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Offlinech1ck3n.s0up
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Motorcycle Question
    #23068639 - 03/31/16 07:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Heya Peeps,

Anyone out there knowledgeable about motorcycles, I'd appreciate your help.

Question: what bikes are considered to be the worst on the market? I've heard the term "Rice Rocket" thrown around--is that to say that a "Jap Bike" is a _bad_ bike? What is looked down upon as being a low-end bike; the "Dodge Dart" of the motorcycle world?

Which bikes tend to break down the most, and have the most mechanical problems? Which are the worst engineered?

Thx,
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Edited by ch1ck3n.s0up (03/31/16 07:34 PM)

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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up] * 1
    #23068674 - 03/31/16 07:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

WOOOOHOOOO!!

I've been waiting for this day. There's like, 1 other biker on the Shroomery. And it's real special talking bikes when you're a biker. They're my greatest (material) passion in this world.

In answer to your question, it's very simple - the worst bikes are the ones by the rarely heard brand names. Often Chinese. Absolute shite, an ex-colleague had one and half the shops he took it to refused to work on it. Let me find some examples..

Lexmoto, Zontes, Sinnis

If you want a decent bike, and probably the most reliable and reasonably priced, look no further than Honda. I've had... 6 of them now. Compared to my European bikes (a Husaberg & Ducati) they're just so wonderfully simple in their layout, construction, availability of parts, quality of design, and ease of use and easiness to work on.

I don't know what it's like in regards to licensing where you are, but go 125 if you must for a first bike, although 4/600 is better.

Feel free to ask any more questions brother, I can talk about bikes all day.


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23068683 - 03/31/16 07:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Stay away from anything Chinese. Japan makes good bikes... Honda, kawasaki, suzuki, and yamaha all make good bikes of similar quality

Rice rocket is just a term for 4 cylinder high power jap sport bikes, the most common sizes are 600cc and 1000cc. If it's your first bike, don't get one they are stupid fast. Like 100-200hp in a a 400lb package fast.

Edited by luvdemboomers (03/31/16 07:47 PM)

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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23068694 - 03/31/16 07:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Jokeshopbeard said:
WOOOOHOOOO!!

I've been waiting for this day. There's like, 1 other biker on the Shroomery. And it's real special talking bikes when you're a biker. They're my greatest (material) passion in this world.

In answer to your question, it's very simple - the worst bikes are the ones by the rarely heard brand names. Often Chinese. Absolute shite, an ex-colleague had one and half the shops he took it to refused to work on it. Let me find some examples..

Lexmoto, Zontes, Sinnis

If you want a decent bike, and probably the most reliable and reasonably priced, look no further than Honda. I've had... 6 of them now. Compared to my European bikes (a Husaberg & Ducati) they're just so wonderfully simple in their layout, construction, availability of parts, quality of design, and ease of use and easiness to work on.

I don't know what it's like in regards to licensing where you are, but go 125 if you must for a first bike, although 4/600 is better.

Feel free to ask any more questions brother, I can talk about bikes all day.



what do u mean by 125 and 4/600?

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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #23068703 - 03/31/16 07:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Engine capacity. In CC's.


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23068719 - 03/31/16 07:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

125CC for starter? That seems a little light, with that you can't even keep up on the highway. I would go for a 250cc at least.
I don't even think they make a lot of 125cc bikes.

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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23068722 - 03/31/16 07:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'd get a Triumph or Ducati scrambler if I had the $.

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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #23068724 - 03/31/16 07:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Can't go wrong with a Harley.


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Zombi3]
    #23068731 - 03/31/16 07:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The new Ducati scrambler is dippity-dope.

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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Cowb0yNeal00] * 1
    #23068741 - 03/31/16 07:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

That's cause you're in the States, and why I mentioned the licensing issue which may or may not exist where OP is. There is a HUGE market for 125's in the UK, as the growing test restrictions make it untenable for new riders to ride anything bigger.

Hence, '4/600 is better'.

