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Re: anarchist collective [Re: silversoul7]
    #2337711 - 02/15/04 02:30 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

TheOneYouKnow/enematpyrt/lysergic/JohnnyRespect

Well that's 4 of em :smile2:

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Re: anarchist collective [Re: silversoul7]
    #2337714 - 02/15/04 02:30 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: anarchist collective [Re: Xlea321]
    #2337716 - 02/15/04 02:31 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Alex123 said:
Well that's 4 of em  :smile2:



Actually that's one of them. :smirk:


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Re: anarchist collective [Re: silversoul7]
    #2339645 - 02/16/04 12:20 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Well either way there are a whole lot of non radical, non revolutionary NON ANARCHIST people here who Identify towards the right. Neocon or whatever con, it doesn't change my point.

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Re: anarchist collective [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #2340153 - 02/16/04 05:31 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

the people closest to anarchist thought on this board are those on the right.

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Re: anarchist collective [Re: ]
    #2340162 - 02/16/04 05:38 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

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because collectivist principles are authoritarian.




Only in certain narrow definitions.


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Re: anarchist collective [Re: GazzBut]
    #2340482 - 02/16/04 09:28 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Only in certain narrow definitions.

collectivism is the idea that a central power may, for the benefit (real or otherwise) of the community as a whole, violate certain members of that community. it is the theory that an individual doesn't have the highest claim on his own life, but that other people, acting through the state, do. i find that to be authoritarian. all forms of enforced collectivism are authoritarian. individual rights are violated in such a system.

any system in which a peaceful person comes subject to force is authoritarian to some degree. involuntary collectivism makes a routine out of doing this to extremity.

what rights are recognized under collectivist systems?

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Re: anarchist collective [Re: JameZTheNewbie]
    #2340512 - 02/16/04 09:46 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I'm hardly as "NeoCon", but I certainly don't believe Anarchy is a viable political system. Why? Because it usually deteriorates into a few dictictorial "warlords" controlling most of the resources by force of arms. Anarchy has never worked on a large scale, and it never will.

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Re: anarchist collective [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #2340515 - 02/16/04 09:47 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I think the idea of anarchy is a cute idea from rather ignorant people.

If it were possible to have anarchy and order I'd be all for it. Unfortunatly that would be an oxymoron.


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