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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: SpaceBaby]
    #27584731 - 12/17/21 10:43 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I have a small Tupperware of PE (from a T1 agar) on rye, spawned to CVG. The grains looked good, and the substrate colonization went well. It looked like it was about to pin, but now I have noticed little tan/orange spores forming against the sides. Have my grains gone bacterial after all this time?



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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Luminous7]
    #27584869 - 12/17/21 12:44 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks, that’s what others have told me as well. They look like side pins to me now. Should I birth and fruit it as a cake, upside down, since the top surface is the only side without pins?


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: TheConfluence]
    #27605051 - 01/03/22 12:05 PM (2 years, 24 days ago)

Granular growth, cloudy, and no wispy mass. Doesn't look good.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: RadagastTheBrown69]
    #27630867 - 01/24/22 11:21 AM (2 years, 3 days ago)

It can be, but maybe not. Do you have a picture of it?


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: fodera]
    #27648057 - 02/06/22 09:13 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

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Hello, I am new to this forum.
I have been growing Hawaiian Copelandia from growbox and I have come upon this, which seems like some kind of mold and shrooms are rotting.
I am already in the contact with the growkit shop, but could anyone please help me if this is dangerous? I harvest everything and threw away and now I am trying the second flush, but I am also thinking of throwing away entire growkit, because I am afraid it might be dangerous mold to inhale, let alone eat?





Thank you.




This looks like far gone bacterial blotch to me. They may be ok after dehydration and make boiling tea from them. I’m not sure though. They look pretty rotten, but it doesn’t look like mold to me.

Did you by chance mist them frequently?


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Raven44]
    #27648098 - 02/06/22 09:45 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

You could be right. I’ve never seen mold attack a cap like that, but I have had problems with blotch, so my vision is biased and I’m having a hard time seeing the fine details in those pics.

. Definitely proceed with caution op. When in doubt, throw that shit out. You body is a temple.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: ToadWizard]
    #27701745 - 03/19/22 07:12 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Could be some yellowing on the overlay. Are you fanning it? If so, I would stop. What fruiting chamber are you using?


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: xVadisx]
    #27707904 - 03/25/22 09:16 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I get those dark blobs with SWPE as well. Sometimes grey, sometimes tan. I always assumed they were just genetic blobs, but Mateja and sandman420’s back and forth have me doubting that they are not infected with a mycoparasite. We have eaten ounces of them though with no know ill effects thus far and all my other non-PE tubs seem unaffected and make healthy fruits, as well as my PE second flushes from the “blob” tubs.


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Re: Wondering how the surface is looking [Re: Kizzle]
    #27717363 - 04/02/22 01:31 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Looks like the start of PE blobs to me


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Re: Wondering how the surface is looking [Re: Kizzle]
    #27717398 - 04/02/22 02:38 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Was your spawn bacterial? Are you misting and fanning a lot? Don’t do that. That’s a lot of yellowing, stressed out myc and metabolites. Should still get some fruits though. How did you make your grain spawn.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: M88] * 1
    #27757581 - 04/30/22 12:56 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Don’t spray them unless they need it, and if you do, spray from above them and let it settle.  If your humidity is controlled and that high you may not be getting much evaporation. I feel like I see knots all over those cakes. Pins should come soon. Don’t love them to death.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Dj_karma_magnet] * 2
    #27760572 - 05/02/22 08:19 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Bacteria


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Dj_karma_magnet] * 1
    #27760695 - 05/02/22 09:49 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Bacteria





Should I toss? Got 10 other bags next to it. What kind of bacteria is it?




I wouldn’t spawn it myself. Maybe top fruit it in a Fahtbag with a handful of hydrated coir. Inoculating grains directly with spores can cause a lot of nasty spawn like that. It does not recover well well after breaking it up, and often falls to trich or other mold before the first flush. Try PF tek or get an anexic culture on agar if you want to use grain.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: Dj_karma_magnet] * 1
    #27761201 - 05/03/22 10:05 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Metabolites are in response to a contaminate. They are an immune response from mycelium to an infection. Likely bacterial in this case. Making sure your grain is properly sterilized, and not inoculating it with dirty spore solution, but rather with a clean culture will eliminate the issue.


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: RisingTide] * 1
    #27765359 - 05/06/22 01:07 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Looks pretty good to me. Isn’t watching them recover and go crazy after a shake so fun?


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: samohth]
    #27793465 - 05/26/22 09:05 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

For cubensis cakes, humidity chambers or a water tub is much > than a SGFC. Spawning to a shoebox of coir works well, so long as your cakes are not too bacterial.

Shredding dirty cakes into bulk can cause a lot of troubles. Clean, vigorous growing cakes are great to spawn to bulk, but if they are even a little sketchy, I recommend just fruiting as cakes in a water tub


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Re: Recognizing and dealing with contamination [Re: dracaena_lisa]
    #27859822 - 07/12/22 11:00 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

The mushrooms look ok.What did you roll your cakes in? Is that bark, or super coarse verm? They look like nice KSSS UFOs to me.


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