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DrMushroom
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i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? *DELETED*
#23011635 - 03/16/16 04:06 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: DrMushroom]
#23011642 - 03/16/16 04:17 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: DrMushroom]
#23011652 - 03/16/16 04:26 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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did you read the tek on making a sgfc?
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: Ziran]
#23011717 - 03/16/16 05:25 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The old thing i thought was a pin is no longer visible its been engulfed by fluff
Edited by DrMushroom (03/16/16 04:18 PM)
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: DrMushroom]
#23011728 - 03/16/16 05:34 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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That is by no means a proper fruiting chamber. Bursts of air through a blower fan and filter? Perlite air conditioner? Ultrasonic nebulizer?
Forget all this stuff my friend. It is only going to hurt your grow, not help. You may think you understand the hows and whys of a fruiting chamber.... all new cultivators who design 'automated" fruiting chambers like this do, but from the parts you listed you clearly do not.
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: mushpunx]
#23011831 - 03/16/16 06:53 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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peltier, not perlite. Also the alternative to a fan would be taking the lid off and waving it around. Or putting the grow chamber in a room with circulation maybe.
As an engineer i am quite confident in my abilities to engineer something. Temperature control is out of necessity to either buffer the frequent extremes i get in my location, or to accommodate for any special mushrooms or plants (seedlings) that cant handle the extremes of near zero to 40 celcius, sometimes in the same day.
the grow chamber isnt purely for mushrooms. I wouldnt even call it a grow chamber, i dont know the right word for it but it would moreso relate to the climate/environmental controls. Its quite frustrating trying to germinate cold weather plants in the tropics and then failing.
Plus i want to keep it insect free.
But i do understand what you mean, completely. slapping a bunch of things together randomly could easily have no effect or worse, especially without any sensors or control. And im not so arrogant as to assume that established successful methods will be innefective by comparison. Science and basic logic would dictate i try proven methods before experimentation, thats no reason to disregard a fun project.
So, back on topic? How do i fruit this thing?
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: DrMushroom]
#23011865 - 03/16/16 07:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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shot gun fruiting chamber. you take a large plastic tote drill 1/4 inch holes 2 inches apart from each other all around the entire tote like a grid. fill it with perlite up to the first two sets of holes fan and mist your cakes with the lid a few GOOD times a day, and you should see better results with your cakes.
Edited by 420_shroomer (03/16/16 07:13 AM)
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: DrMushroom]
#23011870 - 03/16/16 07:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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As an engineer you'll take 30 years of design innovation throw it out the window because you know better even though you didn't manage to grow a mushroom did you? But you know what they want so go ahead you'll definitely out build a SGFC or monotub because those designs have only had couple decades of R&D by 1000s of people over millions of man hours. But yea overcomplicated shit works half as well as our fully automated fruiting chambers (SGFC and mono)
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: 420_shroomer]
#23011872 - 03/16/16 07:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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don't worry about the perlite falling through the holes cause it will hold together cause you moisten it up first of course, but if water is dripping through your holes you made it too wet but youll be fine once it dries out abit.
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23011879 - 03/16/16 07:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Every engineering major comes here and does this I have to get to work(grow shrooms) and I know cars exist(fruiting chambers)
But even though I could get a car I'm going to put do it and build something that can get me to work better than a car.
Ends up building a three wheeled skateboard
Just saying maybe grow a couple ounces before trying to design something yourself.
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DrMushroom
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: DrMushroom]
#23011907 - 03/16/16 07:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: As an engineer you'll take 30 years of design innovation throw it .....*diarrhea noises*
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bodhisatta said: Every engineering major comes here and does this I have to.....*tthhhhhhbbbbppppppttttt*
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DrMushroom said: im not so arrogant as to assume that established successful methods will be innefective by comparison. Science and basic logic would dictate i try proven methods before experimentation
I thought i was pretty clear 
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DrMushroom said: the grow chamber isnt purely for mushrooms
So either, you didnt bother reading beyond the word "engineer", or your saying you dont beleive in plants and fungi that are sensitive to humidity, heat or cold....
