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Pastywhyte
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: GreenRabbit]
#23060922 - 03/29/16 08:56 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Other than the absurdly low nock points I imagine pumpkin seeds will do fine. I recommend a high spawn ratio.
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eatyualive
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23061115 - 03/29/16 09:34 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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i wonder how it would perform if you ground it up into a meal? like flax seed meal. or even a powder and treated it like brf in pf cakes. wonder if its too sticky?
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: eatyualive]
#23061157 - 03/29/16 09:43 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Some really nice photographs, and a good write up. Got me hooked.
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: eatyualive]
#23061166 - 03/29/16 09:46 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Other than the absurdly low nock points I imagine pumpkin seeds will do fine. I recommend a high spawn ratio.

Yeah, I'll normally turn a pint into four 1 1/2 pints. That takes about 5 days to fully colonize rye berries or WBS.
This time it's a pint to eight 1 1/2 pints. Both jars are doing great so far though.
Update with pictures tomorrow.
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eatyualive said: i wonder how it would perform if you ground it up into a meal? like flax seed meal. or even a powder and treated it like brf in pf cakes. wonder if its too sticky?
I think it would be too sticky. Maybe pumpkin seeds with the shell still on them wouldn't get so mushy though.
Might try that in the Fall for a seasonal grow.
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SloppyJoseph said: Some really nice photographs, and a good write up. Got me hooked.

Thanks for the kind words!
Edited by Doxx (03/29/16 10:17 PM)
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Ziran
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23061279 - 03/29/16 10:27 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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my only thought on this is how much oil the pumpkin seeds make after you PC it, Althought, you could always bring them to a low boil with them in some sort of deep fry basket to help seperate the oils from the seeds before you PC them.
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Ziran]
#23061679 - 03/30/16 12:33 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Low inoc points? Maybe seemingly at first?
But pumpkin seeds are (IME) thinner than my heirloom rye grain viewed on the side.
If I had a jar of rye and a jar of pumpkin seeds I would pour them out side by side right now and count the inoc points myself.
But I can't so 
But seriously. I've been using heirloom varietal rye for a long time and even my verm-cased lazy ass grain trays have fruited "The most wicked cubes I ever tried man" (according to an acid head who probably has never been outside of oregon )
I'm just saying I always wonder if there is a BEST grain for actives.
Not the most inoc points, not the fastest colonization, but the BEST grain for active species to metabolize some ACTIVES.
Will we ever really know? For all we know, pumpkin seed produces the most potent fruits known to man, 6 times that of any wheat-related germ known.
Not saying we should get our hopes up for pumpkin seed being the next new thing.
Just saying that the more time I spend in this hobby, the more I realize that I know NOTHING about it.
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Ziran]
#23061681 - 03/30/16 12:34 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ziran said: my only thought on this is how much oil the pumpkin seeds make after you PC it, Althought, you could always bring them to a low boil with them in some sort of deep fry basket to help seperate the oils from the seeds before you PC them.
Food worker?
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"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT
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Doxx

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: elasticaltiger]
#23064414 - 03/30/16 06:26 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Day Five: Three Days After Grain to Grain Transfer added to original post.
Edited by Doxx (04/24/16 12:40 PM)
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: elasticaltiger]
#23064465 - 03/30/16 06:39 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wait what? I used to work in the food industry, but people tend to be dicks to you in that industry so I left it after about 8 years in it lol.
edit: and also I was tired of being pissed off all the time because everyone who comes in tends to be pissed off. and one of the supervisors was one of those lifers that has worked their for 20 years or something stupid crazy like that, needless to say she was a total bitch to everyone except when she wanted something from you. So it was time to change it up.
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Edited by Ziran (03/30/16 07:02 PM)
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Doxx

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Ziran]
#23074822 - 04/02/16 10:42 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Day Five: Six Days After Grain to Grain Transfer added to original post.
Edited by Doxx (04/24/16 12:40 PM)
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eatyualive
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
#23074904 - 04/02/16 11:11 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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nice! 
looks like they are taking.
maybe after you soak the pumpkin seed, try laying the seeds out flat on a towel to soak up the extra water. so that the surface is dry before you pressure cook the seed. or maybe you don't need to soak them as long. and id possibly strain them out a bit longer if your not doing so in order to get the surface water off. i use these type of mesh strainers with great success on wbs.

these type tend to hold the water in. and my grain comes out clumpier.

Edited by eatyualive (04/02/16 11:17 AM)
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Doxx

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: eatyualive]
#23074985 - 04/02/16 11:30 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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eatyualive said: nice! 
looks like they are taking.
maybe after you soak the pumpkin seed, try laying the seeds out flat on a towel to soak up the extra water. so that the surface is dry before you pressure cook the seed. or maybe you don't need to soak them as long. and id possibly strain them out a bit longer if your not doing so in order to get the surface water off. i use these type of mesh strainers with great success on wbs.

these type tend to hold the water in. and my grain comes out clumpier.
 
Thanks buddy! The mycelium on the pumpkin seeds looks mighty healthy.
I don't think water on the surface during prep was the issue here. I use that same type of strainer in fact.
These are the pumpkin seeds before they were loaded in to the jars. I even tested them on a paper towel.

The pumpkin seeds were only too wet after coming out of the pressure cooker.
I think it has something to do with their ability to retain water during sterilization.
After a good shake with the grain to grain transfer, they seemed to soak the water back up.
Edited by Doxx (04/13/16 09:39 PM)
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
#23095952 - 04/08/16 05:43 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Bringing up irgon points. Why not poppies seeds
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Thedillestpickle
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: tump]
#23095971 - 04/08/16 06:08 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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poppy seeds! awesome idea!
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Doxx
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Thedillestpickle]
#23103509 - 04/10/16 01:46 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Day Sixteen: Spawning Pumpkin Seed and Wild Bird Seed to Mini Monotubs added to original post.
Edited by Doxx (04/24/16 12:41 PM)
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
#23103573 - 04/10/16 02:05 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Awesome, I'm keeping an eye on this grow.
Those mini monos look pretty sweet, I like how deep you have the sub. I'm eager to see that first flush!
 
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Doxx
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: IveBeenRecycled]
#23103624 - 04/10/16 02:20 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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IveBeenRecycled said: Awesome, I'm keeping an eye on this grow.
Those mini monos look pretty sweet, I like how deep you have the sub. I'm eager to see that first flush!
  
Thank you! It's around 3-4" of substrate with a 1/4" casing layer. Not too deep!
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
#23114894 - 04/13/16 09:22 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Combo the WBS with the pumpkin seeds. See what you get when you do that more proteins + fast colonization?
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eatyualive
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Ziran]
#23116384 - 04/14/16 09:29 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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let the fun begin
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: eatyualive]
#23135845 - 04/19/16 11:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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