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Disney to ban smoking in all movies 2
#23047831 - 03/26/16 11:29 AM (8 years, 4 days ago) |
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/disney/11473326/Disney-bans-smoking-in-films.html
Posting from phone so i can't post full article. But i guess disney thinks that banning all fictional characters from smoking will prevent all the kids from smoking as well. They will allow it if say a movie stars a real historical figure with evidence that they smoke, but scenes involving fictional characters smoking will no longer be allowed.
This type of shit makes me sick personally. Don't forget disney owns idk how many other production companies that will be effected by this. So no death sticks in star wars, no smoking in marvel films etc.
Discuss cancerly.
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As a shareholder of Philip Morris USA, I disagree with this decision.
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Worst news I've heard this year.
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: abltsandwich]
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guess they figure the japanese can animate all the cool stuff and they can just be gay x) win win
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: abltsandwich]
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Next they should ban their child T.V. stars from dressing like little whores. Since they think kids are so impressionable.
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not as sick as those cancer sticks will make ya i bet!
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I think all the disney characters should smoke marlboros.
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: Apostle] 1
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Apostle said: Next they should ban their child T.V. stars from dressing like little whores. Since they think kids are so impressionable.
For real. I love how they act like kids only imitate the negative actions portrayed on film. Like smoking cantbe shown, yet they ignore the fact that maybe kids listen to their conscious more after seeing Pinocchio. No no, they only remember the smoking and drinking and gambling scene. Easily.the most terrifying scene in animated history.
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#23047886 - 03/26/16 11:46 AM (8 years, 4 days ago) |
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LuSiD enthusiast said: This type of shit makes me sick personally.
not as sick as those cancer sticks will make ya i bet!
Yo dawg, i only vape bro.(jk, well i primarily vape, when my rig is fucked up I'll smoke till it's fixed which is very rare.)
But i hate the word vape and the bulk of vape culture as well. So yeah, fuck this whole move on Disney's part.
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Disney also photoshopped the cigarettes out of Walt Disney's hands in a bunch of his pictures. Apparently he smoked a lot, which was the norm back then.
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Edit: double post. Stupid phone.
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did you ever stop to think that the ban on smoking doesn't include vaping?
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: shivas.wisdom] 1
#23047944 - 03/26/16 12:10 PM (8 years, 4 days ago) |
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i don't see what the big deal is. they're not including smoking in their movies anymore... ok. who cares? i feel they have a valid reason
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said: did you ever stop to think that the ban on smoking doesn't include vaping?
Yes, yes I did
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#23048088 - 03/26/16 01:08 PM (8 years, 4 days ago) |
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shivas.wisdom said: did you ever stop to think that the ban on smoking doesn't include vaping?
Did you read about this on reddit as well?
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Ahab McBathsalts said: As a shareholder of Philip Morris USA, I disagree with this decision.
I lol'd
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: Nifflerz] 2
#23048099 - 03/26/16 01:12 PM (8 years, 4 days ago) |
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By the way I always thought the coolest movie smoker was John McClane (Die Hard)
who's with me
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sanchothestoner said: i don't see what the big deal is. they're not including smoking in their movies anymore... ok. who cares? i feel they have a valid reason
That not putting smoking in a cartoon kids won't grow up to smoke themselves? If this is the case then where's the kids butchering dalmatians for coats if the were emulating cruella de'ville's actions.
I sure as hell know that when i first started smoking "101 Dalmatians"," Pinocchio" and the crows from dumbo were as far from my mimd as possible at that time.
There is no logic behind this line of thought whatsoever. The only reason it's so stupid is the implications it has on first amendment rights when it comes to producing kids cartoons and such.
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: Nifflerz]
#23048110 - 03/26/16 01:14 PM (8 years, 4 days ago) |
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Niffla said: By the way I always thought the coolest movie smoker was John McClane (Die Hard)
who's with me
Snake plissken from escape from ny and la. Hands down. Biggest badass in film of all time as well.
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shivas.wisdom said: did you ever stop to think that the ban on smoking doesn't include vaping?