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luvdemboomers said:
Like 100-200hp in a a 400lb package fast.



185hp, 185kg wet. Power to weight ratio nearly twice that of a Bugatti Veyron:



It's INSANELY fast. Every other vehicle I have owned I have, after some time, been able to master. Not this fucker. It consistently blows my mind when I ride it. This bike is better than I will ever be.


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up] * 1
    #23068744 - 03/31/16 07:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Honda is quality shit.
Yamaha is quality shit.
Suzuki makes some dope bikes.
Triumph makes some hella dope bikes.

I'm partial to Harley and Triumph for road bikes. Honda and Yamaha for off road bikes. Triumph makes a hell of a good dual sport.


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Middleman]
    #23068754 - 03/31/16 07:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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The new Ducati scrambler is dippity-dope.



I don't dig 'em, but there seems to be a huge market for them. I think they're capitalising on older guys who rode in their youth. Massively prefer my Duc:



I do a yearly test ride thing where I take a day off work when the weather starts to warm and go and test ride all the latest models (it's so easy, could never walk into a Ferrari dealership and get a test, but can ride all the hottest bikes) so will try a Scrambler this year. I'm sure the sound will be great, like all Ducati's, but the ride/handling is gonna have to be pretty special for it to live up to the hype..


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23068785 - 03/31/16 08:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Buy a Harley to look cool.
Buy a Honda for reliability.
buy a BMW to ride the planet!

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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: MagicalMysteryTor] * 1
    #23068787 - 03/31/16 08:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Buy a dual sport!!!!

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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: MagicalMysteryTor]
    #23068793 - 03/31/16 08:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Buy a Harley to look cool.
Buy a Honda for reliability.
buy a BMW to ride the planet!



That's pretty succinct. A colleague had a Harley for 13 years in Greece. Said it was like riding on a dildo the way it got women excited. Honda = reliability, definitely. Wish I had the money for a new BMW GS 1200 Adventure. Those things are the shit. I aint a huge fan of the boxer engine (have ridden one) but they're sure as fuck the machine to tackle pretty much any terrain.


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23068828 - 03/31/16 08:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

If money was no problem:



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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23068841 - 03/31/16 08:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

thats one sexy bitch.  I love dukes but at 6'3 they dont fit me well!

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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23068851 - 03/31/16 08:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:homerdrool:


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23068853 - 03/31/16 08:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I have a hondamatic. I like it just fine but it's kinda slow.


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #23068882 - 03/31/16 08:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Buy a dual sport!!!!




I have a TW200, it tops at 65 but it can climb walls and it's great in the sand.


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #23068897 - 03/31/16 08:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Some of the worse most unreliable bikes imo are pre evo harleys. Their 90 degree displacement and lack of rubber engine mounts would cause the engine to shake so much it would vibrate thing loose.

Now im a harley go so ill be first to say an evo or any big twin are awesome motors and harleys are some of the most customizable bikes. Very man outlets for aftermarket parts.

I started on a Honda and i like them too. If your looking for something smaller the inline 4 550 nighthawks are great bikes, extremely reliable and peppy for their size as well as they are dirt cheap.

As far as sport bikes, ducs are the shit but PRICEY honda cbr are great jixirs are good smaller size i think they are 750s... i could go on about bikes all day...


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Middleman]
    #23068904 - 03/31/16 08:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

how about drz400sm

Seems like one of the few bikes you can have fun on without going triple the speed limit


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #23068942 - 03/31/16 08:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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i could go on about bikes all day...



Thank fuck I'm not alone in that!!


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how about drz400sm



This would be about the most fun on two wheels possible I reckon (also without cracking triple figures) if only it weren't so damn unreliable:



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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Middleman]
    #23068947 - 03/31/16 08:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

Cowb0yNeal00 said:
Buy a dual sport!!!!




I have a TW200, it tops at 65 but it can climb walls and it's great in the sand. :thumbup:



Climb walls? Nice, do u live near a wooded area? Im thinking of getting one, but not sure how much off road ill be doing.