Please ON TOPIC
The cake is still growing, what is happening, how do i get it to fruit, as in, stop growing aimlessly, and start pinning and growing fruits, fruit mode, do i leave it, do i do something to it? Last time i just waited for pinning in the jar which happened a bit over a week after total colonization. Its been much longer since then. My other cakes, do i wait for pinning or should i go ahead and birth, dunk, roll and put in a grow chamber also?
Please, no more opinions about things that do not presently exist. Or things you thought you read. I made a supplementary statement, not an argument, it does not require deliberation and does not merit ranting.
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: DrMushroom]
#23011984 - 03/16/16 08:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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DrMushroom said: peltier, not perlite. Also the alternative to a fan would be taking the lid off and waving it around. Or putting the grow chamber in a room with circulation maybe.
As an engineer i am quite confident in my abilities to engineer something. Temperature control is out of necessity to either buffer the frequent extremes i get in my location, or to accommodate for any special mushrooms or plants (seedlings) that cant handle the extremes of near zero to 40 celcius, sometimes in the same day.
the grow chamber isnt purely for mushrooms. I wouldnt even call it a grow chamber, i dont know the right word for it but it would moreso relate to the climate/environmental controls. Its quite frustrating trying to germinate cold weather plants in the tropics and then failing.
Plus i want to keep it insect free.
But i do understand what you mean, completely. slapping a bunch of things together randomly could easily have no effect or worse, especially without any sensors or control. And im not so arrogant as to assume that established successful methods will be innefective by comparison. Science and basic logic would dictate i try proven methods before experimentation, thats no reason to disregard a fun project.
So, back on topic? How do i fruit this thing?
lol and follow a tek......
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#23011995 - 03/16/16 08:29 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So, the cake is fine in a fruiting chamber, i should just wait then, treat it as a typical colonized cake?
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: DrMushroom] 2
#23012001 - 03/16/16 08:30 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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No start over and follow PF tek
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#23012004 - 03/16/16 08:30 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Everything bodhi said is 100%
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#23012028 - 03/16/16 08:43 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have been following PF tek completely.
only its looking strongly like i mistook a clump of mycelium that suddenly appeared for pinning (because it was sudden), so i birthed a jar before pinning was visible. however at the same time it looked mushroomy enough that i think there is a chance it was pinning, however the mycelium has expanded beyond that so i dont know whats going on. PF tek doesnt cover what to do if it starts pinning but stops after the dunk.
Edited by DrMushroom (03/16/16 08:54 AM)
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: MysticMoteToter] 1
#23012045 - 03/16/16 08:48 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You will just be wasting your time and money on that anyways. Most of us, once we moved past cakes either fruit in tubs or a greenhouse.
Tubs require no maitinence, no misting ... you just leave them to grow. The substrate is big enough to provide its own humidity Needs and polyfill stuffed into the holes adjust the air Exchange.
A greenhouse is the only time we might use a humidifyer ... and even then its just some shelving and a plastic tent covering them, and a humidifyer sitting at the bottom.
Fruiting is the easiest part of cultivation and it's relatively straightforward there's not much need to experiment. There are much more important and fun parts to invest your energy into!
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: DrMushroom] 1
#23012048 - 03/16/16 08:49 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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DrMushroom said: I have been following PF tek completely.
that cake and fc didnt look like the tek i know, follow steps 1-4 in this series (BRF/PF tek 1-4) EXACTLY how they do it.
 This was the result from my first ever grow just by copying the tek to a T. Once you get a few grows, you can start changing variables/experimenting. But until then just throw away the engineering degree (in your mind of course) and be like a babies brain.
Good luck brotha
edit: whoops, heres the vids, http://www.mushroomvideos.com/
Edited by MysticMoteToter (03/16/16 08:52 AM)
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: DrMushroom]
#23012051 - 03/16/16 08:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well thats good man then just use a SGFC type fruiting chamber. We see people waste money s nd time trying to build automated fruiting chambers all the time on this forum, were just trying to help yoi have a great grow!
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Re: i mistook lumpy mycelium on an old cake for pins, i dunked and rolled, what now? [Re: DrMushroom]
#23012269 - 03/16/16 10:13 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're not going to get far here without the ability to take constructive criticism and free advice. Everyone here tries to help the best they can and bodhi couldn't be more right. By all means try to reinvent the wheel but don't come crying when it doesn't work.
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