Did you read about this on reddit as well?
nope but thanks for hammering home the point that i'm not some unique snowflake over here good morning to you too
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#23048179 - 03/26/16 01:41 PM (8 years, 4 days ago) |
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LuSiD enthusiast said:
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shivas.wisdom said: did you ever stop to think that the ban on smoking doesn't include vaping?
Did you read about this on reddit as well?
nope but thanks for hammering home the point that i'm not some unique snowflake over here good morning to you too
don't take it personal.
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sanchothestoner said: i don't see what the big deal is. they're not including smoking in their movies anymore... ok. who cares? i feel they have a valid reason
That not putting smoking in a cartoon kids won't grow up to smoke themselves? If this is the case then where's the kids butchering dalmatians for coats if the were emulating cruella de'ville's actions.
I sure as hell know that when i first started smoking "101 Dalmatians"," Pinocchio" and the crows from dumbo were as far from my mimd as possible at that time.
There is no logic behind this line of thought whatsoever. The only reason it's so stupid is the implications it has on first amendment rights when it comes to producing kids cartoons and such.
Slaughtering dogs for their fur isn't a social activity that leads to addiction. The two are incomparable.
If you can't piece together how a child watching cartoons over and over again just might lead to a lifelong subconscious impression on certain things deemed acceptable and normal, you're delusional.
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: PatrickKn]
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sanchothestoner said: i don't see what the big deal is. they're not including smoking in their movies anymore... ok. who cares? i feel they have a valid reason
That not putting smoking in a cartoon kids won't grow up to smoke themselves? If this is the case then where's the kids butchering dalmatians for coats if the were emulating cruella de'ville's actions.
I sure as hell know that when i first started smoking "101 Dalmatians"," Pinocchio" and the crows from dumbo were as far from my mimd as possible at that time.
There is no logic behind this line of thought whatsoever. The only reason it's so stupid is the implications it has on first amendment rights when it comes to producing kids cartoons and such.
Slaughtering dogs for their fur isn't a social activity that leads to addiction. The two are incomparable.
If you can't piece together how a child watching cartoons over and over again just might lead to a lifelong subconscious impression on certain things deemed acceptable and normal, you're delusional.
Idk, maybe i just wouldn't let my kids learn life lessons from cartoons? Not only that, but i have yet to hear a kid say "i smoked because the wacky cartoon guy did".
It makes no sense is illogical, and will not accomplish a fucking thing.
If you really want to discourage smoking to kids, how about not making the anti smokimg ads on tv so fucking unbearable? Seriously the "left swipe dat" campaign made non smokers look fucking retarded. Then you got this new ad showing people smoking a hookah partying it up, and having a good time followed by a card that says "hookah's are smoking too, don't do it".
Like seriously, i know tobacco companies have to dump money into these ads, but unless they have laws that prevent them from choosing what content is shown I'm convinced anti smoking campaigns are designed as reverse psychology to turn people onto smoking.
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Niffla said: By the way I always thought the coolest movie smoker was John McClane (Die Hard)
who's with me
Snake plissken from escape from ny and la. Hands down. Biggest badass in film of all time as well.
John McClane would fuck that dude up
And then drop a dope ass one liner right before dropping his ass off a 55 story building
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: PatrickKn] 1
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sanchothestoner said: i don't see what the big deal is. they're not including smoking in their movies anymore... ok. who cares? i feel they have a valid reason
That not putting smoking in a cartoon kids won't grow up to smoke themselves? If this is the case then where's the kids butchering dalmatians for coats if the were emulating cruella de'ville's actions.
I sure as hell know that when i first started smoking "101 Dalmatians"," Pinocchio" and the crows from dumbo were as far from my mimd as possible at that time.
There is no logic behind this line of thought whatsoever. The only reason it's so stupid is the implications it has on first amendment rights when it comes to producing kids cartoons and such.
Slaughtering dogs for their fur isn't a social activity that leads to addiction. The two are incomparable.