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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #23068992 - 03/31/16 08:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

BMW?


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #23069000 - 03/31/16 08:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23069003 - 03/31/16 08:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:underage:

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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #23069064 - 03/31/16 09:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

How bout a klr650:thumbup:


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Mental Taco]
    #23069094 - 03/31/16 09:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

ive owned several harley sportsters and a ninja 600.

would highly recommend any of them. The ninja was as close to 0 maintenance as you could get.


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Mental Taco]
    #23069103 - 03/31/16 09:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Reminds me of the Transalp I bought to see me through the salt this year:



It's pretty boring, but a surprisingly capable bike. Plus you just know it's gonna keep going forever.


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23069362 - 03/31/16 10:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Go Japanese. They are common, reliable, mechanics are everywhere, and lots of info out on them.  Plus they are pretty much all the same until you have awesome skills, so you can pick the one that's the best price or looks the best.  Something in the 400-650cc range in a standard (ninja, sv650, etc) would be best (though if you are under 180lbs, smaller bikes work better).  Supermoto like bikes like the drz or grom are also excellent choices, if not better choices than standards.  Avoid super sports like gsxr600 or 1000 (though, arguably, liter bikes are better beginner bikes than 600cc bikes when taking about super sports... But we're staying on a standard here, remember)


Secondly, take a MSF course to get your license. I don't care if you have a buddy who will teach you, take it anyhow.


Third, once you start getting comfortable, look up a track day group like sport bike track time and do a track day or two. You'll pick up valuable skills and learn a bunch more. Plus it's fun and if you keep doing track days it will help keep you from speeding on public roads.

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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Mental Taco]
    #23069370 - 03/31/16 10:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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How bout a klr650:thumbup:




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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: forumLurker101]
    #23075959 - 04/02/16 03:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

My bro has a ninja 1100 ,I think its like 20 years old and it has had no mechanical issues,have ridden on the back of it and got up to 120,scary


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: 5150]
    #23075996 - 04/02/16 03:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

My first bike I sold a couple years ago.

It was a Buell Blast lol, 02' I think.



It was kind of slow but it being my first bike, It was a lot of fun. I was ripping it around all the time until I had to sell it before I moved.

My buddy just sold his Suzuki DRZ400.  That thing was cool.


I live in the mountains now, so I was thinking about getting an enduro type, on/off road for my next bike.  Even though I really like the CBR's and R1's.


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #23076032 - 04/02/16 03:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Id love to get a dual sport. I have this romanticized vision of jumping off road when a cop tries to light me up.

My only concern is a lot of the dual sport bikes seem really tall. I'm only 5'6 and prefer a shorter bike.


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: danielx]
    #23076047 - 04/02/16 04:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yea those dual-sports are pretty awesome.


I'm 6'1, so I need a bigger bike.

I was maxxing out my old one lol.


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Middleman]
    #23076333 - 04/02/16 05:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Cowb0yNeal00 said:
Buy a dual sport!!!!




I have a TW200, it tops at 65 but it can climb walls and it's great in the sand.






I have a TW as well.  I've owed few motorcycles over the years, but the TW is my favorite.  More fun/$ than almost anything else I've ever bought.

Plus, regardless of the model a little dual sport motorcycle is actually super practical.  It is great for zipping around on back roads, and would also be great in an urban environment for getting around quickly.  My TW gets 70-80 miles to the gallon and is super easy and cheap to maintain.  Yea, you wouldn't think "practical" when you see a dual sport like this, but in reality they are a very cost effective and efficient type of transportation.


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: AllGreyThumbs]
    #23076350 - 04/02/16 05:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Nice! I was just looking at a TW online today, they are like the cheapest dual sports out there as far as price, the one i saw was only like 3.5k.
Im thinking about getting one. But what about long trips? 2 plus hours? Is that feasible for the bike?

