going right now and I think they might have a bacterial contam.

Two jars were very stalled around 50% and started to look slimey. When I shook them up they were super slimey with brownish streaks.



They smelt a bit sour and rotten so I dumped them.

Three of my other jars are stalled around 95% with small spots that haven’t colonized over the last week or so.



I’m worried that the small spots are contam as well. Is there any way to salvage them? Should I shake them?

I did up some smaller jars in the same batch and they colonized just fine and finished up sooner. I used one of those to do G2G so hopefully that spawn is clean.

Any advice is appreciated!


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: CapMeh]
    #27186300 - 02/04/21 03:31 PM (11 months, 6 days ago)

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I found something for youuuuu
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25285696#25285696





So it’s that “wet bubble” fungus? I found that thread before but it didn’t really give me any conclusive answers, did he derive that it came from his spore print?. I don’t seem to be finding it as a common thing.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: cutie]
    #27186928 - 02/04/21 08:41 PM (11 months, 6 days ago)

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JackExo said:
Hey guys, haven’t been on here in a long time.

I’ve got some broke boi jars going right now and I think they might have a bacterial contam.

Two jars were very stalled around 50% and started to look slimey. When I shook them up they were super slimey with brownish streaks.



They smelt a bit sour and rotten so I dumped them.

Three of my other jars are stalled around 95% with small spots that haven’t colonized over the last week or so.



I’m worried that the small spots are contam as well. Is there any way to salvage them? Should I shake them?

I did up some smaller jars in the same batch and they colonized just fine and finished up sooner. I used one of those to do G2G so hopefully that spawn is clean.

Any advice is appreciated!




Definitely contamed and damned my friend I'm sorry to say. Looks like bacteria or maybe yeast. What sorta grain are you using? I hope your other jars go well!


I mean, you should have said that in the first post. I'm not a TC, I'm a noob just trying to learn and help at the same time :shrug:
Did you read the complete thread? I wish you luck!
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CapMeh said:
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I found something for youuuuu
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25285696#25285696





So it’s that “wet bubble” fungus? I found that thread before but it didn’t really give me any conclusive answers, did he derive that it came from his spore print?. I don’t seem to be finding it as a common thing.




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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: CapMeh]
    #27186972 - 02/04/21 09:16 PM (11 months, 6 days ago)

Yeah I’ve read that thread a few times. All I know to do is start over and keep this shit far away from where the rest of my stuff is


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: cutie]
    #27192711 - 02/08/21 12:16 AM (11 months, 3 days ago)

This looks strange, there are some grains yalow like color. Grain is to dry , colonization was long started 2021.01.13 .Should I use bulk or try to grow in covered jar?


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: CapMeh]
    #27193346 - 02/08/21 11:39 AM (11 months, 2 days ago)

Sorry for the late reply!

The jars are still stalled in the same way but I might try to scoop out what I can and ditch the slimy bits. Toss the 3 iffy jars into a tub together and see what happens.

I used the Broke Boi Tek for these jars so it’s brown rice. I think the issue was too much moisture.

So far all the new g2g jars are looking good though!!


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: JackExo]
    #27196775 - 02/10/21 07:08 AM (11 months, 22 hours ago)

https://imgur.com/a/bZM6HrF/

The section when I first noticed: http://www.imgur.com/a/x0vz0iF


This section of tub started growing a wispy, greyish mycelium.

It looks different than the other myc. Last pic is the “regular” myc of the tub.

Could it be trich?

Thanks


Edited by blo0mz (02/10/21 07:40 AM)


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: blo0mz]
    #27196845 - 02/10/21 08:37 AM (11 months, 21 hours ago)

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blo0mz said:
https://imgur.com/a/bZM6HrF/

The section when I first noticed: http://www.imgur.com/a/x0vz0iF

It looks like contamination, had same looking tub... All went green after some time.


This section of tub started growing a wispy, greyish mycelium.

It looks different than the other myc. Last pic is the “regular” myc of the tub.

Could it be trich?

Thanks




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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Ras_Irie]
    #27197365 - 02/10/21 02:57 PM (11 months, 14 hours ago)

Hello to the family!

Should I toss them? Or wait a bit longer?



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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Chrysanthos]
    #27197836 - 02/10/21 07:28 PM (11 months, 10 hours ago)

Hard to tell with the flash on those containers but the first and last picture if thats black and not just pushed against the container it doesn't look to good. How long since inoculation? It looks like theres a little myc activity but not a ton.


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