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OfflineMango wayside
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination *DELETED* [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28523300 - 10/30/23 11:29 AM (2 months, 27 days ago)

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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Mango wayside] * 3
    #28523610 - 10/30/23 04:16 PM (2 months, 27 days ago)

That all looks like mold to me.


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OfflineNichrome
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Mango wayside]
    #28523883 - 10/30/23 08:26 PM (2 months, 27 days ago)

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Mango wayside said:
First timer here, used LC to popcorn bags about 4 weeks ago. Break and shake twice in that time frame but one bag seems to be mostly stalled and the other bag is turning kind of grey....


Is this contam or just overly wet popcorn degrading a bit because i waited too long? No signs of myc piss.


Bag 1:



Bag 2:




That's all bad sorry.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Nichrome]
    #28524360 - 10/31/23 08:29 AM (2 months, 27 days ago)

Like most NWBs I’m battling the mean green. My tubs get fully colonized with beautiful white and then the green shows up usually with the first pins…one time on the cut bases of my first harvest.
My question is, what is the likely culprit with this timing?
I have monitored humidity and keep it around 85% with temps between 75-82. I have a grow chamber, but it shows up both inside and outside.
(Both of the tubs in the photos were lost to green mold after these photos)





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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Zen_Anarchy]
    #28524364 - 10/31/23 08:35 AM (2 months, 27 days ago)

It's probably your spawn. Got any pics of your jars or bags?


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InvisibleZen_Anarchy
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Bigworm]
    #28524396 - 10/31/23 09:12 AM (2 months, 26 days ago)

Could be, I’ve been working on some issues there…too much moisture, not enough and have had a low success rate (they have been fermenting)
But I’ve built a flow hood, use only new needles and skipped the break and shake on the last ones and they look the best so far.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Zen_Anarchy] * 2
    #28524445 - 10/31/23 10:17 AM (2 months, 26 days ago)

Your spawn is definitely the problem. 

Read the first sticky on this forum.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Zen_Anarchy]
    #28524497 - 10/31/23 11:07 AM (2 months, 26 days ago)

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Zen_Anarchy said:
Could be, I’ve been working on some issues there…too much moisture, not enough and have had a low success rate (they have been fermenting)
But I’ve built a flow hood, use only new needles and skipped the break and shake on the last ones and they look the best so far.




If you are using the ub tek I'm guessing you aren't cleaning cultures on agar yet either. (sorry if I'm assuming incorrectly). If you are doing spore to grain, that's where you can stop your search for where it went wrong. They have a ton of moisture, which is a sign of contamination.


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OfflineNichrome
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Bigworm] * 1
    #28524500 - 10/31/23 11:09 AM (2 months, 26 days ago)

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Bigworm said:
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Zen_Anarchy said:
Could be, I’ve been working on some issues there…too much moisture, not enough and have had a low success rate (they have been fermenting)
But I’ve built a flow hood, use only new needles and skipped the break and shake on the last ones and they look the best so far.




If you are using the ub tek I'm guessing you aren't cleaning cultures on agar yet either. (sorry if I'm assuming incorrectly). If you are doing spore to grain, that's where you can stop your search for where it went wrong. They have a ton of moisture, which is a sign of contamination.



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InvisibleZen_Anarchy
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Nichrome]
    #28524531 - 10/31/23 11:45 AM (2 months, 26 days ago)

I’ve had the same luck with both liquid culture and spore syringes from 2 vendors (ITW & MWG)
I use .5cc and have switched to a hole puncher to increase ventilation.
(I REALLY appreciate the help all) :thumbup:


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Zen_Anarchy]
    #28524662 - 10/31/23 02:08 PM (2 months, 26 days ago)

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Zen_Anarchy said:
But I’ve built a flow hood




how did you build this? unless you got some insane deals on the components, anything that didn’t cost you at least $400 is probably not a legit hood & is only going to keep causing you failures.

sounds like you’re willing to learn & jump right into things, i highly recommend you look into using agar & working from spore prints. you’re gonna see 1000x better results from that than you will with what you’re currently doing & it will honestly save you time to start sooner rather than later


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kizzle]
    #28524671 - 10/31/23 02:21 PM (2 months, 26 days ago)

This is my first grow (I went with the bag method), and I have some contamination concerns. I was hoping someone here might be able to tell me what is going on/what to do. The cake has produced fruit, but, a few nights ago, I accidentally left my heating pad on at way too high of a temperature and "cooked" the bottom part of the substrate in the bag for about a day. I noticed this error and readjusted the temperature. Now, the rest of the bag's mycelium appeared, and still appears, to be fine, but the bottom became discolored; and, a couple days later, these pink streaks appeared. I was unable to find an example of this online anywhere that matched what I was experiencing (maybe fusarium?). What exactly is this contamination? What should I do in this circumstance? If I need to toss the cake, is it ok for me to harvest the fruit that has already grown? Also, if I need to toss the cake, should I bury it, or should I just get rid of it altogether?






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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: littlebigman] * 1
    #28524672 - 10/31/23 02:22 PM (2 months, 26 days ago)

That belongs in the garbage


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: milkboy]
    #28524680 - 10/31/23 02:28 PM (2 months, 26 days ago)

I figured. Could you elaborate a little bit? If the fruit looks fine, should I harvest them? And should I bury the cake, or just pitch it straight into the trash?


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: littlebigman] * 1
    #28524683 - 10/31/23 02:30 PM (2 months, 26 days ago)

if the fruits look ok & you should be safe to harvest them, but yeah the tub is fucked. any time you see contam like that, it’s pretty much game over. don’t know exactly what it is but i know it means your sub is dying quick


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: hazyhorse]
    #28524690 - 10/31/23 02:42 PM (2 months, 26 days ago)

Ok. Thank you for your input. Do you think that I should bury the substrate? Or do you think that that is even worth the trouble in this instance?


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: littlebigman]
    #28524702 - 10/31/23 03:02 PM (2 months, 26 days ago)

idk, i’ve never really buried any subs. if you’re ok with digging a hole for potentially no reason i don’t see what you have to lose by burying it


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: littlebigman] * 1
    #28524703 - 10/31/23 03:04 PM (2 months, 26 days ago)

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littlebigman said:
Ok. Thank you for your input. Do you think that I should bury the substrate? Or do you think that that is even worth the trouble in this instance?




I'd say it's worth a trip out back to bury them. Pretty good chance you'll notice some shrooms popping up in the future, especially if it's already producing.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Nichrome]
    #28524713 - 10/31/23 03:13 PM (2 months, 26 days ago)



I guess this is evidence that gnats are present.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kizzle]
    #28525252 - 11/01/23 08:34 AM (2 months, 26 days ago)

good info, favoriting. :thumbup:


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