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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #23076922 - 04/02/16 08:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Nice! I was just looking at a TW online today, they are like the cheapest dual sports out there as far as price, the one i saw was only like 3.5k.
Im thinking about getting one. But what about long trips? 2 plus hours? Is that feasible for the bike?




I'm not that familiar with that particular bike but being a 200cc mild mannered 4 stroke it will be pretty gutless and I doubt it will like doing highway speeds or long periods of time. That being said I'd imagine it is a pretty bulletproof engine that will run forever if it is anything like the TTR line.

What type of riding do you intend to do? $3500 opens up a lot of options if you are buy used.

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    #23076990 - 04/02/16 08:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Nice! I was just looking at a TW online today, they are like the cheapest dual sports out there as far as price, the one i saw was only like 3.5k.
Im thinking about getting one. But what about long trips? 2 plus hours? Is that feasible for the bike?




I can't take more than an hour @ 60, too much vibration. Some people switch out the sprocket and take them cross-country though. They usually go for $2-3000 used.

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Cowb0yNeal00 said:
Nice! I was just looking at a TW online today, they are like the cheapest dual sports out there as far as price, the one i saw was only like 3.5k.
Im thinking about getting one. But what about long trips? 2 plus hours? Is that feasible for the bike?




I'm not that familiar with that particular bike but being a 200cc mild mannered 4 stroke it will be pretty gutless and I doubt it will like doing highway speeds or long periods of time. That being said I'd imagine it is a pretty bulletproof engine that will run forever if it is anything like the TTR line.

What type of riding do you intend to do? $3500 opens up a lot of options if you are buy used.



3,500 was used actually. I think they run 4,500 new.
mainly into the city, which about 20-30 mins. But also would like to take longer trips 2+ hours.

Weird that the tw 200 goes only 65 mph. People say the honda grom tops out at 70 and thats only 125cc i think.

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    #23078594 - 04/03/16 10:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Nice! I was just looking at a TW online today, they are like the cheapest dual sports out there as far as price, the one i saw was only like 3.5k.
Im thinking about getting one. But what about long trips? 2 plus hours? Is that feasible for the bike?




I can't take more than an hour @ 60, too much vibration. Some people switch out the sprocket and take them cross-country though. They usually go for $2-3000 used.



wow, I wish i can find one at that price. I guess around me bikes are a bit more expensive.
Ya i probably go with a bike between 250-300cc. I really would want the extra power to be able to cruise on the highway.

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    #23078779 - 04/03/16 11:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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luvdemboomers said:
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Cowb0yNeal00 said:
Nice! I was just looking at a TW online today, they are like the cheapest dual sports out there as far as price, the one i saw was only like 3.5k.
Im thinking about getting one. But what about long trips? 2 plus hours? Is that feasible for the bike?




I'm not that familiar with that particular bike but being a 200cc mild mannered 4 stroke it will be pretty gutless and I doubt it will like doing highway speeds or long periods of time. That being said I'd imagine it is a pretty bulletproof engine that will run forever if it is anything like the TTR line.

What type of riding do you intend to do? $3500 opens up a lot of options if you are buy used.



3,500 was used actually. I think they run 4,500 new.
mainly into the city, which about 20-30 mins. But also would like to take longer trips 2+ hours.

Weird that the tw 200 goes only 65 mph. People say the honda grom tops out at 70 and thats only 125cc i think.




Are you looking for a dual sport or just a decent commuter bike? BTW top speed is mostly related to gearing though it does have its limits based on power. Even with a top speed of 65 you're not going to want to cruise at that speed because you'll be revving so high. You can always regear it to be at a lower rpm when cruising but doing that you lose accelleration.

If you're not going to be doing any offroading I'd avoid a dual sport, dualsports sacrafice a lot as far as on road comfort/capabilities.

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    #23078822 - 04/03/16 11:31 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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luvdemboomers said:
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Cowb0yNeal00 said:
Nice! I was just looking at a TW online today, they are like the cheapest dual sports out there as far as price, the one i saw was only like 3.5k.
Im thinking about getting one. But what about long trips? 2 plus hours? Is that feasible for the bike?




