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Re: Red spots on mycelium? [Re: Igloomis]
    #26860665 - 08/03/20 01:57 PM (1 month, 15 days ago)

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Genetics?




I'd say no, because from the same spores in a different tube with more FAE and without this red thing they ended up more normal looking (no crooked stems, no upside down heads)


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Re: Red spots on mycelium? [Re: migrant mutant] * 1
    #26860687 - 08/03/20 02:12 PM (1 month, 15 days ago)

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Genetics?




I'd say no, because from the same spores in a different tube with more FAE and without this red thing they ended up more normal looking (no crooked stems, no upside down heads)




This makes about as much sense as saying that if two people had 24 kids all the kids would be identical because their from the same genetic lineage.


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Re: Red spots on mycelium? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26860823 - 08/03/20 03:00 PM (1 month, 15 days ago)

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This makes about as much sense as saying that if two people had 24 kids all the kids would be identical because their from the same genetic lineage.




Fair point, although I'd expect all the kids to have somewhat similar facial features.

About the original question, any idea what those red spots might be?


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Re: Red spots on mycelium? [Re: migrant mutant]
    #26860856 - 08/03/20 03:12 PM (1 month, 15 days ago)

Those spots? Nothing good. Likely mold but if it’s just red metabolites it’s not much better.


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Re: Red spots on mycelium? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26860988 - 08/03/20 04:22 PM (1 month, 15 days ago)

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Those spots? Nothing good. Likely mold but if it’s just red metabolites it’s not much better.




I see, thank you for the answer!


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: bare.whiterabbit]
    #26861104 - 08/03/20 05:18 PM (1 month, 15 days ago)

sorry bro was very busy!! i dont forget it..its in the making :smile: seems you blocked me in PM? you will get it promise. no popo bro :laugh:



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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: kassel88]
    #26861138 - 08/03/20 05:43 PM (1 month, 15 days ago)

Is this bacteria? Should I spawn these anyway?





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Re: This is a new one to me [Re: CrashTest]
    #26861326 - 08/03/20 07:50 PM (1 month, 15 days ago)

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In nature, mycelium coexists with bacteria and molds, and good bacteria will protect the colony. Everything in nature balances out



Which I probably killed by sterilizing the coir.


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Re: This is a new one to me [Re: Igloomis]
    #26861333 - 08/03/20 07:53 PM (1 month, 15 days ago)

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In nature, mycelium coexists with bacteria and molds, and good bacteria will protect the colony. Everything in nature balances out



Which I probably killed by sterilizing the coir.




Growing indoors is not the same as grown in nature though, it’s hard to replicate the conditions inside, that’s why we sterilize our substrate


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Re: This is a new one to me [Re: CrashTest]
    #26861737 - 08/04/20 12:11 AM (1 month, 14 days ago)

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In nature, mycelium coexists with bacteria and molds, and good bacteria will protect the colony. Everything in nature balances out



Which I probably killed by sterilizing the coir.




Growing indoors is not the same as grown in nature though, it’s hard to replicate the conditions inside, that’s why we sterilize our substrate



In the past (using manure/coir/vermiculite) I have always pasteurized but never sterilized. This time I'm using Bod's coir-only tek. I did the bucket-and-boiling-water prep for one tub but sterilized the coir for a second tub. That's the one that developed mold, which makes me wonder if there might be useful microbes hanging out in the unsterilized coir. Or maybe it's demons or something. Yeah, definitely demons.


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Re: This is a new one to me [Re: Igloomis]
    #26862201 - 08/04/20 10:42 AM (1 month, 14 days ago)

Coir is resilient as fuck.
I have a 32L box where I put 4.5kg coir block. dunno how much water but I poured a few kettles full and a 5-7l pot of boiling water in several times mixing and crumbling it up each time more and more.
I used a bit of it next day and then after 2 weeks I made a few shoe boxes.
still good.
if its something like straw I would pasteurize/sterilize it
hpoo is rather valuable in microbes so pasteurizing it is the way I think.
it's mostly spawn is what goes wrong. atleast in my experience.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Luminous7]
    #26862207 - 08/04/20 10:45 AM (1 month, 14 days ago)

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Is this bacteria? Should I spawn these anyway?







