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Re: Invitro Grass Seed TEK – A powerful single-step grow method for beginners and beyond [Re: attfalt]
    #22995598 - 03/11/16 10:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Hey guys, I'm planning on trying this with ryegrass seed. The cheapest ryegrass seed I could find at the moment says it is mixed with primarily ryegrass but with a small amount of bluegrass seed in it. Will that seed mix work for this tek? Thanks!

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Re: Invitro Grass Seed TEK – A powerful single-step grow method for beginners and beyond [Re: Mister X]
    #22996325 - 03/11/16 03:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah that will be fine.  Just make sure it isn't coated in fungicide.  If you have or want to use another grain, there are many others available for cheap and easy casings to use such as straight verm and straight coir that have sub-retard level preps.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...

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Re: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method [Re: Violet]
    #22996759 - 03/11/16 05:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

WOW :-) What a cool post, thank you!

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Re: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method [Re: fdfjhf]
    #23008694 - 03/15/16 08:34 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Just noticing Violet has some interesting teks.

This would be a good fast way to obtain fruiting genetics to expand from MS to LC.

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Re: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method [Re: Thedillestpickle]
    #23020321 - 03/18/16 12:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What did I do wrong here? All but one of my PP5s came out of the canner looking like this. I made sure they weren't touching the sides or anything.


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Re: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method [Re: FriendlyFace]
    #23020416 - 03/18/16 01:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Uh... You sure they are PP5?

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Re: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method [Re: GreenRabbit]
    #23020492 - 03/18/16 01:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

That's what it says on the bottom :shrug:


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Re: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method [Re: FriendlyFace]
    #23020498 - 03/18/16 01:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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FriendlyFace said:
What did I do wrong here? All but one of my PP5s came out of the canner looking like this. I made sure they weren't touching the sides or anything.





is there a hole in the lid? if not, did you loosen the lid before the PC process? Those plastic jars are airtight from the manufacturer. Your jars must be able to vent during the PC process, so this is likely a result of air-tight jars being PCed.

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Re: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23020513 - 03/18/16 01:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I only had the lids maybe 1/3 of the way screwed on. It seems like they may pretty much airtight if the threads are locked at all though. I guess I'll need a hole if I use these again.


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Re: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method [Re: FriendlyFace]
    #23020556 - 03/18/16 02:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Well from my own experience, I've never had a jar with a filtered lid warp like that. The only time I have had one warp like that, was when I tried cooking a chicken breast in one with an unmodified lid.

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Re: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23020566 - 03/18/16 02:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Alright thanks. I'll try again sometime this week. I may be able to free up some ziplocs and just use those.


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Re: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method [Re: FriendlyFace]
    #23020918 - 03/18/16 04:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

That is surprising to see.  Was it a ziplock brand PP5?

I tried screwing one on really really tight when I PC'd mine and it warped a bit but not quite that much.  actually most of them did warp, but I had the lids "loosely snug".  I will go unscrew them more next time.

I suspect that it may have cooled too quickly.  Did you take the lid off the PC before letting it cool a few hours?

I think if the lid is only slightly unscrewed it can still get sucked down and create a vacuum, but if the threads physically hold the lid off the rim just slightly then this can't happen.

Edited by Thedillestpickle (03/18/16 04:14 PM)

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Re: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23021186 - 03/18/16 05:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Munchauzen said:
Well from my own experience, I've never had a jar with a filtered lid warp like that. The only time I have had one warp like that, was when I tried cooking a chicken breast in one with an unmodified lid.




...why? I know you can cook food in them and everything, but what were you going for?

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Re: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23021197 - 03/18/16 06:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

braised chicken breast:tongue:

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Re: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23021203 - 03/18/16 06:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I feel like it would just come out...soggy? I'm not sure, but I like chicken to have a nice crispy outside. Have you done it successfully?
The idea is just so strange to me. My mom makes a lot of curries and lentils and potato things in her small PC (that I used to use, could only fit 1 pint and 1 quart jar into it.