I'm not that familiar with that particular bike but being a 200cc mild mannered 4 stroke it will be pretty gutless and I doubt it will like doing highway speeds or long periods of time. That being said I'd imagine it is a pretty bulletproof engine that will run forever if it is anything like the TTR line.

What type of riding do you intend to do? $3500 opens up a lot of options if you are buy used.



3,500 was used actually. I think they run 4,500 new.
mainly into the city, which about 20-30 mins. But also would like to take longer trips 2+ hours.

Weird that the tw 200 goes only 65 mph. People say the honda grom tops out at 70 and thats only 125cc i think.




Are you looking for a dual sport or just a decent commuter bike? BTW top speed is mostly related to gearing though it does have its limits based on power. Even with a top speed of 65 you're not going to want to cruise at that speed because you'll be revving so high. You can always regear it to be at a lower rpm when cruising but doing that you lose accelleration.

If you're not going to be doing any offroading I'd avoid a dual sport, dualsports sacrafice a lot as far as on road comfort/capabilities.



I would like to a dual sport, about they are bit to expensive for me as of now. So ya probably a decent commuter bike. I like the honda cb 300 f.
Ok, I just heard such good stuff about the dual sports, but I really don't have anywhere off road in mind that I can ride.

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    #23078855 - 04/03/16 11:38 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Honda is quality shit.
Yamaha is quality shit.
Suzuki makes some dope bikes.
Triumph makes some hella dope bikes.

I'm partial to Harley and Triumph for road bikes. Honda and Yamaha for off road bikes. Triumph makes a hell of a good dual sport.




Hearing "quality" and "shit" in the same sentence is so confusing! :wtfsonic:

Honda makes a mean dirt bike Kawasakis too. Never owned a road bike.

And the alternative to "rice rockets" are "crouch rockets" and the proper term "street bikes".

They are very dangerous as they go so damn fast with a lot of low end power (high acceleration).

I would go with a road bike (anything that looks like a Harley). Much easier to ride, safer and more practical.

Street bikes are more agile thou, for those tight swervy roads. But overall, roadsters are better for beginnigers.


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    #23078865 - 04/03/16 11:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm not that familiar with that particular bike but being a 200cc mild mannered 4 stroke it will be pretty gutless and I doubt it will like doing highway speeds or long periods of time. That being said I'd imagine it is a pretty bulletproof engine that will run forever if it is anything like the TTR line.

What type of riding do you intend to do? $3500 opens up a lot of options if you are buy used.



3,500 was used actually. I think they run 4,500 new.
mainly into the city, which about 20-30 mins. But also would like to take longer trips 2  hours.

Weird that the tw 200 goes only 65 mph. People say the honda grom tops out at 70 and thats only 125cc i think.




Are you looking for a dual sport or just a decent commuter bike? BTW top speed is mostly related to gearing though it does have its limits based on power. Even with a top speed of 65 you're not going to want to cruise at that speed because you'll be revving so high. You can always regear it to be at a lower rpm when cruising but doing that you lose accelleration.

If you're not going to be doing any offroading I'd avoid a dual sport, dualsports sacrafice a lot as far as on road comfort/capabilities.



I would like to a dual sport, about they are bit to expensive for me as of now. So ya probably a decent commuter bike. I like the honda cb 300 f.
Ok, I just heard such good stuff about the dual sports, but I really don't have anywhere off road in mind that I can ride.




I'd just get a road bike then. Yeah the 300 should suit your needs a lot better than a dual sport. You'll have better handling and longer lasting tires as well as gearing and suspension that will be much better suited for road use. I might be a little biased as I just don't really like dual sports. Yeah they will go off and on road but they aren't particuarlly good at either. With offroad tires you're gonna wear them out on teh street and most on/offroad tires probably suck in the dirt. Then you have the added weight when offroad that sucks. I could maybe see the appeal if you live in the desert but here on the east coast a dual sport would be shit for the type of riding there is.

