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Amazon Shop: ½ Pint Jars, Brown Rice Flour, Paul Stamets, Rye Grain

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Shakeable no PC substrates (whole brown rice?)
    #2305788 - 02/05/04 05:41 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I'm trying to find a substrate that will colonize with a very low rate of contamination that can be boiled/steamed instead of PC'ed.

I know whole brown rice has been used. Has anybody here had any experience with it, or any other no PC shakeable substrate?


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Re: Shakeable no PC substrates (whole brown rice?) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2305866 - 02/05/04 05:58 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

heck yeah. I wrote a tek on it too.

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Re: Shakeable no PC substrates (whole brown rice?) [Re: simplemachine]
    #2305991 - 02/05/04 06:27 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Look into rye grass too... I'll see if I can get my friend to do some tests with it. Rye grass seems to be pretty contam resistant. Perhaps a soak, simmer and steam would work.

no pc gtg... sounds cool.


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Re: Shakeable no PC substrates (whole brown rice?) [Re: Rose]
    #2306020 - 02/05/04 06:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

sounds REALLY cool. let us know how that works out.


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Re: Shakeable no PC substrates (whole brown rice?) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2306037 - 02/05/04 06:47 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm trying to find a substrate that will colonize with a very low rate of contamination that can be boiled/steamed instead of PC'ed.

I know whole brown rice has been used. Has anybody here had any experience with it, or any other no PC shakeable substrate?




I'd give a few recommendations. First, are you wanting a "shakeable" substrate so that you can use bulk substrates? If so, you can just use regular PF Tek jars and break them up, and use the broken up cake as spawn.

Cracked corn when soaked, rinsed well, boiled, then rinsed again, is pretty good, but I use a PC. I'm not sure that any grain would work, really. Read TMC where stamets talks about the millions of lifeforms living on a single grain of, well, grain. I just don't think that steam alone would do it.

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Re: Shakeable no PC substrates (whole brown rice?) [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2306093 - 02/05/04 07:05 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I want it shakeable so it will colonise faster and only require one innoculation point per jar.


A PC only gets about 40 degrees hotter than steaming, BTW. Brown rice flour doesn't seem to need that extra boost. Why would whole brown rice be any different?


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Re: Shakeable no PC substrates (whole brown rice?) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2306152 - 02/05/04 07:24 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

rice sticks together. no shakey shakey.


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    #2306189 - 02/05/04 07:42 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Shakeable no PC substrates (whole brown rice?) [Re: OldSpice]
    #2306203 - 02/05/04 07:47 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

With Moe apparently evaporated, I'll have to carry that weight a long time.


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    #2306217 - 02/05/04 07:53 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Shakeable no PC substrates (whole brown rice?) [Re: OldSpice]
    #2306391 - 02/05/04 08:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Since I eat a lot of brown rice and it takes 25 mins to cook I ritualistically reduced the kitchen to smoke atleast once a fortnight.  Lately I have come across this fantastic technology called a timer, yet sometimes I still do not notice.

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Re: Shakeable no PC substrates (whole brown rice?) [Re: utopianglory]
    #2306443 - 02/05/04 09:13 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

What happens if you just soak brown rice instead of boiling it?


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    #2306491 - 02/05/04 09:29 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Shakeable no PC substrates (whole brown rice?) [Re: OldSpice]
    #2306501 - 02/05/04 09:32 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I got brown rice on my grocery list. Next time I go to town I'll pick some up.


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    #2306511 - 02/05/04 09:36 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Shakeable no PC substrates (whole brown rice?) [Re: OldSpice]
    #2306535 - 02/05/04 09:44 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Okay, but I'll need half a whore up front, and the other half when the job is done.


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Re: Shakeable no PC substrates (whole brown rice?) [Re: simplemachine]
    #2307534 - 02/06/04 03:59 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

How could grinding millet make it so that it doesn't need to be PC'd anymore?


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Re: Shakeable no PC substrates (whole brown rice?) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2307541 - 02/06/04 04:06 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

technically I don't know...I get millet flour and it works fine.


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Re: Shakeable no PC substrates (whole brown rice?) [Re: simplemachine]
    #2307544 - 02/06/04 04:08 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Where do you get it from?


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Re: Shakeable no PC substrates (whole brown rice?) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2307551 - 02/06/04 04:11 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I found it at winn-dixie, but the health food store has it too.


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