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BePositive
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Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms
#23036999 - 03/23/16 10:31 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Start by saying thanks for all of the useful info to get me to this point. Research has gotten me here but without hands on advise I don't see how I can get a straight answer just by searching old threads. This is a standard 66qt mono, poly stuffed very light on top, tight on the bottom. I noticed that condensation stopped building up in the sides. I sprayed the walls like frank said but I will have to do this every day now. I turned the fan off but condensation is not reforming.
As you can see, the surface is not looking great. I have no idea what is going on, any insight will be appreciated. It's nice that I am getting shrooms though.
  
Any and all help is appreciated!
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: BePositive]
#23037001 - 03/23/16 10:32 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Definitely 100% sure that's contaminated, by what, I dunno, but that's not important.
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: Inocuole]
#23037008 - 03/23/16 10:34 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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What is important then? Can I salvage my babies?
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: BePositive]
#23037047 - 03/23/16 10:42 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well being that I can't identify it I can't say for sure what you should be doing. First instinct of mine would be to toss it, but as long as it doesn't produce any spores you could coax a flush out past it. Keep a sharp eye out for any colored spores appearing on the substrate. Looks like some kind of mold woven in with the mycelium. Maybe it's not that bad of a mold.
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: Inocuole]
#23037061 - 03/23/16 10:45 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Edit- I wouldn't really know...
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23037075 - 03/23/16 10:49 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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If I could get a first flush that would be so great. The mushrooms do seem to be retreating from the mold in question but a few are growing right ontop of it. So maybe it's not such a bad guy? Any photo examples of the colored spores I should look out for?
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: BePositive]
#23037105 - 03/23/16 10:58 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not really, there are millions of species of mold, anything that's not white could be mold spores, most likely to see green, pink, gray, purple, or black. Hell some mold spores could even be white technically, and it'd be hard as hell to pinpoint then. Blue is most often bruising and orange is usually metabolites but those colors of mold exist too.
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: Inocuole]
#23037122 - 03/23/16 11:03 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok. So i'm in for it if I start to see mold spores?
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: BePositive]
#23037134 - 03/23/16 11:06 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you visibly see any mold spores on the substrate there are already thousands of them in the air, so.. kind of a little bit yeah.
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: BePositive]
#23037139 - 03/23/16 11:08 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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*when* you start to see mold spores. Most substrates will get moldy eventually, even if they started out very healthy. When you add to that the fact that most contaminants open the door and weaken the mycelium enough to make it vulnerable to Trichoderma, mold is inevitable in your case. If this is your first tub and you don't have any fruits on hand, I'd still try to fruit it and keep a sharp eye out like Inoc says.
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: Psilicon]
#23037152 - 03/23/16 11:12 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sup van.
Yeah just try to get this one flush out and then toss it, there's no way it's gonna make it to flush 2, that downtime period between flushes will give the mold the perfect opportunity.
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: Inocuole]
#23037165 - 03/23/16 11:17 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes first psilocybe attempt. Nothing to show for a couple months of work except what is picture, I'm determined to get these bastards up and out and into a dehydrator.
If I give it a hard misting, and leave the thing closed for the remainder of fruiting can that help contain whatever mold spore might (will) eventually be flying around in there?
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: BePositive]
#23037196 - 03/23/16 11:27 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'd like to also add that my mono smells like fresh mushrooms, nothing rancid or anything about it if that helps at all.
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: BePositive]
#23037222 - 03/23/16 11:33 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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BePositive said: and into a dehydrator.

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BePositive said: If I give it a hard misting
Then you could potentially spread hydrophobic mold spores everywhere, if any exist. A mist could be good but, definitely not a hard one.
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BePositive said: I'd like to also add that my mono smells like fresh mushrooms, nothing rancid or anything about it if that helps at all.
Some molds don't smell strongly enough to overpower the mushroom smell. Don't let that fool you upfront.
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: Inocuole]
#23037420 - 03/23/16 12:23 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok. will give a light misting high above the tub until the bottles done, granted im not flooding the surface. Then I'm closing it up and not opening until I'm ready to harvest which I will be doing outside.
Maybe if I leave it in the garage I can still maintain it and mist when needed without fear of the spores? The garage is riddled with contamination anyway since it's open to outside.
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: BePositive]
#23038021 - 03/23/16 03:21 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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It looks like trich before it drops spores, do a search for it and you'll see what I mean. I was looking at a lot of pictures earlier that looked exactly like that.
Trich is white before it sporultates and then it turns green.
Unfortunately I'm pretty sure that's what you have going on in there, but I hope the best for you. Keep an eye on it and if you have any other tubs nearby it would be best to isolate that one just in case.
Good luck!
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: Myko Fanatikos]
#23038275 - 03/23/16 04:54 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Myko Fanatikos said: It looks like trich before it drops spores, do a search for it and you'll see what I mean. I was looking at a lot of pictures earlier that looked exactly like that.
Trich is white before it sporultates and then it turns green.
Unfortunately I'm pretty sure that's what you have going on in there, but I hope the best for you. Keep an eye on it and if you have any other tubs nearby it would be best to isolate that one just in case.
Good luck!
Can there be confirmation on this? That doesn't look like the trich I just had unless this is super developed. I feel like if his pictures are trich the tub would have greened out days ago.
This was my run in with the bastard a couple weeks back
 Turned green the day after that when I put it outside.
Also I feel like Inoc would have pointed this out right away instead of a mold.
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23038352 - 03/23/16 05:18 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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I can't confirm anything without a sample and a microscope.
I'm not saying it's 100% trich but the bright white blobish mold that stands out from the myc definitely "looks" like trich to me. I've never had to deal with in personally.
I only say that because just earlier today I was doing a lot of research on trich and how it looks beforet sporulates.
Innoc did say he was almost positive it was contamination, just that he wasn't sure what kind.
It's only my personal opinion, not a fact.we will surely all find out in the next couple days.
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: Myko Fanatikos]
#23038819 - 03/23/16 07:23 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah we will see I guess.. OPs gotta deliver though. Sorry to make an example of you're predicament. But it's for science, bruh.
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Re: Monotub looking very unhealthy. Still producing mushrooms [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23039177 - 03/23/16 08:59 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok I will keep it updated. Not opening the lid to take pictures though unless it get's to that point where I have to bring it outside.
Anyone else out there (with a certain level of confidence) see the issue at hand here?
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