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Invisibletimetravel
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How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they?
    #2309353 - 02/06/04 06:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

>>>>>>>>>The largest estimate of the number of medical evacuations from Iraq is to be found in a December 30 article by retired US Army Col. David Hackworth, "Saddam's in the slammer, so why are we on orange?"

Hackworth writes, "Even I...was staggered when a Pentagon source gave me a copy of a Nov. 30 dispatch showing that since George W. Bush unleashed the dogs of war, our armed forces have taken 14,000 casualties in Iraq - about the number of warriors in a line tank division." The former colonel adds that the figure "means we've lost the equivalent of a fighting division since March. At least 10 percent of the total number" of available personnel - 135,000 - "has been evacuated back to the USA!" <<<<<<<<<<<<

Why has there been no interviews of these wounded soldiers? Why is the news so quiet on this? 14,000 wounded, thats alot of people to hide.


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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: timetravel]
    #2309389 - 02/06/04 07:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

A wound can be anything.

How serious are the wounds would be my first question.

Where's the link to the article is the second question.


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Invisibletimetravel
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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: timetravel]
    #2309542 - 02/06/04 07:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: timetravel]
    #2309679 - 02/06/04 08:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

oh shit, he won't accept that, I do, but he won't.


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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: TrueBrode]
    #2310705 - 02/07/04 03:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

He'll want "proof".. :lol:


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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2310992 - 02/07/04 06:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Alex123 said:
He'll want "proof".. :lol:



Of course I will. I don't just accept every story at face value.

You should try it.


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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: timetravel]
    #2350151 - 02/18/04 02:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)


I still hear nothing about wounded soldiers from iraq. Some seem to deny it because its not on fox news or drudge. I get my micheal jackson news updates and laci peterson trial news from fox and drudge. They never mention the things below. Why are patient loads exceeding what the army can handle if the military had recorded only 2,000 combat casualties? Does anyone here know how many injured the most "powerful army in the world" can properly care for?


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Daniel Denning, assistant secretary of the Army, testified to the House Total Force Subcommittee, "We recognize that last fall, we temporarily lost sight of the situation. It is likely that during this period of force rotations, patient loads at some installations may exceed local capacity. The Army has developed a series of options to handle this surge."




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Sgt. Craig Allen LaChance, a soldier who was on medical hold at Fort Stewart, told the panel that it "took months to get appointments" with specialists while sick and injured soldiers waited in what he said were substandard barracks. "We lived in deplorable conditions," LaChance said. "We were made to feel like we had failed the Army."





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The Bush administration, referring to veterans of the war in Iraq, told a House panel that they would avoid last year's "mistakes" of leaving sick and injured troops at U.S. bases to wait for months to be properly treated by doctors. Adding insult to injury, Army Surgeon General Lt. Gen. James B. Peake told the House panel that he "was not aware" that last fall soldiers were waiting for medical care at U.S. bases and under substandard living conditions.





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More than 1,000 National Guard and Army Reserve soldiers at Fort Stewart and Fort Knox, including hundreds who had served in Iraq, had waited weeks or months in "medical hold" to be seen by doctors. At Fort Stewart in Georgia, they waited in hot concrete barracks with no air-conditioning or running water.





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Congressman Gene Taylor (Dem.-Mississippi) complained that the Pentagon deliberately undercounted combat casualties. He cited the case of five members in the Mississippi National Guard who had been wounded in a booby-trap bomb explosion. Incredibly, their injuries were listed by the military as "non combat." The truth emerged only because Taylor spoke face to face with the most seriously injured of the five at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington DC.




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The Landstuhl facility, located near the huge US air base at Ramstein Germany, reported on January 23, 2004 that the total US medical evacuations from Iraq to Germany by the end of 2003 was 9,433. The number of hostile and "non-hostile" wounded listed by the Army at that point was approximately 2,750.







You can read the article here: http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=654


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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: timetravel]
    #2350168 - 02/18/04 02:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I still hear nothing about wounded soldiers from iraq

Strange isn't it. And yet the neocons still insist the media are rabid "leftists"... :rolleyes:


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Invisibletimetravel
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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: Xlea321]
    #2350217 - 02/18/04 02:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Strange isn't it. And yet the neocons still insist the media are rabid "leftists"...




Its really strange. People sending air conditioners and phone cards to soldiers over there, and wounded waiting to see a doctor HERE for weeks in non-airconditioned,no running water, and most likely no phones, concrete block houses. Cause noone knows they exist.


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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: timetravel]
    #2350332 - 02/18/04 03:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

here, check this link out:

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/wounded/


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Invisibletimetravel
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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: ]
    #2350943 - 02/18/04 05:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Imagine...in order to find info on casulaties in a war, one has to rely on sites like the memoryhole. Good job memoryhole!


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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: timetravel]
    #2350970 - 02/18/04 05:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

I still hear nothing about wounded soldiers from iraq.



Don't read much then?
Three U.S. soldiers were killed and six wounded by roadside bombs in Baghdad and two cities to the north on Monday, the military announced. Four U.S. soldiers were wounded and one insurgent was killed Monday in a firefight that ended in the arrest of a suspected cell leader and eight others, the military said. The cell leader was not on the list released Tuesday.
Fox News


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Invisibletimetravel
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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2351011 - 02/18/04 05:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

  Don't read much then?





I'm looking for more than a by-line. Go back to fox and inform yourself, :grin: ya need it.


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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: timetravel]
    #2351037 - 02/18/04 05:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Imagine...in order to find info on casulaties in a war, one has to rely on sites like the memoryhole. Good job memoryhole!

you'll note that each entry is accompanied by the news source it appeared in. many appeared in publications like the new york times or time magazine.


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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: timetravel]
    #2351038 - 02/18/04 05:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Imagine...in order to find info on casulaties in a war, one has to rely on sites like the memoryhole. Good job memoryhole!

you'll note that each entry is accompanied by the news source it appeared in. many appeared in publications like the new york times, washington post, or time magazine.


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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: timetravel]
    #2351048 - 02/18/04 05:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well then you need to get out more because the info is on each days news.

Or don't they put this info on the funny pages?

I merely picked that site because it was one you specifically mentioned, so perhaps the one who needs informing is the stooge you see in the mirror each day.

So since you seem blissfully unaware that this info is easily found, I'd say the one who needs informing.... is you.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2351373 - 02/18/04 06:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)


Quote:

Well then you need to get out more because the info is on each days news.

Or don't they put this info on the funny pages?

I merely picked that site because it was one you specifically mentioned, so perhaps the one who needs informing is the stooge you see in the mirror each day.

So since you seem blissfully unaware that this info is easily found, I'd say the one who needs informing.... is you.




So you think my bringing attention to the lack of info on wounded is unfounded. Go tell the Senate Intelligence Committee that you know whats up cause you are so informed. BTW if you think you are making me look like a fool with those comments about "the funny pages" and "stooge in the mirror", you're wrong. Its you who look foolish.
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Sen. Bob Graham of Florida, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, had complained in September 2003 that he was unable to find out how many US soldiers had been wounded in Iraq because the administration refused to release this information




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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: timetravel]
    #2351395 - 02/18/04 06:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

the ranking Democrat



Well there you go.


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BTW if you think you are making me look like a fool



Nope, wasn't me. You managed that on your own quite nicely.


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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: timetravel]
    #2351442 - 02/18/04 07:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: How many wounded in Iraq? And where are they? [Re: Strumpling]
    #2351473 - 02/18/04 07:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What? Say it isn't so! The info is available on a mainstream news site? Perhaps someone should alert Bob Grahm right away.

Maybe we should send him the URL.  :lol:


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