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Invisiblekaiowas
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does happiness imply...
    #2310281 - 02/06/04 11:58 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

that what is good IS good?

is it better to be content than happy?

what IS better?


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.---senior doobie


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Re: does happiness imply... [Re: kaiowas]
    #2310932 - 02/07/04 05:18 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

"well I always viewed contentment as a from of resignation, an exceptance of the status quo..." Name that movie...



I think hapiness is better. But can you list five happy people that you know personally? I cannot.


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Re: does happiness imply... [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2310999 - 02/07/04 06:26 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I can list myself... I'd list Kaiowas too, he tends to be pretty up beat.... my dad is probably pretty happy usually, unless something he is working on in the house keeps fucking him over and he will continously scream profanities... *will do the same*.

Content or happy... hhhm.... I'll think about this more and come back, I don't have much time as my new computer will be here soon and I will have to set it up and shit.... :wink:
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Re: does happiness imply... [Re: kaiowas]
    #2311107 - 02/07/04 09:09 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: does happiness imply... [Re: ]
    #2311168 - 02/07/04 10:05 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I think contentment would fit more appropriately. I guess it depends on the set and setting :|


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Re: does happiness imply... [Re: ]
    #2311308 - 02/07/04 12:23 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

yes, i agree with all you said.
happiness is a way of traveling, not the destination. contentment and happiness go hand in hand...


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Re: does happiness imply... [Re: kaiowas]
    #2311722 - 02/07/04 03:12 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I'm happy, although I can temporarily become "down". But that's the "ups and downs" of life, right?

In general, regardless of what's going on, I'm happy. Sometimes too happy. A while back, I said may be I am just delusional, because I shouldn't be happy, considering what I've been through in recent years, and that I'm still cleaning up the fall-out.

What is happiness? I saw where some people wrote "contentment". I would also add peacefulness. I don't know too many people who would use the word "peaceful" to describe me, but I really mean it in the sense that I have peace as to how I am living my life and experiencing this world, and peace as to my beliefs.


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Re: does happiness imply... [Re: ]
    #2311748 - 02/07/04 03:19 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Yes. The good is real and can be known.

How?


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Re: does happiness imply... [Re: muhurgle]
    #2311780 - 02/07/04 03:28 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: does happiness imply... [Re: ]
    #2311834 - 02/07/04 03:40 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Yes. I do have a concept of what good is, but I understand that this concept is not universal. How do you measure goodness, and what do you measure it against? You must know some universal metric that I don't know of, what is it?


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Re: does happiness imply... [Re: muhurgle]
    #2311850 - 02/07/04 03:44 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: does happiness imply... [Re: ]
    #2311908 - 02/07/04 04:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

This is not splitting hairs. Why is knowledge a good thing? If the truth is depressing (it could be), then wouldn't it be better to be the happy idiot? And have you experienced not living? By saying that living is a good thing, you've already made too many assumptions (do you even know what living is?).

But assuming that life is more good than no life, how do you use that to determine goodness? It's not a very useful metric beyond the obvious "thou shalt not kill", is it? When is it good to go to war? When you avoid more suffering than you cause? How do you measure suffering?


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    #2311940 - 02/07/04 04:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: does happiness imply... [Re: kaiowas]
    #2313273 - 02/08/04 01:32 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Contentment and happiness aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. There is some interplay between them, each leading to the other. I wouldn't say either are preferable since every moment is uniquely beautiful, hideous or simply existing.

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Re: does happiness imply... [Re: muhurgle]
    #2313371 - 02/08/04 02:14 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

"how do you use that to determine goodness?"

see I was thinking that you define your own terms of what IS good. then the idea of "better" came to my mind. So then I got caught in a loop that, in order for something to be "better" something must be "more good" than the other. this got me question what "good" really depends on.

this was influenced by the existence thread. if everything in our reality is subjective, does that mean that our feelings are as well?

and while there isn't a need for suffering, what about being happy?

isn't bieng happy just as subjective as being sad?

then I thought about being content. this to me involves more of an acceptance of things. a neutral flow where one just observes in a deep place within themself.

I go outside a lot because nature calms me down. I'm not concerned with what is bad or good, jsut what's there.


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.---senior doobie


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Re: does happiness imply... [Re: kaiowas]
    #2313498 - 02/08/04 03:21 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

First you have to define good.

The only way to grasp what good is, is to accept that good is what most people accept as good. So this is totally subjective from definition.

But what if your good is not the majority's good?

Good then, is what you accept as good and only that. If it matches someone else'e definition of good then you may be and possibly can be friends! :biggrin:

P.S.: I used the word "good" 7 times. (counting this one as well :nut: :nut: :nut:)


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Re: does happiness imply... [Re: Shroomerious]
    #2313504 - 02/08/04 03:24 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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First you have to define good.




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