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Re: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23021215 - 03/18/16 06:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I feel like it would just come out...soggy? I'm not sure, but I like chicken to have a nice crispy outside. Have you done it successfully?
The idea is just so strange to me. My mom makes a lot of curries and lentils and potato things in her small PC (that I used to use, could only fit 1 pint and 1 quart jar into it.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braising

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Braising (from the French word, “braiser”) is a combination-cooking method that uses both moist and dry heats: typically, the food is first seared at a high temperature, then finished in a covered pot at a lower temperature while sitting in some (variable) amount of liquid (which may also add flavor). Braising of meat is often referred to as pot roasting, though some authors make a distinction between the two methods, based on whether additional liquid is added.[1][2]




braising takes 4+ hours at normal atmospheric pressure. if you put the meat in a PC at 15psi, it takes like an hour.

yes, I've braised tons of things in mason jars. its a very common practice. think Pot Roast.

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Re: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23021227 - 03/18/16 06:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Pot roast yes. Now everything makes sense. I had no idea you could do it in the PC, I've always used this big clay pot that goes in the oven for 4 hours. Also never done chicken.

Totally going to try it

How do you know when it's done? Since doing the stopcock conversion I find it nearly impossible to get it to stay at 15psi, it's either 17 or 21 depending

Edited by the_r3dz (03/18/16 06:12 PM)

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Re: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23021254 - 03/18/16 06:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

only way to know is trial and error. but generally 1 hour for a chicken breast and it falls apart if you just look at it. I've done ribs in bbq sauce as well, they took a bit longer. just google mason jar pressure cooker recipes. its great for making homemade canned soups you can take to work and shit

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Re: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23021280 - 03/18/16 06:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Munchauzen said:
only way to know is trial and error. but generally 1 hour for a chicken breast and it falls apart if you just look at it. I've done ribs in bbq sauce as well, they took a bit longer. just google mason jar pressure cooker recipes. its great for making homemade canned soups you can take to work and shit




My life just  :1up:

Awesome way to prep food.

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Re: PODS TEK – Invitro tek growing with BRF or Grass Seed: a simple, self-contained, single-step method [Re: Violet]
    #23041536 - 03/24/16 02:12 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Hello Everyone,
This is my first grow and my first post. I chose this method because it seems to be the easiest, and so far no contams.

I have a couple of questions on the grass seed prep. The original post didn't say anything about letting the grass seed sit in the containers for 24hrs before PC'ing and in later posts I'm not sure.

#22205349 - From Violet
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I say this because I boil my grass seed heavily for an undetermined amount of time, never "dry" the grains, and don't strain for a long time.  I just toss them until there is little to no dripping from the strainer and load it up.  Yet I seldom have problems.




#22022371 - From Violet
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Yeah, I've been seeing you saying that...  I don't ever have to dry my grains.  I toss them in a strainer, dropping it down then quickly throwing it back upwards to shake water out the bottom. I do this a few times, wait a few minutes then do it again, then whenever I feel like it I load it into the containers for the 24hr wait.


 

It looks like from the post above that you _do_ let it sit for 24 hours in the container is that correct?

I boiled my seed for 25mins, let it strain and then put it directly into the containers and PC'ed them. My grass seed looked wet, but it wasn't dripping much from the strainers.

I inoculated the containers with a spore syringe on 3/3, but the room they are in hovers in the high 60's, so it is still not consolidated. I'm guessing the extra water may slow it down as well. You can see from the picture below the condensation on the mycelium. You can't see from the picture, but it's still only about 70% colonized. Should I shake the containers so the mycelium will spread more quickly?



I'm also now seeing some little tendrils from the mycellium poking up, I'm wondering if this is premature pinning because of the light in the room and the slow consolidation.  The room gets a lot of light from two windows.



Thanks for any help you can provide! This is my first post so please let me know if I can do anything better.

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