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I feel compelled to bring this up.
    #2302229 - 02/04/04 06:53 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

What do you think would happen if the entire world had a BIG mushroom/LSD trip at the same time?


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: psyka]
    #2302247 - 02/04/04 06:57 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I often choose that scenario as one of my would-be wishes if I were offered three wishes from a Genie. :grin:



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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: psyka]
    #2302250 - 02/04/04 06:58 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Um, where to begin? Hundreds of thousands would die in car wrecks; toddlers would drown in backyard pools; radio stations would play The Grateful Dead nonstop, Bush would admit he lied about WMD...


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: Swami]
    #2302254 - 02/04/04 06:59 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

and lastly, the world would ascend into the 5th dimension


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: Shroomism]
    #2302269 - 02/04/04 07:01 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

That's a little unrealistic isn't it?

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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: castaway]
    #2302276 - 02/04/04 07:05 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe he meant we would listen to "The Fifth Dimension". You know, "Dawning of the Age of Aquarius"...


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: castaway]
    #2302281 - 02/04/04 07:07 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

depends on your definition of reality


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: Swami]
    #2302293 - 02/04/04 07:09 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Swami:

No offense, but people will die. Do you think 10 years after such an event happened it was beneficial to positive progression or a needless event that lead us to the same place where we were before?

I value your comments more than you'll know, and yes I have thought that people would die from such an event...and it is horrible (I have felt those heavy negative feelings of losing someone whom you are close to). But, I believe the good would far outweigh the bad in this situation. Instead of stating the obvious facts, I'm interested to hear how your imagination weaves.

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Swami said:
radio stations would play The Grateful Dead nonstop...




Man! The Grateful Dead do suck!


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: psyka]
    #2302303 - 02/04/04 07:12 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I believe such an event would lead to a breakdown of the political infrastructure, an opening of borders as we drop our weapons and embrace humanity.


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: Swami]
    #2302307 - 02/04/04 07:12 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Easy there, Swami...


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: psyka]
    #2302313 - 02/04/04 07:14 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I am not going to state the obvious. Of course people will die. However, I am going to use my personal experiences to answer. I believe people's minds will open. New ideas and friends will be made. People will see the world for what it is, a beautiful gift and perhaps treat her a little better. We will all know that in the grand scheme of things, we are all tiny and insignificant; but we will realize that it is better to be tiny and insignificant together rather than apart.

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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: psyka]
    #2302343 - 02/04/04 07:22 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Dude, I'm gonna spiffy up your Avatar for you...if that's cool with you. It's a cool design that I like alot. But your avatar needs a lil 'something'. Unless you prefer a plain white background and all.

You can ask Shroomism if I'm 'any good'. :wink:

I'm outta here for the night. Peace yall.



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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #2302376 - 02/04/04 07:30 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Well the black and white have meaning in that avatar picture.

That is an old family crest that I've graciously borrowed. I interpret its meaning to form a union of mind, body, and soul circling around its source.

If you wish to make a graphic for me out of your own generosity than that would be great :laugh: Thank you very much!

Peace :smile:


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: psyka]
    #2302401 - 02/04/04 07:36 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

he does good work









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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: psyka]
    #2302403 - 02/04/04 07:37 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Note to Moderators: I need to start a Swami FAQ so I don't have to rehash old material...

As a member of the "Woodstock Generation", I heard some great music and it was a time of openess, yet where did the millions of LSD trips lead to? Other than the end of the Viet Nam War (a good thing IMHO), I am not sure that anyone can point to positive societal changes.

Our society is more violent and paranoid than ever before. No one could have imagined metal detectors in schools 30 years ago.

I think that for entheogens to have societal impact (as much as one who breaks all the rules hates to admit), they need to be used within a predetermined framework to give the trip some cohesion and focus. That is why organizations such as Santo Daime have positive results whereas generic raves just turn into a party with no paradigm shift.


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: Swami]
    #2302417 - 02/04/04 07:39 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

It should also be noted that (though I COULD be wrong here) only a small fraction of the population have acutally used LSD before...and I would be willing to bet it was no different for the "Woodstock Generation" even if the % for that generation is much higher than any other.


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: trendal]
    #2302422 - 02/04/04 07:40 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

there were still many "squares" during that time


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: trendal]
    #2302451 - 02/04/04 07:49 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, but if there was no noticeable effect from millions, there is no reason to believe billions would make it any different unless there was some common point of reference; i.e. a universal reason for this world-wide trip.