If you can't piece together how a child watching cartoons over and over again just might lead to a lifelong subconscious impression on certain things deemed acceptable and normal, you're delusional.
disney is mostly targeting younger audiences, so to take smoking out of their movies is their way of trying to help the smoking problem. they went back and edited their movies and took out the racism, even though disney may be this big ass corporation, it doesn't mean that they don't care for their demographic.
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The way you prevent kids from learning life lessons from a cartoon is by removing the cartoon from their experience. Otherwise they're learning life lessons from it subconsciously regardless of your wishes for their feeble child minds.
No kid says they smoke from a cartoon, because it's pretty much the most subconscious reinforcement that went into smoking. There are bigger factors that we tend to focus on when creating the narrative for why we do things.
People smoke because there is a culture of smoking, and these cartoon makers made a decision to remove their products from that equation in a way far less polarizing than the anti-smoking ads you are saying might be counter effective.
In this case, how can anyone possibly disagree with such a move? The only other point of view opposite of this is to keep tobacco in movies targeted towards children and teens, which makes for a resoundingly stupid argument.
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: PatrickKn]
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Just ban all Disney movies and close the theme parks and quit selling kids all their twisted animations and subliminal advertising. Fucking Disney is evil, Walt was full on free mason and a real dick too. Find someone who loved his second hand smoke and bossy ways. You won't. He was a dick. Current management is retarded as well and thinks ESPN is still a good investment. They are dicks too.
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: LunarEclipse]
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I get it as far as kids movies, like real kids movies adults wouldn't watch, but still
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: Ezuma]
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Ezuma said: I get it as far as kids movies, like real kids movies adults wouldn't watch, but still
Yet, these Disney fucks have no problem animating in chemtrails to brainwash the kids to thinking they are real clouds. No fucking problem with that one.
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: Ezuma]
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Ezuma said: I get it as far as kids movies, like real kids movies adults wouldn't watch, but still
Why limit it to movies only a child would watch? There no reason to have tobacco in movies that a kid and an adult would watch either.
Keep it to the movies outside this range. There is nothing a cigarette adds to a movie targeted at young audiences that can't be taken in a different direction.
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: LunarEclipse]
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Those Disney shows they air are such prolific trash.
My nieces are always watching that whack shit when I see them.
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Posting from phone so i can't post full article. But i guess disney thinks that banning all fictional characters from smoking will prevent all the kids from smoking as well. They will allow it if say a movie stars a real historical figure with evidence that they smoke, but scenes involving fictional characters smoking will no longer be allowed.
This type of shit makes me sick personally. Don't forget disney owns idk how many other production companies that will be effected by this. So no death sticks in star wars, no smoking in marvel films etc.
Discuss cancerly.
how many disney films over the last 20 years have featured people smoking and will they go back and edit the smoking out of al of their old films
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: PatrickKn]
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Why limit it to movies only a child would watch? There no reason to have tobacco in movies that a kid and an adult would watch either.
Keep it to the movies outside this range. There is nothing a cigarette adds to a movie targeted at young audiences that can't be taken in a different direction.
Cigarettes are a fact of life though, and certainly history. I'm not happy about misrepresenting things through fiction in general. It makes sense perhaps for younger kids, but at a certain point people need to have a sense fo the real world, a complex place with bigotry and rape and shitty people just as much as anything positive
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: LunarEclipse]
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Ezuma said: I get it as far as kids movies, like real kids movies adults wouldn't watch, but still
Yet, these Disney fucks have no problem animating in chemtrails to brainwash the kids to thinking they are real clouds. No fucking problem with that one.
Thank you, please don't call them chemtrails though as that only contributes to us being called tinfoil hat people. Geoengineering is what it's called and that term will yeild people many more credible research papers in an internet search.
I don't see how cutting smoking from film will help anything. Infulence in movies had no affect on me trying anything as a youngster, as well as most of the people I've ever known. It was usually people not talking about a substnace and considering it taboo that made me want to experience it for myself at some point.
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: Gr33nTree73]
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Tobacco built America.
