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    #23048061 - 03/26/16 12:56 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Pumpkin Seed Spawn Experiment [Re: Doxx]
    #23048064 - 03/26/16 12:58 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Pumpkin Seed Spawn Experiment [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #23048093 - 03/26/16 01:09 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Pumpkin Seed Spawn Experiment [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #23048097 - 03/26/16 01:11 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Never seen anything about pumpkin seeds or protein on here do you have any links as it sounds really interesting?

I haven't seen much about protein though. I only really heard of cellulose starch and sugar being a huge factor. 

Please definitely try this though and take lots of pictures even if it fails. Experiments are always appreciated!

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Re: Pumpkin Seed Spawn Experiment [Re: berserkbadger]
    #23048553 - 03/26/16 03:36 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Day One:  Hydrating the Pumpkin Seeds and Wild Bird Seed added to original post.

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Re: Pumpkin Seed Spawn Experiment [Re: Doxx]
    #23048887 - 03/26/16 05:34 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
    #23048952 - 03/26/16 05:51 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: jbaby007]
    #23049806 - 03/26/16 10:13 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: jbaby007]
    #23049814 - 03/26/16 10:15 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

The WBS is going to be a clear winner I bet. 

This is a cool novelty experiment!  It should be pointed out that there is another very important variable in these two materials;
the pumpkin seeds have a much higher amount of oil.  Another variable is that the two materials likely have different hydration properties.  You would have to weigh each material dry and then again after hydration to determine how much that is a factor.

It would be fun to see a side by side of 10 different spawn materials:
-Basmati rice
-Ramen noodles
-Kraft dinner
-WBS
-Rye
-Wheat
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-Grass Seed
-Spent brewers grains
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Thedillestpickle]
    #23049858 - 03/26/16 10:30 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

side by side would be great.although i dont think the grain woiuld be the main factor in the outcome of the results
either way its frujn to plat around man :thumbup: im sure you will get it to colonize. i would l like a nice edible substrate. i think myc taste good .Blending some colonized edible spawn  bags might be great for breakfast.

maybe not psilo species tho.

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: bw86]
    #23049870 - 03/26/16 10:33 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I love seeing unique stuff. Never would have thought of using pumpkin seeds in years.


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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #23049881 - 03/26/16 10:37 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:Dried pumpkin seeds have been used in the past, but the flesh of the pumpkin is. . .garbage.RR





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Lifenergy said:People wanting pics are in luck. I took these a couple days after the myc really started growing. The verm I added mostly stuck to the sie of the jar and obscure it some but you can see the myc okay. I will update it later with newer pics. One is the pumpkin seeds next to a WBS jar.



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this guy used them with the shell on

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: bw86]
    #23050106 - 03/26/16 11:56 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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The WBS is going to be a clear winner I bet. 

This is a cool novelty experiment!  It should be pointed out that there is another very important variable in these two materials;
the pumpkin seeds have a much higher amount of oil.  Another variable is that the two materials likely have different hydration properties.  You would have to weigh each material dry and then again after hydration to determine how much that is a factor.




I'm eager to see how the pumpkin seeds perform.

I didn't consider the oil content earlier, but then again I don't want to get too technical here. 

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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11371533/fpart/2/vc/1#11371533




This is the grow I referenced earlier.

He actually used seeds straight from the pumpkin!  Sounds like a lot of work huh?

I'm just trying to have a little fun, and learn something new.

Glad you guys are following! :thumbup:

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
    #23050246 - 03/27/16 01:37 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

:popcorn: bump. i wanna see some more results


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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Ziran] * 1
    #23050467 - 03/27/16 05:36 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Thedillestpickle]
    #23050718 - 03/27/16 08:31 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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This is a cool novelty experiment!
-Kraft dinner




This would be worth the PC cycle! Would you include the cheese stuff? Is properly made Kraft dinner already at field capacity? Lots of questions.


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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: NewZooReview]
    #23050744 - 03/27/16 08:41 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

i encourage the fun
cubess will grow in 99.9 % of the things you try atleat a mix of it. as long as there is vegetable cellulose for them to munch on. i have seen pasta grows aswell.

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: bw86]
    #23051592 - 03/27/16 01:11 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Day Two: Preparing, and Sterilizing the Spawn added to original post.

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
    #23053012 - 03/27/16 07:58 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Day Two: Inoculating the Spawn added to original post.

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
    #23060899 - 03/29/16 08:52 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: GreenRabbit]
    #23060922 - 03/29/16 08:56 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Other than the absurdly low nock points I imagine pumpkin seeds will do fine. I recommend a high spawn ratio.

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23061115 - 03/29/16 09:34 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

i wonder how it would perform if you ground it up into a meal? like flax seed meal. or even a powder and treated it like brf in pf cakes. wonder if its too sticky?


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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: eatyualive]
    #23061157 - 03/29/16 09:43 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Some really nice photographs, and a good write up. Got me hooked.

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: eatyualive]
    #23061166 - 03/29/16 09:46 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Other than the absurdly low nock points I imagine pumpkin seeds will do fine. I recommend a high spawn ratio.