Hell, I have heard negative reports from one of the shroomery gatherings where people were fairly closeknit, yet still major frictions arose. People are still people and still have issues no matter what they imbibe.

Sorry, but there are no quick solutions. The city of New York (and elsewhere) pulled together after 911, now things are pretty much back to status quo as far as interpersonal relations.


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: Swami]
    #2302464 - 02/04/04 07:52 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Swami,
This is why your logic is so necessary. You are so right. But think about this now...everyone is tripping. The trip gradually gets stronger and stronger. It isnt instant; for mental preparation of the peak.

Tell me what you think would happen to the population as a whole.


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: Swami]
    #2302503 - 02/04/04 08:04 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't mean to imply that it would work...just that perhaps not enough people did for it to work :wink:

I, too, do not think that it would have any benefit in any case unless it was done with the proper preparation and with the proper intentions going into the trip.

No, there are no quick solutions.


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: psyka]
    #2302584 - 02/04/04 08:28 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Ive thought about this too. I can imagine watching TV and seeing the camera men, editors etc making more and more mistakes, I can imagine TV stations would go dead at some point, someone pressing the wong button.

Youd see your neigbours out on the street up to strange activities, you could join in with them. Bill from the house opposite would keep saying "whats going on?".

I think I would take a walk around and see who I come accros, or maybe stay indoors and keep away from the insanity.

I don't think everyone would be having spiritual expieriences, I can imagine lots of bad trips going on.


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: Sole_Worthy]
    #2302600 - 02/04/04 08:34 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I would be one of those who would be having a bad trip.  :grin:


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: Frog]
    #2302647 - 02/04/04 08:45 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I honestly believe if you would have an extremely great trip :smile: It wouldnt be expected. It would be gradual happiness at first (you know like when you first smoke pot) and euphoric goofiness. People would be more social and because EVERYONE was having the same gradual trip people would interact with each other in a positive way (have you ever felt the need to kill or do great harm to others while tripping?).

...As the night grows near it would be purely spiritual in nature (the dosage and high would be relatively constant and expirenced by all in this scenario) as we all want to calm down and listen to (or even make) music and close our eyes and explore our private Universe.

I think thats a pretty nice dream to have, wouldnt you agree?


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: psyka]
    #2302663 - 02/04/04 08:51 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I agree it's a nice dream. Fortunately, I would probably be able to enjoy the experience without shrooms, as I am almost positive I would have a panic attack.


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: Frog]
    #2302675 - 02/04/04 08:56 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I didnt mean to say it would be an actual dose of any drug. Just that everyone would expirence a gradual trip similiar to LSD or shrooms. As it was gradual I honestly dont think you would panic as people would embrace life as a child at that moment and that would support your bad trip tremendously. I believe that would effectively minimize most (if not all) bad trips. There are exceptions...I realize that. But I'm thinking of it as a whole.


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: psyka]
    #2302820 - 02/04/04 09:44 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Is this ot something close to the heart of new ageism? Like a universal change in conciosness?

Maybe people would slowly think they were going mad and panic would ensue. Although if we were all experiencing these changes then we could hold comfort in that.

perhaps schizophrenia is a gradual trip which goes "bad" because of the makeup of the individuals our society has created.


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: Sole_Worthy]
    #2302843 - 02/04/04 09:51 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Actually, Sole, I was just thinking that would be something cool. I was hoping to discuss what would happen to society in general, and not all of this stuff that is completely off topic.

Peace :smile:


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: psyka]
    #2302881 - 02/04/04 10:06 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I think it would all depends upon the speed of change really


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: psyka]
    #2302900 - 02/04/04 10:11 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

things would degenerate. quickly
we're talking about the MASSES here. right?

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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: psyka]
    #2303639 - 02/05/04 02:02 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I think if everybody were to consume VERY HIGH doses all at once, many of our man-made perpetual systems (governments, religions..) would totally fall apart and be subject to extreme modification.

I don't know if everything would stick afterwards though because people would look for comfort very quickly (many modern people are very used to and demanding of comfort - hell; including myself!), and comfort doesn't come from the unknown, untested, unexplored, untried realms


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: psyka]
    #2303829 - 02/05/04 05:18 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

somewhat related here:



what would happen if the entire world engaged in a session of contemplative meditiation (resonant frequency 7.38 Hz) ???