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Niffla said: By the way I always thought the coolest movie smoker was John McClane (Die Hard)
who's with me
Snake plissken from escape from ny and la. Hands down. Biggest badass in film of all time as well.
John mcclane climbs in car to drive to flagpole to meet snake for the scheduled fight planned after school. Out of nowhere he crashes, he doesn't realize he'd been tranquilized before he climbed in the car. He veers off the road and dies an anti climatic death.
Nobody fights snake. They just drop dead and never have a chance to see him.
Beats anyone, anytime.
I actually think these two would make the greatest vs. movie in cinematic history.
It would be a lot better than that bat v super trash i hear about.
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Posting from phone so i can't post full article. But i guess disney thinks that banning all fictional characters from smoking will prevent all the kids from smoking as well. They will allow it if say a movie stars a real historical figure with evidence that they smoke, but scenes involving fictional characters smoking will no longer be allowed.
This type of shit makes me sick personally. Don't forget disney owns idk how many other production companies that will be effected by this. So no death sticks in star wars, no smoking in marvel films etc.
Discuss cancerly.
how many disney films over the last 20 years have featured people smoking and will they go back and edit the smoking out of al of their old films
See i have no problem with the lack of smoking they've had recently, if it.doesn't happen in a movie whatever. My problem is i wonder if the next blu ray special release will have it "lucas'd" out. And when they do a new Pinocchio or 101 Dalmatians movie, will they completely change the appearance of the characters?
Cruella de'villes crazed glare just stood out to me so much more when she was going batshit on her hunter pipe(hunter s thompson cig holder) and pinnochio smoking more or less highlighted that smoking is a bad life choice. He traded being human for cheap thrills like getting drunk, smoking and gambling.
I don't honestly know if any of these examples really glamorize smoking, i guess the dad in 101 smoked, but i remember how.stressed he was in my kid.mind if anything it appeared as though that was making him stressed out.
Idk, i don't have a problem with them NOT having smoking moving forward, but them.making this whole.thing out of it just seems stupid to me. Just let smoking die and the kids who will do it are gonna do it regardless of anti smoke campaigns, what mommy and daddy tell them, and what the police officer in class tells them. People do what they want and that's the end of it.
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LuSiD enthusiast said: Posting from phone so i can't post full article. But i guess disney thinks that banning all fictional characters from smoking will prevent all the kids from smoking as well.
Nah, it's probably just cause Disney is sick of hearing parent complaints, and is trying to reduce them
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Niffla said: By the way I always thought the coolest movie smoker was John McClane (Die Hard)
who's with me
Snake plissken from escape from ny and la. Hands down. Biggest badass in film of all time as well.
John mcclane climbs in car to drive to flagpole to meet snake for the scheduled fight planned after school. Out of nowhere he crashes, he doesn't realize he'd been tranquilized before he climbed in the car. He veers off the road and dies an anti climatic death.
Nobody fights snake. They just drop dead and never have a chance to see him.
Beats anyone, anytime.
I actually think these two would make the greatest vs. movie in cinematic history.
It would be a lot better than that bat v super trash i hear about.
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Wait a minute....
Does Disney own Marvel Studios? for real?
I am glad they are banning cigs from movies. shits gross and impressionable.
I will agree with Niffila that it looks badass in Die Hard and other action movies like that.
But for "family" movies that Disney makes, a smoking ban seems uhhhh....reasonable?
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said: Wait a minute....
Does Disney own Marvel Studios? for real?
I am glad they are banning cigs from movies. shits gross and impressionable.
I will agree with Niffila that it looks badass in Die Hard and other action movies like that.
