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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Guerrilla]
#27771620 - 05/10/22 06:03 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Ok thx for the feedback.
Didn’t run dry but might have been too low on water. I went ahead and inoculated with agar. I hope it still fruits.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Carebear]
#27771718 - 05/10/22 07:10 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I think you made the right decision!
I would guess being burnt will affect the nutritional part of the grains? But some myc will grow on anything, and if you can't find the answer...there's only one way to find out! There's still a lot of good grain in there too. Maybe it devours the charred stuff whole, in one swallow, and fruits an all black PE?? dum dum dum.... Let us know!
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: TheTimelessDon]
#27771749 - 05/10/22 07:24 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Haha that would be awesome. And you bet; I will let you all know if that happens.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Carebear]
#27775028 - 05/13/22 03:20 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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What causes excessive water/ pooling in bags? I dont have pics rn but i have a lot of water in some of my bags but no other obvious indications of contam. i know its gotta be bacterial
Ill update with pics in a sec, just asking for gen info on the moisture/pooling
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: moshe1]
#27775284 - 05/13/22 08:40 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Temperature swings can bring out condensation and eventually pool
Maybe the grains were just too wet?
After colonization the mycelium can squeeze out excess moisture as it literally takes up the space it was in.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kizzle]
#27775934 - 05/13/22 05:52 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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This is my first time and it's taken almost two months to get to this point. I've had a friend caring for the shotgun fruiting chamber all week while I'm away for work.
I came back today to check it and see these spots/hue on it. Is it ruined? It's B+ if that makes a difference.

Edited by Aus404 (05/13/22 05:55 PM)
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Aus404]
#27775943 - 05/13/22 05:58 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Opposite! It's pinning! And the darker color looks like bruising, probably due to just picking up and moving the cakes with your hands. Maybe your friend plays with them while you're away. But I count a bunch of mushrooms popping out already! You can see them in the pics too and when they get bigger, you'll be able to make the connection.
Don't kill your friend!! - Maybe eat them together, because you're gonna have a harvest in a few days!!!
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: TheTimelessDon]
#27775961 - 05/13/22 06:11 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
TheTimelessDon said: Opposite! It's pinning! And the darker color looks like bruising, probably due to just picking up and moving the cakes with your hands. Maybe your friend plays with them while you're away. But I count a bunch of mushrooms popping out already! You can see them in the pics too and when they get bigger, you'll be able to make the connection.
Don't kill your friend!! - Maybe eat them together, because you're gonna have a harvest in a few days!!!
She swears she's never touched it, and it's never fallen over. Just comes into the room, mists and walks away. Can it be dehydrated maybe? Said she only mists the block one spray. It's a single large cake.
Thank you for the response though, that does ease my mind a bit. Journey has been moderately expensive and so much time I was about to be so upset if it was contaminated. I was so meticulous and clean about everything and was sad I couldn't do this last step because work.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Aus404]
#27776148 - 05/13/22 09:29 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Oooohhh I see now, that's just one big cake! Lol.
Leaning to the dry side probably. It's hard to tell from the pics of the cake directly - It actually doesn't look too bad! But looking at the walls behind the cakes, I'd say definitely leaning on the dry side. Pics 1 and 2, I see lots of FAE holes and hardly any moisture in the tub as a whole. This would lead me to believe that you are correct. But I do see moisture on the foil under cake... You should see thousands of tiny itsy bitsy beads of moisture covering your cake. Lil baby beads...
Yeah, the journey is long and can be frustrating waiting for over a month for anything in life... All I can say is don't worry, your fight against contamination is over... Even if the blue WAS a deadly mold... It's too late now, you're just going to have to eat all that deadly mold... It's been real! 
JK! Don't eat mold...lolol... and it's not mold...ok? Go look again now, it's been like 5+ hours from post. Your pins should be popping out even more from last time, they grow up so quickly... Worry about how you're going to dry, store, and consume them now.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: TheTimelessDon]
#27776599 - 05/14/22 07:57 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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UPDATE: With way too much pooling of water, coupled with the overlay issues caused me to lose my patience and pitch the lot. The whole martha tent was sterilized and revamped.
I introduced an inline fan to help with the FAE in the martha, set to 1/20 min intervals, and an ultrasonic coolmist to kick on/off at 92/95 which puts rh at 95%+.
I put 2 brf cakes to fruit 5/7 and have slowly introduced new cakes as they've colonized throughout the week- it's now 5/14.
I've noticed the 2 initial first brf cakes that were put to fruit have yet to pin. I'm trying to keep my patience, but with how much I've lost from a bad grain batch and the previous issues with the martha tent, I'm expecting the worse.
The overlay is occurring on one of the first 2 brf cakes, and there is bruising on the other. I'm assuming from being handled after falling over, but I may be wrong.

Please let me know your thoughts. So far the only thing I've cultivated more of is patience.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: M88]
#27777404 - 05/14/22 09:31 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Can you tell me if this is the start of golden teachers or cobweb mold I know I know it's a bad pic but it's white
https://files.shroomery.org/files/22-19/258509088-received_708909993565509.jpg][image]http://www.shroomery.org/forums/thumbs/22-19/258509088-thumb_received_708909993565509.jpg
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: RP1987]
#27777415 - 05/14/22 09:44 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Kill it with fire, that´s sporendonema purpurescens aka lipstick mold.
Just kidding mate, noone can tell with that filter. Give a good pic, but i bet it´s not cobweb.
Also have a look here for posting pics properly, as not many people will click on foreign links 
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Goatrider]
#27777426 - 05/14/22 10:00 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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It's not a filter it the grow light for the pot plant in the same room. I hang a thick sheet between them to filter the light away from the mushrooms
Edited by RP1987 (05/14/22 10:09 PM)
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kizzle]
#27777678 - 05/15/22 01:27 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Wait so all that time I thought my grows were failing, I was actually producing high quality, life-saving penicillium? I wonder what that goes for per kilo...
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: RP1987]
#27777756 - 05/15/22 03:44 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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RP1987 said: It's not a filter it the grow light for the pot plant in the same room. I hang a thick sheet between them to filter the light away from the mushrooms
I'm sure the light and being in that room is fine but we can't see a dang thing in that picture besides pink haha. If you show us a pic in normal white light or sunlight we can help better.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: WyoMX]
#27780479 - 05/16/22 03:38 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Is it just mold??? This is just over 1 week into the grow of Golden teacher's
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: RP1987]
#27780561 - 05/16/22 04:43 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Unfortunately that lighting isn't much better but it is a little bit better. It definitely isn't healthy looking mycelium and from what I can see there does look like mold, the right side of the pic right in the middle looks black/not really colonized by mycelium, the left side in the middle also looks weird, and the very top of that pic looks matted/ possibly moldy but without a clear picture in regular light its hard to see honestly. White light or sunlight is best not the yellow of a grow room. I know that's where your tub is but if you want good solid answers gotta give us good solid pics ya know.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: WyoMX]
#27780639 - 05/16/22 06:19 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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First grow, put to bulk a few days ago. I have blue spots that are spreading... I know usually blue is ok, green is bad, but it's bugging me - does this look like an okay/healthy grow with bruising or is it contam?


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Snarky]
#27780822 - 05/16/22 09:05 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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That's bruising. Very likely because your sub, and the air in the tub are way, way too dry. Either under-hydrated coir, extremely low room humidity, and or a lid that allows too much FAE.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Hindsight]
#27780851 - 05/16/22 09:31 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, note the ligher colored coir. Some of it looks almost completely dried out. I'd start with a good misting myself, and then take a look at what might be drying it out.
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