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: gnrm23]
    #2303842 - 02/05/04 05:43 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

"We'd have peace on earth and global communion"
-Bad Religion

Hey gnrm...
The Schumann resonance has been increasing. Apparently the second harmonic (~15Hz) is around 10% stonger than the fundamental.

I bet its that damn HAARP project!!


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: psyka]
    #2304015 - 02/05/04 08:28 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)











Ah, cool, there ya go! :grin: You dont hafta use em if you dont wanna. I just enjoy making cool-looking shtuff sometimes. :smile:



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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #2304312 - 02/05/04 10:10 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Very nice, Skorpivo. Someday, you will have to make an avatar for me.


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: Frog]
    #2304472 - 02/05/04 10:52 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Anytime :grin: I can do sigs too.

As long as you have SOME image or picture to work with or base it on, It's all good.



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    #2306180 - 02/05/04 05:37 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Those are all excellent, Skorpivo! It took like...5 minutes to decide which one I wanted to use. El Mucho la thanks :smile:

Peace.


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: psyka]
    #2306183 - 02/05/04 05:39 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

No problemo bro. Anytime :grin:



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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: psyka]
    #2306192 - 02/05/04 05:43 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

The world as we currently believe it and see it to be would be unrecognizable at the end of the trip. That's what I think.

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    #2306218 - 02/05/04 05:53 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Is that a Zen Garden in your avatar? :smile:



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    #2306226 - 02/05/04 05:56 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

It's looking pretty zen from here :cool:


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    #2306230 - 02/05/04 05:59 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

It is indeed.  :tongue2:

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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: Shroomism]
    #2306232 - 02/05/04 05:59 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Ever since I bought this lil Mini-Zen Garden kit from Barnes and Nobles...which is basically a lil box with sand and a couple rocks with mini-wooden rake for creating lines with, I've been inspired to make my future-lawn, background or otherwise, to be one nice big zen garden thingy. Fuck cuttin Grass every week. :grin:



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    #2306242 - 02/05/04 06:03 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

hell yeah. sand and rocks and flowing formlessness


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    #2306251 - 02/05/04 06:07 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

hey, I bought that thing, too! It is VERY mini. I think the tiny rake is disproportionately large.

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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: Shroomism]
    #2306255 - 02/05/04 06:08 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

you're a Oneness believer, aren't you, I can tell.

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    #2306256 - 02/05/04 06:09 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

the oneness of all-that-is ?

You're damn straight


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: Shroomism]
    #2306268 - 02/05/04 06:13 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

see, you're just another state of "me". That's how I was able to answer my (own) question. Hello there, me, how ya doin?

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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: MrGrib]
    #2306278 - 02/05/04 06:16 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Pretty good, how bout yourself?  :wink:


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: MrGrib]
    #2306284 - 02/05/04 06:18 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

You're doing quite well. How am I over there? Fine thanks

Good to see we are experiencing this multifacted reality with such great precision. Hope your path of evolution is progressing well as mine is. But I don't need to ask, we already know.

Namaste


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: psyka]
    #2306288 - 02/05/04 06:19 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Oh yes...lets put this thread back on topic.

Swami...I'm requesting a response from you. On page 1 you'll find my unanswered request specifically to you. If you truly do not wish to answer, that is ok too; I wont be offended.


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: MrGrib]
    #2306299 - 02/05/04 06:23 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I'm curious, what state of mind am I to you?

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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #2306304 - 02/05/04 06:25 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

You're my dark side

Now be quiet and get back into my collective unconscious before my sifu arrives


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #2306309 - 02/05/04 06:26 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

If you need to ask, then you are not in harmony.  :crazy: :grin:

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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: MrGrib]
    #2306314 - 02/05/04 06:28 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Or perhaps I already know, yet only seek validation, yes? :wink: :grin:



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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #2306321 - 02/05/04 06:31 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

You guys suck :frown: I was hoping for a collaboration of imagination in this thread and I FAILED MISERABLY! Thanks, assholes >:|

*shoots self in the face*
LOL j/k

Peace :smile:


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Re: I feel compelled to bring this up. [Re: Shroomism]
    #2306340 - 02/05/04 06:38 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Join.....



THE DARK SIDE... :devil:

Succumb to the Forces...of Darknesssss....

We will rule the worl---aw shit, I gotta go, my mommy says it's past my bedtime.

We'll do this Dark Side Shit later on, damnit.



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