But for "family" movies that Disney makes, a smoking ban seems uhhhh....reasonable?
video games and movies must be why there's so many murders then
we should ban all the things
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: Prisoner#1]
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if product placement didn't work, why do companies spend all the money they do just for a 10sec shot of someone drinking pepsi or tying a pair of nikes?
incitement to murder is not the same as advertising a product
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said: if product placement didn't work, why do companies spend all the money they do just for a 10sec shot of someone drinking pepsi or tying a pair of nikes?
incitement to murder is not the same as advertising a product
you cant have it both ways, if product placement works so well then clearly rap music is what's driving black people to commit so much crime, after all, isnt the music generally about criminal activity and the next thing you know they're shooting up neighborhoods. dealing drugs and killing 'rivals', it's clearly no different than the video games, the GTA series as well as others show the james holmes and jared laughners that it's ok to shoot up crowds of innocents. instead of the 10 second shot of coca cola it's hours upon hours of killings
does product placement actually work, when was the last time you rushed from a theater to buy a BMW or a heiniken because james bond had them in the film, I can honestly say I've only ever owned 1 pair of nike in my life and movies and TV ads certainly didnt encourage me to buy them, I've never owned ray bans, I dont drink soft drinks so guess what, an unbranded cigarette in a movie isnt going to sway me to smoke
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Mass medias influence on kids is very complex and very messy. Its not as simple as "kid sees movie, sees actor smoke, then kid smokes".
There are countless factors and influences.
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: Prisoner#1]
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advertising (an umbrella that product placement falls under) most definitely gets results--you should read some of the old texts on propaghanda that exist, jacques ellul wrote a great one in 1962--what started as a war time social engineering tactic was increasingly coopted by ad men as the decades went on until you have the very well developed (but still not exact) science of manipulating peoples opinions and desires
does it works 100% of the time, no--does it work on 100% of the people, no--but it damn sure is successful enough that paying over $4million for 30seconds of air time during the superbowl is deemed a solid investment
as for the "having it both ways comment", you don't give me enough credit--i do believe that BET and MTV successfully advertise thug culture for their profit, but i see this more as helping to perpetuate a problem, rather than directly causing it
and though it is a little off topic, i also believe that video games can successfully train violent/antisocial behaviours--there is a reason the military is increasingly incorporating virtual simulators into training programs--but i don't necessarily believe that violent video games advertise violence in the same way, and to the same effect, as that which we see through advertising for clothes, cars, booze, or cigarettes--with the main difference being that the later hold societies acceptance, while the former are still very clearly held as illegal actions that have no place in the real world
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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When Pinocchio smoked his first cigar how he was coming across was'nt influencing children to smoke atall, it made me not wanto try it.
Fuck we are not advertising it all over billboards and tv saying its the best and so on, most people teach there kids its not good for your health and schools do the same...
kids know whats reality and whats a cartoon!?
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: Prisoner#1]
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LuSiD enthusiast said: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/disney/11473326/Disney-bans-smoking-in-films.html
Posting from phone so i can't post full article. But i guess disney thinks that banning all fictional characters from smoking will prevent all the kids from smoking as well. They will allow it if say a movie stars a real historical figure with evidence that they smoke, but scenes involving fictional characters smoking will no longer be allowed.
This type of shit makes me sick personally. Don't forget disney owns idk how many other production companies that will be effected by this. So no death sticks in star wars, no smoking in marvel films etc.
Discuss cancerly.
how many disney films over the last 20 years have featured people smoking and will they go back and edit the smoking out of al of their old films
There's nothing in the article indicating that they might plan to do that. From the first paragraph:
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Disney has announced that it is banning smoking in all of its PG 13-rated future productions, including Marvel, LucasFilm and Pixar films.
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: Nifflerz]
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Niffla said: By the way I always thought the coolest movie smoker was John McClane (Die Hard)
who's with me
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Here's the video for full effect.
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Niffla said: By the way I always thought the coolest movie smoker was John McClane (Die Hard)
who's with me
New idea, "disney casts all future smoking character's in nicholas cage's likeness, person or voice".
That imahe has me considering quitting smoking altogether.
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Sorry the Cage is too boss for you.