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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #23078943 - 04/03/16 12:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I've had a zx-6, and a gsxr 750, and I really miss riding.

I thought about getting a supermoto cause I'd have a lower chance of killing myself, but I think I should still wait.

jake, that cbr is sexy man. I never got a chance to ride one, but heard they were really nice.
I was a way bigger fan of my zx6 than the gsxr.


the ninja 250 is a great starter bike for anyone looking to get into it.
70mpg and they run forever. my buddy got so many miles out of his. it was crazy


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Re: Motorcycle Question [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #23079235 - 04/03/16 01:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, your probably right! safety first! Those dual sports do look a bit sketchy on the highway. Would you say a bike like the cb 300 f, could go on long distance trips like 2  hours? People use as a "commuter bike" but I don't always want to commute. lol.

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    #23079259 - 04/03/16 02:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

This is my bike

900 CC Honda Hornet



I think the 600 CC hornet would make a pretty decent first bike

The mechanical engineer of our sister company in France rides a Transalp everyday. When I visited last week the thing was about to hit a 100.000 km. He claims the only maintenance he does is oil changes and chain lubrication, I tend to belief him :thumbup:


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    #23079263 - 04/03/16 02:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah, your probably right! safety first! Those dual sports do look a bit sketchy on the highway. Would you say a bike like the cb 300 f, could go on long distance trips like 2  hours? People use as a "commuter bike" but I don't always want to commute. lol.




I don't have any really experience riding street bikes though, so I'm not completely sure. Based off what I've read the "sport"  are more comftorable than the supersports but less comftorable than cruiser style bikes (like the honda rebel). Maybe someone else can chime in.

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    #23081982 - 04/04/16 10:39 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I dont think cruiser style motorcycles are beginner friendly at all. Sure they are comfy but apart from looks thats about all they have going for them.

Naked type motorcycles are way better suited for urban riding. More maneuvarable, smaller, lighter, upright sitting position so more overview, less maintenance, the list goes on


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    #23082003 - 04/04/16 10:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

the handling on cruisers is just complete crap too.


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    #23082009 - 04/04/16 10:48 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Do you guys lane split often? One of things I love about my scooter is that i lane split so much in the city.
I know it's technically only legal in california, but do they actually enforce it?

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    #23082020 - 04/04/16 10:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Nah it's totally legal in CA.

I used to do it every time I rode.



The law states that if there's enough space to make another lane "safely" then it's legal to do so.



If a cop really really wanted to bust your ass, he could give you a ticket for splitting the carpool lane cause you cross one of the double yellows, but that's the safest place to split since you have that gap, so I don't think they ever would.


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    #23082199 - 04/04/16 11:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I used to lane split as it's safer the trusting the car behind you to not ram into your ass from behind, killing you. I don't ride anymore but when I see a motorcyclist at a red light waiting in line with cars instead of lane splitting I'm always like WTF are you doing man that's what bikes are for.

And on the freeway in heavy traffic, fucking forget about it there is no way I'm not splitting lanes. Yeah carpool is safest, and I would never be splitting at 60+ mph in dead stop traffic. 35 or so would give me a chance to break, etc should a dead stopped car pull on front of me.


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    #23082204 - 04/04/16 11:56 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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And on the freeway in heavy traffic, fucking forget about it there is no way I'm not splitting lanes. Yeah carpool is safest, and I would never be splitting at 60+ mph in dead stop traffic. 35 or so would give me a chance to break, etc should a dead stopped car pull on front of me.



this is exactly why i didn't buy another bike.

towards the end of my time riding, I was getting off on splitting tight gaps way too fast.

I was splitting a stopped freeway at like 70, minutes before I got hit and totaled my bike. I ended up getting side swiped later at an interchange, but I totally should have died while splitting. it was stupid.

there's times where it's way safer than staying in traffic like you mentioned, and there's times when it's a great way to die also.


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