:popcorn:




Yeah, I'll normally turn a pint into four 1 1/2 pints. That takes about 5 days to fully colonize rye berries or WBS.

This time it's a pint to eight 1 1/2 pints.  Both jars are doing great so far though. 

Update with pictures tomorrow.


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i wonder how it would perform if you ground it up into a meal? like flax seed meal. or even a powder and treated it like brf in pf cakes. wonder if its too sticky?




I think it would be too sticky.  Maybe pumpkin seeds with the shell still on them wouldn't get so mushy though. 

Might try that in the Fall for a seasonal grow.


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Some really nice photographs, and a good write up. Got me hooked.

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Thanks for the kind words!

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23061279 - 03/29/16 10:27 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

my only thought on this is how much oil the pumpkin seeds make after you PC it, Althought, you could always bring them to a low boil with them in some sort of deep fry basket to help seperate the oils from the seeds before you PC them.


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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Ziran]
    #23061679 - 03/30/16 12:33 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Low inoc points? Maybe seemingly at first?

But pumpkin seeds are (IME) thinner than my heirloom rye grain viewed on the side.

If I had a jar of rye and a jar of pumpkin seeds I would pour them out side by side right now and count the inoc points myself.

But I can't so :jah:

But seriously. I've been using heirloom varietal rye for a long time and even my verm-cased lazy ass grain trays have fruited "The most wicked cubes I ever tried man" (according to an acid head who probably has never been outside of oregon :rolleyes:)

I'm just saying I always wonder if there is a BEST grain for actives.

Not the most inoc points, not the fastest colonization, but the BEST grain for active species to metabolize some ACTIVES.

Will we ever really know? For all we know, pumpkin seed produces the most potent fruits known to man, 6 times that of any wheat-related germ known.

Not saying we should get our hopes up for pumpkin seed being the next new thing.

Just saying that the more time I spend in this hobby, the more I realize that I know NOTHING about it.


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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Ziran]
    #23061681 - 03/30/16 12:34 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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my only thought on this is how much oil the pumpkin seeds make after you PC it, Althought, you could always bring them to a low boil with them in some sort of deep fry basket to help seperate the oils from the seeds before you PC them.




Food worker?


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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #23064414 - 03/30/16 06:26 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Day Five: Three Days After Grain to Grain Transfer added to original post.

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #23064465 - 03/30/16 06:39 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Wait what? I used to work in the food industry, but people tend to be dicks to you in that industry so I left it after about 8 years in it lol.

edit: and also I was tired of being pissed off all the time because everyone who comes in tends to be pissed off. and one of the supervisors was one of those lifers that has worked their for 20 years or something stupid crazy like that, needless to say she was a total bitch to everyone except when she wanted something from you. So it was time to change it up.


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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Ziran]
    #23074822 - 04/02/16 10:42 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Day Five: Six Days After Grain to Grain Transfer added to original post.

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
    #23074904 - 04/02/16 11:11 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

nice! :thumbup:

looks like they are taking.

maybe after you soak the pumpkin seed, try laying the seeds out flat on a towel to soak up the extra water. so that the surface is dry before you pressure cook the seed. or maybe you don't need to soak them as long. and id possibly strain them out a bit longer if your not doing so in order to get the surface water off.  i use these type of mesh strainers with great success on wbs.



these type tend to hold the water in. and my grain comes out clumpier.



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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: eatyualive]
    #23074985 - 04/02/16 11:30 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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nice! :thumbup:

looks like they are taking.

maybe after you soak the pumpkin seed, try laying the seeds out flat on a towel to soak up the extra water. so that the surface is dry before you pressure cook the seed. or maybe you don't need to soak them as long. and id possibly strain them out a bit longer if your not doing so in order to get the surface water off.  i use these type of mesh strainers with great success on wbs.



these type tend to hold the water in. and my grain comes out clumpier.






Thanks buddy! The mycelium on the pumpkin seeds looks mighty healthy.

I don't think water on the surface during prep was the issue here.  I use that same type of strainer in fact.

These are the pumpkin seeds before they were loaded in to the jars.  I even tested them on a paper towel.



The pumpkin seeds were only too wet after coming out of the pressure cooker.

I think it has something to do with their ability to retain water during sterilization.

After a good shake with the grain to grain transfer, they seemed to soak the water back up.

:shrug:

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
    #23095952 - 04/08/16 05:43 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Bringing up irgon points. Why not poppies seeds

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: tump]
    #23095971 - 04/08/16 06:08 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

poppy seeds!  awesome idea!

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Thedillestpickle]
    #23103509 - 04/10/16 01:46 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Day Sixteen: Spawning Pumpkin Seed and Wild Bird Seed to Mini Monotubs
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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
    #23103573 - 04/10/16 02:05 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Awesome, I'm keeping an eye on this grow.

Those mini monos look pretty sweet, I like how deep you have the sub. I'm eager to see that first flush!

