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OfflineDERRAYLD
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: cybin]
    #28486617 - 09/29/23 09:46 AM (3 months, 27 days ago)

It's unfortunately competing with something hence the condensation and irregular growth.

Notice the condensation also takes on a glistening appearance.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kizzle]
    #28487482 - 09/30/23 08:02 AM (3 months, 27 days ago)

Hi guys i hope you can help me determine if this is contamination or  just regular mycellium?


Is the same jar from different angles and with/without flash. Im concerned about this fluffy cloudy part

There is also this grayish part which is also on surface in jar. It doesnt seem so much different in pic, but it is.


Edited by nikica (09/30/23 08:10 AM)


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: nikica]
    #28487741 - 09/30/23 01:11 PM (3 months, 26 days ago)

Bacterial


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
    #28488144 - 09/30/23 07:57 PM (3 months, 26 days ago)

Yeah, :whathesaid:.

I think it would be a good one to top fruit.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kinoko314]
    #28488362 - 10/01/23 01:43 AM (3 months, 26 days ago)

tnx guys


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: nikica] * 1
    #28488383 - 10/01/23 03:17 AM (3 months, 26 days ago)

you came this far. 
i'd still try to fruit the bastard.
If that grey is more green you may be fucked,
if it's more of a blue it may just be bruising.
I say fuck around and find out. :popcorn:
You could always shake it, and if it comes back good then you know.
If it comes back bad then you know.  That jar looks old af also.
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Edited by Mycelium Juice (10/01/23 03:26 AM)


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Mycelium Juice] * 1
    #28488804 - 10/01/23 12:12 PM (3 months, 25 days ago)

Good advice mate, i was thinking the same thing. I risked with worse and everything turned out well in the end. This is chamomile.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: nikica]
    #28498157 - 10/09/23 08:19 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

Pretty sure this is Verticillium aka dry bubble on my subtrop grow. It made mega big stems and caps compared to the toothpick stem it was cloned from. Gonna toss the sub.

Will bleach kill the contaminant spores and save the shoebox, or do I need to toss it and buy a new one?



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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Moopers]
    #28498171 - 10/09/23 08:38 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

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Moopers said:
Pretty sure this is Verticillium aka dry bubble on my subtrop grow. It made mega big stems and caps compared to the toothpick stem it was cloned from. Gonna toss the sub.

Will bleach kill the contaminant spores and save the shoebox, or do I need to toss it and buy a new one?





I personally don't see any symptoms of Lecanicillium fungicola. The small bumps don't resemble any symptoms I'm familiar with. The little bumps look to be a mutation, not an infection. Clones still have genetic variance and environmental factors can cause mutation outside of genetics causing them.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Munchauzen]
    #28498181 - 10/09/23 08:45 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

There are a couple exploded/split stems in the box, and this is a clone culture, which doesn't seem a likely candidate to mutate or show this kind of variance from fruit body to fruit body.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Moopers] * 1
    #28498365 - 10/10/23 12:24 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

Just cause its a clone does not rule out mutation. These fucked up bastards were from a clone (it even says it on the tub its a ghostie clone) and notice how the stems are split, that is not blowout.


here's the full strain forum thread. the mutations went away by the 2nd generation, growing from Multispore :ooo:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24242089

clones still have lots of strains present in them, just a bit less so than multispore.

If you have blown out stems, please post those. Could be you have split stems and not blown out ones considering I don't see any signs here.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Munchauzen]
    #28498369 - 10/10/23 12:30 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

here is a blowout fruit. only took about 8 hours for it to go from normal fruit to peeling monster



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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
    #28498952 - 10/10/23 03:06 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

First time using pink agar dishes. Pretty sure this one is fucked, but any luck that it’s the mycelium eating the dye?


Edited by APE-AL (10/10/23 03:06 PM)


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: APE-AL] * 1
    #28499162 - 10/10/23 05:44 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

It's a little hard to see, but I'd say it's more likely a pool of bacteria.  Maybe it could be food coloring being eaten, but I can't see any actual mycelium there.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kinoko314]
    #28499615 - 10/11/23 04:04 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

I’ll try to get a better pic after work. There is some much spiking on top of the area. I’m going to let it ride for a day or two and see what happens.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: APE-AL]
    #28499664 - 10/11/23 05:57 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)




I started 5 jars about a month or so ago. Didn't write down the date. But they were not doing anything for the first 2-3 weeks so I forgot about them and looked at them this morning and this is what I saw. What the hell did I grow? Spore syringe was over a year old so I assumed it was no good. Sterilized the jars in the pressure cooker for 90 minutes. I was just going to top fruit these to get back into the hobby after a year off. I know the pictures suck but I took them quickly before work.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Corey]
    #28501534 - 10/12/23 11:22 AM (3 months, 14 days ago)

The first two are toast for sure. Can you take a pic of the third at the growth line?


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: cozmyc]
    #28503239 - 10/13/23 12:10 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)




Here's a few more pictures. Any idea what the contam would be in the dark one? Looks evil lol


Edited by Corey (10/13/23 12:11 PM)


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Corey]
    #28503385 - 10/13/23 03:08 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Hey growers,

I noticed some amber-orange discoloration of stipes and mycelium at the base of the stipe.

Can't be good. Here, Thai Pink Buffalo, you can see the stumps have changed colour.

One fruit was limp and orange to the core.

Others were bruised without having been touched and the cap edge was bruising and starting to wrinkle. Others appeared to be drying on the sub.

The one better looking fruit's stipe had started to change colour at the base - you can see it here. I trimmed off the fury-feet. (Sorry the white balance makes it look much better than it is.

Different tub and variety - Yeti. The fruit were fine at harvest and did not discolour during drying.

Stumps are all discoloured... Myc seems to have covered it anyway.

Both tubs seem to be making new pins. I dumped the TPB tub - fruit were also becoming deformed. In two minds about the Yeti tub.

I think I transfered the contam from a Natalensis box with my harvesting scissors... Not on purpose of course.

Out fo curiosity, what could it be? I assume baterial... And how bad is it for the grow room?

Thanks
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Genome794]
    #28504020 - 10/14/23 05:43 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Quote:

Corey said:



Here's a few more pictures. Any idea what the contam would be in the dark one? Looks evil lol




That jar might be your winner.
I belive it's pin mold. Evil indeed. Dump outdoors, so you don't breath in spores.


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