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That fucking theme tune is my gran,grandads door bell
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said: does it works 100% of the time, no--does it work on 100% of the people, no--but it damn sure is successful enough that paying over $4million for 30seconds of air time during the superbowl is deemed a solid investment
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as for the "having it both ways comment", you don't give me enough credit--i do believe that BET and MTV successfully advertise thug culture for their profit, but i see this more as helping to perpetuate a problem, rather than directly causing it
and though it is a little off topic, i also believe that video games can successfully train violent/antisocial behaviours--there is a reason the military is increasingly incorporating virtual simulators into training programs--but i don't necessarily believe that violent video games advertise violence in the same way, and to the same effect, as that which we see through advertising for clothes, cars, booze, or cigarettes--with the main difference being that the later hold societies acceptance, while the former are still very clearly held as illegal actions that have no place in the real world
so you're half assed conceding the argument while still denying that these games and videos could be a large part of the problem, somehow you say that seeing a coke delivery truck compels people to buy that brand, that a cigarette in a movie will encourage smoking among kids and teens but the violence in video games doesnt cause violence while rap videos on MTV and BET do... and all of this with no actual evidence
product placement is nothing more than advertising to keep the brand in the public eye just like the millions they spend on superbowl spots, the tens of millions they spend on placement in movies, the millions spent on other TV s spots and in print, the hundreds of millions spent on location advertising such as coke/pepsi vending machines and in store displays and packaging, advertising does work but does it work without the brand association? does it work without the constant bombardment?
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: Cujllickduo]
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Show them the vid, I'm sure they'll love it.
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Brilliant idea you gave me,going to stand at the top of the stairs and play it
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They're watching the new bond movie and are not interested...should of rang the door bell
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JustAnotherFreak said: They're watching the new bond movie and are not interested...should of rang the door bell
Heineken is the best pale lager on the planet... now I must go shoot people
smirnoff is the best vodka on the planet... now i must go shoot some people
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sanchothestoner said: i don't see what the big deal is. they're not including smoking in their movies anymore... ok. who cares? i feel they have a valid reason
Yea I was surprised to see people care about this. It means essentially nothing to me it's their empire they can do whatever the fuck they want and if they choose not to have their productions display smoking anymore they have every right to implement that change.
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: Zombi3]
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: Zombi3]
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I support this Dysney cig ban 100%
They are disgusting and have 0 redeeming qualities. It's rolled up shit. It's time for society to progress beyond that shit. I sincerely hope that one day, the only way to know about cigarettes will be through history books.
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I support people's right to do whatever they want which includes smoking but I too wish to see the day that smoking tobacco is no longer a common thing. It is such a hagardly gross habit.
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said: I support this Dysney cig ban 100%
They are disgusting and have 0 redeeming qualities.
the help to prevent parkinsons and they make you look cool
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It's rolled up shit.
no, it's tobacco, a naturally growing plant, just like marijuana
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It's time for society to progress beyond that shit. I sincerely hope that one day, the only way to know about cigarettes will be through history books.
say it liberal canadian, just say the words "think of the children"
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: Zombi3]
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Zombi3 said: I support people's right to do whatever they want which includes smoking but I too wish to see the day that smoking tobacco is no longer a common thing. It is such a hagardly gross habit.
it's currently 17% in the US, down from 20% just 7 years ago, tobacco use isnt as common as you may think
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You're correct, that is indeed not as common as I would have guessed.
My biggest distaste for tobacco comes from watching my best friend destroy his health with it. He smokes probably 2 packs a day and has done so for nearly 5 years. He looks like death and is losing teeth. Every morning he wakes up coughing so grotesquely it makes you cringe.. He's one of the most important people in my life and I'm beyond concerned for his long term health. It sucks watching him struggle cuz he's tried to quit half a dozen times and each failure ends him deeper into the addiction. It's hard for me to wrap my head around an addiction that strong, because even though I smoked for nearly 5 years at a pack a day myself I was able to quit cold turkey first attempt and never went back, I consider myself extremely lucky that quitting was so easy for me.
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Re: Disney to ban smoking in all movies [Re: Zombi3]
#23051787 - 03/27/16 01:56 PM (8 years, 3 days ago) |
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in the 60s, smoking in the US was around 45%, smoking used to be quite common
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say it liberal canadian, just say the words "think of the children"
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