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: IveBeenRecycled]
    #23103624 - 04/10/16 02:20 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Awesome, I'm keeping an eye on this grow.

Those mini monos look pretty sweet, I like how deep you have the sub. I'm eager to see that first flush!

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Thank you!  It's around 3-4" of substrate with a 1/4" casing layer.  Not too deep!

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
    #23114894 - 04/13/16 09:22 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Combo the WBS with the pumpkin seeds. See what you get when you do that :laugh: more proteins + fast colonization?


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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Ziran]
    #23116384 - 04/14/16 09:29 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

let the fun begin :thumbup:


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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: eatyualive]
    #23135845 - 04/19/16 11:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: insanemike]
    #23138077 - 04/20/16 06:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Day Twenty Six: Fruiting Update added to original post.

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
    #23138155 - 04/20/16 06:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Kick ass pinset on the wbs tub, nice work :thumbup:

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #23138192 - 04/20/16 06:48 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Kick ass pinset on the wbs tub, nice work :thumbup:




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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23138304 - 04/20/16 07:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks fellas!  I'm pretty excited about that one. 

This is my first grow log, but I've had several grows before this. 

I get a little better each time.  Ended up with a decent isolate too.  Tons of clusters.

If only I could get some pins in this Pumpkin Seed tub. 

Same conditions :shrug:

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
    #23138380 - 04/20/16 08:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Different nutrition profile could mean delays in pin time. Remember the number pin tropisim is full colonization but that would more accurately be expressed as full colonization / sufficient consolidation.

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23145342 - 04/22/16 07:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Day Twenty Eight: Fruiting Update added to original post.

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23145347 - 04/22/16 07:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Different nutrition profile could mean delays in pin time. Remember the number pin tropisim is full colonization but that would more accurately be expressed as full colonization / sufficient consolidation.




Ah, that makes sense to me.  It shouldn't be too much longer!

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
    #23145430 - 04/22/16 08:34 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Nice pinset on the wbs tub.

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: insanemike]
    #23150076 - 04/24/16 12:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Day Twenty Nine: Fruiting Update added to original post.





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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
    #23166524 - 04/28/16 07:11 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

The experiment is finished! Thanks for checking out my work. :thumbup:

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
    #23166538 - 04/28/16 07:14 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

i enjoyed following along with this, man! i know ill never use any pumpkin seeds, now haha.. maybe one of the jars got a hidden contam or something and maybe that is why it performed to poorly, comparatively?

at any rate, this was very cool.


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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
    #23166552 - 04/28/16 07:16 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Bummer about the trich. That was probably what held up the pin times.

If you try this again  might i suggest a method like Muda bottles where the colony remains unbroken? Might help keep any latent bacteria at bay.

Regardless a worthy effort and I am sure you learned a few things from it.

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23166665 - 04/28/16 07:38 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Were the pumpkin seeds already shelled when you bought them?  I meant to ask if you went shelled vs unshelled for any reason.


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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
    #23169628 - 04/29/16 03:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Awesome, it's been fun following your progress. Thanks for posting! +5 :thumbup:


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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: mupetmower]
    #23171519 - 04/30/16 01:48 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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i enjoyed following along with this, man! i know ill never use any pumpkin seeds, now haha.. maybe one of the jars got a hidden contam or something and maybe that is why it performed to poorly, comparatively?

at any rate, this was very cool.




I really believe my jars were clean.  My cultures we clean, and the sterilization ten was solid.  The contamination didn't show up until after about ten days in fruiting.  I have had a couple mono tubs contam with trich in the same room a few months, and I think that might have something to do with it.

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Bummer about the trich. That was probably what held up the pin times.

If you try this again  might i suggest a method like Muda bottles where the colony remains unbroken? Might help keep any latent bacteria at bay.

Regardless a worthy effort and I am sure you learned a few things from it.

:raisemyglass:




I really didn't see the trich coming, but I guess nothing is ever guaranteed.

I certainly learned a lot, and I'll be sure to check out those Muda bottles!

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Were the pumpkin seeds already shelled when you bought them?  I meant to ask if you went shelled vs unshelled for any reason.




Unshelled was what was available "raw", so I gave those a shot.  I think having a shell might have helped with retaining moisture content though.


Thanks again for the love everyone! I hope to be working on something new soon. :rockon:

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: Doxx]
    #23171551 - 04/30/16 02:18 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Trich contamination in a monotub isn't always the result of trich in grain spawn. Bacteria can get by undetected in your grain spawn and can weaken the mushroom culture which can allow trich to get a foothold during fruiting. It's happened to me and numerous other cultivators on this site. It can be very frustrating. Everything will look good and fully colonize so you introduce fruiting and than BAM, trich shows its ugly face. The best way to combat this is to make sure your culture is uniform and not random or sparadic on agar first before inoculating grain.

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Re: Spawn Experiment: Pumpkin Seed vs Wild Bird Seed [Re: IveBeenRecycled]
    #23172403 - 04/30/16 11:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, thanks for posting, it is always interesting to see people try new things.

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