I think you could get away with something from that, but chances are it's a waste of time. if theres too much metabs I would dig it into the soil outside.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: F. 3]
    #26862344 - 08/04/20 11:59 AM (1 month, 14 days ago)

Might have something else in that jar. In the first pic I see some grainy looking myc. Might be ...mold!
:panic:

Only one way to know for sure!


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: mushboy]
    #26865404 - 08/05/20 10:06 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

I spawned some in a smaller tub and put some in my ganja plant pots.

Its prob a waste of time to use your right. Ive been having so many contams lately.

Question, If i have plates that are like 3 plus months old and still look fine, ( hydrated and clean, maybe some pins but pretty healthy )

Is it likely they are weak, and or contaminated somehow from being around to long?

I have been trying to use up all my older plates some of which were like4 months old, and Iv been having a lot of contamed tubs. Everything looked fine, jars colonised quick and healthy looking, but then right around first flush BOOM a fuck spot of mold .


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: F. 3]
    #26865412 - 08/05/20 10:10 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

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Might have something else in that jar. In the first pic I see some grainy looking myc. Might be ...mold!
:panic:

Only one way to know for sure!



You might be seeing the adhesive from a sticker on the outside of the jar.

I spawned it, well see. Fuck it.

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I think you could get away with something from that, but chances are it's a waste of time. if theres too much metabs I would dig it into the soil outside.




Ive actually been having problems with a rat in my garden digging up spent cakes and grains. They love the grains apparently and have been relentless. Kinda sucks cause I love getting some Jumbo fruits when it rains in the garden but I have to discontinue, Ill toss some questionable jars in my ganja tree pots though once in a while. :peace:


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Luminous7]
    #26865711 - 08/06/20 02:53 AM (1 month, 12 days ago)

I know how that feels, been having similar problems with rats and contams myself lately and I'm in a confused state of being. :lol:
I've got an ozone generator and it sort of does the job, supposedly kills mold and such, air at least smells like electrocution after a session. if you can get a hand on one, run it for 2-3h in the workplace.



Can't say if it will work with the plates, but if they colonize and are clean it should work. Make shoe boxes if you haven't already, by far the best option to spend a qt jar.
Unless you do invitro, may be a better chance to get away without contams. Not tried it, dunno.



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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: F. 3]
    #26866368 - 08/06/20 01:59 PM (1 month, 12 days ago)

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I know how that feels, been having similar problems with rats and contams myself lately and I'm in a confused state of being. :lol:
I've got an ozone generator and it sort of does the job, supposedly kills mold and such, air at least smells like electrocution after a session. if you can get a hand on one, run it for 2-3h in the workplace.



Can't say if it will work with the plates, but if they colonize and are clean it should work. Make shoe boxes if you haven't already, by far the best option to spend a qt jar.
Unless you do invitro, may be a better chance to get away without contams. Not tried it, dunno.





You run the ozone generator in the lab or in the fruiting area?

Very Cool this is new to me, and seems much cheaper than a hepa, ( which i still cant quite accomodate financially or space wise.)

Im looking at them on amazon, seems affordable and small.

Thanks for mentioning that, i might rock in in my disgusting "lab" .

I do all my work in 1 room, with a cat who lives in here full time, litter box just feet away from fruiting chambers, a grow space with lights for cactus and various plants :laugh: Im suprised I get any success! LOL :peace:


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Luminous7]
    #26866370 - 08/06/20 02:00 PM (1 month, 12 days ago)

I just read this .

" An ozone generator is a device designed to produce the gas ozone. Ozone is used effectively in water purification, but ozone in air must reach high levels to remove air pollutants. Health experts warn that it is important to control conditions to ensure that no person or pet becomes exposed to high levels of ozone. "

So I dont know if I want to be breathing ozone apparently?


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Luminous7]
    #26866918 - 08/06/20 07:32 PM (1 month, 12 days ago)

Though I'd post some pictures of a recent contamination of what I believe is Aspergillus niger



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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: CosmicShaman]
    #26867653 - 08/07/20 07:05 AM (1 month, 11 days ago)

Hello, i reconised a sour Smell coming from my Bags. I using Coco Coir and Rye together and Shooting the Spore Syringe 6 days ago in the 3 bags but i couldn't see the Mycelium Growing maybe it takes longer but i am worry that any mold will coming :frown: i growing some oyster mushrooms 3 years ago was a Awesome experience but magic mushroom seems litte diffrent but i never try Coco coir for mycelium Growing maybe that's the problem but it is so Airy that it's maybe perfect for that?





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