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OfflineRequiem
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Quick question
    #2309193 - 02/06/04 05:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Could a person do a G2G transfer with a casing on it's third flush?
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Re: Quick question [Re: Requiem]
    #2309678 - 02/06/04 08:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

They could, but i have no idea if it is a good or bad idea. Anyone know?


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Re: Quick question [Re: GoldenShroom]
    #2309796 - 02/06/04 09:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

contamination........ in other words no


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Re: Quick question [Re: Requiem]
    #2309822 - 02/06/04 09:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

the casing your going to use for the transfer will most likely be contaminated and will result in the grain being contaminated.


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Re: Quick question ............long answer [Re: Zapotecorum]
    #2309854 - 02/06/04 09:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

G2G means Grain to Grain transfers.
Once you have learned to prepare sterilized spawn pint or quart jars of bird seed, rye or grains & fully colonize them with mycelium. You can easily propagate a single colonized quart jar of that into about 20 more via G2G transfers.
Spawn rates ranging from 1:10 to 1:40 are being used, with 1:40 being "on the verge of being unsuccessful" [Stamets, GGMM 2000].
Jars propagated via G2G transfers generally colonize under optimal conditions 100% in 10 to 14 days . Given that, spores do not have to germinate, as what is transferred to freshly prepared jars is active mycelium on fully colonized seed or grains.

The method is to prepare fresh jars, just as you would to inoculate via a spore syringe (soak seed, rinse, drain, load, apply filter disk & PC). Excepting, rather than inoculate the fresh jars with a syringe. You transfer grain from a colonized jar to fresh uncolonized jars. The procedure is simple & only requires common sense, minimal preparation, a long stout clean stainless steel spoon & the cleanest personal hygiene and the smallest uncarpeted working place you can muster.

Prepare the smallest cleanest uncarpeted room you have (generally, a bathroom). In the following manner. Clean the room as best you can, getting rid of any dirt, dust, mold or mildew. Remove any cloth hanging anywhere. Spray Lysol on everything, everywhere & wipe it down. If you have any HEPA type air filter unit? Place it in the room & run it for at least 1 hour. Running a HEPA is preferable, but, if you don't have one. You can usually manage without it

Wipe your fully colonized jar of grain & your fresh jars down, with a clean Lysol sprayed rag. Place those in the room, on the counter top, or whatever flat working surface you intend to use. Wear freshly laundered clean cloths. If you have a face mask (preferable) wear it. If you have a shower cap to cover your hair (preferable), wear it. Enter the room, spray Lysol around (again) run the HEPA for a few minutes (if you have one). Then, turn it off. Spray your hands & arms with Lysol & wipe dry.

Unscrew the lid off the colonized jar. Leave the internal filter disk or filter material in place covering the content. Unscrew the lid on a fresh jar, leaving the internal filter material in place. Remove the filter material from the colonized jar & dig up about ? of content, as it will be colonized into a solid mass. Spoon out 2 table spoons full & transfer them to the uncolonized jar, by lifting it's filter up & spooning them in. Replace the filter material on the fresh jar IMMEDIATELY after spooning in the colonized material.

Repeat this same process as many times as you have fresh jars to transfer to. Once done. Screw the fresh jars lids on tight. Cover the outside of the lids of the fresh jars with a double layer of alcohol swabbed coffee filters & rubber band them down. Shake each fresh jar to spread the colonized material throughout it. Place your fresh jars in a dry, dark, warm place (preferably between 78 & 84 F), and allow them to colonize in peace & quiet. G2G transfer & shaking jars batters the mycelium. It takes it a day or 3 recuperate from that shock. There is no need to shake G2G jars more than once. As, doing so will only slow colonization, rather than speed it up.


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Re: Quick question ............long answer [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #2309883 - 02/06/04 09:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/31919.html?1069433318



want more info read this..............i have to say that g2g is one of the most important subjects of mushroom cultivation.




Edited by Tomandjerry58 (02/06/04 09:28 PM)


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Re: Quick question ............long answer [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #2310233 - 02/06/04 11:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

cool, thanks for the info and links.


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