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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kizzle]
#27842233 - 06/29/22 11:49 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Very thin, white hairs. It’s popped up in about 4 tubs. Any ideas?
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Culliganman360]
#27842287 - 06/29/22 12:21 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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No biggie! I knew I’d lose a lot of these tubs. Maybe even most of them. It looks like coco hairs, but thinner and almost clear. Definitely contam, was just curious what it was. Looks like I get to practice my dumpster tek more today lol.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kizzle]
#27843346 - 06/30/22 04:52 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Is that not normal? I usually smell a little of whatever I’m PCing. I use polyfill filters and they’re not air tight. I assumed that was expected.
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Those look super rough dude. I’d toss them.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kizzle]
#27850651 - 07/05/22 03:52 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Weird question, maybe someone out there has run into it.
I have a tub of spore to grain, dirty spawn. Sorta played the numbers to get some tissue samples, and the two that lived are obviously not awesome. One had trich, and this second one in question was obviously bacterial but otherwise actually doing fine once spawned.
Today I noticed a bruise in the myc, and three of the pins in that are were so loosely attached that I was able to simple reach in and remove them. The myc in that area is super fragile, but fine elsewhere.
Do you know what might have caused this? Surface conditions, temp, FAE are all right on the money. Visually it is no different from the rest of the tub, minus blue bruising that is common. What would make the myc so fragile?
They’re maybe 2 days from being ready to harvest, and it didn’t produce much anyway. I’m taking prints and some tissue for agar. Just curious if anyone knew why this might happen.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: milkboy]
#27850817 - 07/05/22 05:42 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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milkboy said: Pictures are worth a thousand words
I didn’t take a picture because visually it looks 100% healthy. I’ll give it 24 hours and maybe something will have developed that is worth looking at
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Bigworm]
#27850820 - 07/05/22 05:42 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Bigworm said: I'm guessing here without seeing anything but, it's probably because of the bacterial spawn/contam. I had a good 4 flushes before my tub contaminated and then the fruits would fall over just from a slight shake of the tub. Before that I could pick up the entire substrate with holding a few fruits. My experience is limited so I could be way off.
It was definitely bacterial spawn, so that’s likely.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: milkboy]
#27850852 - 07/05/22 06:08 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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milkboy said: How can it look 100% visually healthy but you also know it to be bacterial spawn. Did you test a grain on agar or something? That makes no sense and further justifys the need for pictures lol.
I am 99% sure this was bacterial spawn. It was spore to grain. I’m having a lot of trouble with my agar right now so I’m just growing what I can with what I’ve got while I work on it. There was no doubt it was unhealthy spawn, I just was curious if this sounded like anything anyone had encounters, since visually it looks like very lightly bruised mycelium. I didn’t know there was even a problem until I moved the tub slightly and the loose pins wiggled.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kizzle]
#27850999 - 07/05/22 07:19 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Once trich goes green it’s sporulating. Isolate that stuff asap. I wouldn’t reuse your perlite either, although you can probably make it ok. Perlite is cheap, though, and I’d toss it.
I recently dealt with trich, although mine didn’t get to the green stage up top. If you were already pinning I’d say isolate and treat, but if you don’t already have some decent pins or fruits on the way… maybe bury these boys outside. Some older users recommend salt and iso for surface trich to slow it down, and that worked really well for me. It basically dissolved the stuff up top.
The problem with trich is that what you’re seeing isn’t all of it. It’s inside. So you can’t kill it or cut it off, only manage the surface.
Probably at this point I’d bury it and start another project.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kizzle] 1
#27851011 - 07/05/22 07:25 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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And it’s worth noting that trich isn’t harmful. So if you bury it and it fruits anyway, those fruits are safe.
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Bvilleupallnight said: So I have two cakes. Two holes? I live somewhere where it's averaging 100 degrees outside every day. Is there a point? Shade or no shade?
Can't lie. I'm so irritated. I had 20 jars and these were the only two I was even able to birth. So annoying. I was as sterile as possible. I wonder if the company I got the Jars from would reimburse me.
If I plant them somewhere where wildlife can access it am I going to have to deal with tripping racoons??
You’ll save money time and heartache making your own. It’s really really easy.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: milkboy]
#27851196 - 07/05/22 09:07 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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milkboy said: How can it look 100% visually healthy but you also know it to be bacterial spawn. Did you test a grain on agar or something? That makes no sense and further justifys the need for pictures lol.
In the time that’s passed since I posted here it’s started looking like trich. The small bluing on the surface is going down the side of the tub, and I bet when I wake up tomorrow I’ll have trich on the surface
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kizzle]
#27854848 - 07/08/22 01:27 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Howdy y’all. These are my first PF jars, prepped following the updated PF tek, and these particular jars are taking a while to colonize compared to the others I’ve started. No worries, of course, but I’m seeing some darker, maybe green spots, between the glass and myc. It’s hard to tell if it’s contam or if it’s pieces of darker verm getting pushed towards the jar. What do you think?
If it is contam, should I toss it, birth it early and remove the spots, or let it colonize and deal with it later? Any help is appreciated.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kizzle]
#27860958 - 07/13/22 09:12 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I’ll let someone keener than I confirm, but that looks like bruising to me. Looks more blue than green.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: baldur]
#27861183 - 07/13/22 12:46 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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baldur said: This is surely not expanding, so yeah hopefully not mold.
But I'm not familiar with the concept of bruising. What is that exactly in this context?
I did shake the jars quite vigorously, by banging them on a rubber slipper quite hard. 3-4 bangs resulted in all the grains being loose. Did I maybe overdo it?
You know how mushrooms bruise blue? Mycelium also bruises blue. And you did shake it, so there would be bruising
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kizzle]
#27863434 - 07/15/22 08:27 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Oooo that’s looking trich-like. Trich in my tubs always starts with a bruise. Then a little blob of white. Then a big ass patch of white that goes green.
I think that’s trich.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kizzle]
#27865143 - 07/16/22 05:52 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Yo! You’ve got exactly what killed the last 11 of my shoeboxes. Whats your spawn made from, out of curiosity?
Sorry just realized this was agar. I’m slow. But yeah, that’s the very thing that took my tubs. It proliferated FAST.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: milkboy]
#27865221 - 07/16/22 06:52 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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milkboy said: I believe its Black bread mold
That looks very similar, yup.
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smalltalk_canceled said: Had a slew of these on the recent oats, really nasty inside, completely dead outside in full FAE. Completely overran all grains and plates they were present in, when they consolidated or something, the grain became one big jelly like structure which was harder to get out of the jars. the knife slid off the damn yuck
Mine showed up on oats too. Probably a coincidence anyway since my spawn was about as dirty as you could get, but yeah. It shows up and just explodes.
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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Kizzle] 1
#27867465 - 07/18/22 11:02 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Your tub made teeth 🤢
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